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dodger78
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7/14/2020  11:24 AM
@notinmyhouse - remember when we were discussing the topic of mortality of Covid-19?
These articles might be helpful or add a little extra to the perspective.
Especially since there have been many reports of "tampering" with the data - the Topic of increased pneunomia death (explicitely not labeled as Covid-19 deaths) has been discessed already.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768086
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

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7/14/2020  11:30 AM

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7/14/2020  12:13 PM
martin wrote:

Vietnam has a population of 95 million, shares a border with China and is one of the most densely populated countries in the world, and has had just 300 cases and no deaths, because they took quick, decisive action

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7/14/2020  3:08 PM
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1283112978435452928?s=20
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7/14/2020  8:39 PM
Huge and great news...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24F2SW
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7/14/2020  10:01 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Huge and great news...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24F2SW

"Volunteers who got two doses of the vaccine had high levels of virus-killing antibodies that exceeded the average levels seen in people who had recovered from COVID-19"

This is the kinda news I wanted to hear.

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7/14/2020  10:10 PM
Clean wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Huge and great news...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24F2SW

"Volunteers who got two doses of the vaccine had high levels of virus-killing antibodies that exceeded the average levels seen in people who had recovered from COVID-19"

This is the kinda news I wanted to hear.

Phase 3 starting July 27. FDA is expected to approve this. I’m guessing there is no bad news regarding Phase 2.

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7/15/2020  8:58 AM
What's another turd bomb when you've been doused with a constant flow of diarrhea the past three years.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/15/warnings-possible-cover-progress-trump-orders-hospitals-stop-sending-coronavirus

Warnings of Possible Cover-Up in Progress as Trump Orders Hospitals to Stop Sending Coronavirus Data to CDC

Public health experts are warning that coronavirus statistics will soon be newly vulnerable to political manipulation after the Trump administration ordered hospitals to send Covid-19 patient data directly to a Department of Health and Human Services system rather than the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which usually receives the information and releases it to the public.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that the HHS database now positioned to collect daily Covid-19 information from hospitals "is not open to the public, which could affect the work of scores of researchers, modelers, and health officials who rely on CDC data to make projections and crucial decisions."

"Centralizing control of all data under the umbrella of an inherently political apparatus is dangerous and breeds distrust."
—Dr. Nicole Lurie

"Health and Human Services said that going forward, hospitals should report detailed information on a daily basis directly to the new centralized system, which is managed by TeleTracking, a health data firm with headquarters in Pittsburgh," the Times noted.

The administration's new directive came in the form of a document (pdf) quietly posted online last week by HHS, an agency headed by former pharmaceutical executive and Trump appointee Alex Azar.

"As of July 15, 2020, hospitals should no longer report the Covid-19 information in this document to the National Healthcare Safety Network site," the directive states, referring to the CDC's data-gathering system.

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7/15/2020  9:55 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:What's another turd bomb when you've been doused with a constant flow of diarrhea the past three years.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/15/warnings-possible-cover-progress-trump-orders-hospitals-stop-sending-coronavirus

Warnings of Possible Cover-Up in Progress as Trump Orders Hospitals to Stop Sending Coronavirus Data to CDC

Public health experts are warning that coronavirus statistics will soon be newly vulnerable to political manipulation after the Trump administration ordered hospitals to send Covid-19 patient data directly to a Department of Health and Human Services system rather than the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which usually receives the information and releases it to the public.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that the HHS database now positioned to collect daily Covid-19 information from hospitals "is not open to the public, which could affect the work of scores of researchers, modelers, and health officials who rely on CDC data to make projections and crucial decisions."

"Centralizing control of all data under the umbrella of an inherently political apparatus is dangerous and breeds distrust."
—Dr. Nicole Lurie

"Health and Human Services said that going forward, hospitals should report detailed information on a daily basis directly to the new centralized system, which is managed by TeleTracking, a health data firm with headquarters in Pittsburgh," the Times noted.

The administration's new directive came in the form of a document (pdf) quietly posted online last week by HHS, an agency headed by former pharmaceutical executive and Trump appointee Alex Azar.

"As of July 15, 2020, hospitals should no longer report the Covid-19 information in this document to the National Healthcare Safety Network site," the directive states, referring to the CDC's data-gathering system.

All so he can look good enough to win the election. @$$hole.

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7/15/2020  10:08 AM
Latest data. We have a moderate spike in deaths but hopefully new cases are topping. Let's see over the next few weeks.
Hoping for the best. Stay well everyone.

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7/15/2020  10:15 AM
And there you have it, corona data will now be politicized:

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7/15/2020  10:27 AM
martin wrote:And there you have it, corona data will now be politicized:

This is the problem. Rather than doing things to control the virus, Trump is more worried about controlling the message.

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7/15/2020  10:29 AM
well this should be good for a few "I won't wear a mask" tantrum videos

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7/15/2020  10:39 AM
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7/15/2020  12:12 PM
NotInMyHouse wrote:Latest data. We have a moderate spike in deaths but hopefully new cases are topping. Let's see over the next few weeks.
Hoping for the best. Stay well everyone.

Were you asleep during March to June? Do you not understand how this thing works despite all the global data?

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7/15/2020  12:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2020  12:25 PM
martin wrote:

I laugh when Trump blames China, when a) he'll happily concealed and lie just as readily (if not more so) as they did, and b) even when all the facts were known he decided to not bother trying to do anything

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7/15/2020  1:14 PM
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NotInMyHouse wrote:Latest data. We have a moderate spike in deaths but hopefully new cases are topping. Let's see over the next few weeks.
Hoping for the best. Stay well everyone.

Were you asleep during March to June? Do you not understand how this thing works despite all the global data?

At least he's polite, lol. What this poster is missing, and some experts on TV, who are promoting the same happy talk. Is that it completely neglects to mention that this virus might not kill you. But it can leave you with permanent brain, heart, and lung damage, and it can be passed in the womb during pregnancy.

We are learning new ways every week, about the damage this virus can do to the human body. New cases of Covid should be treated with concern as well.

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7/15/2020  1:42 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NotInMyHouse wrote:Latest data. We have a moderate spike in deaths but hopefully new cases are topping. Let's see over the next few weeks.
Hoping for the best. Stay well everyone.

Were you asleep during March to June? Do you not understand how this thing works despite all the global data?

At least he's polite, lol. What this poster is missing, and some experts on TV, who are promoting the same happy talk. Is that it completely neglects to mention that this virus might not kill you. But it can leave you with permanent brain, heart, and lung damage, and it can be passed in the womb during pregnancy.

We are learning new ways every week, about the damage this virus can do to the human body. New cases of Covid should be treated with concern as well.

On top of that I would add the finical ruin of hospitals, state budgets, small business owners, families, individuals on top of the death and medical calamity that is happening.

States like TX and FL rely on sales taxes cause they don't have income taxes like other states, so that's why they want to keep business open. And when states don't have the tax money, teachers, fire fighters, gov't workers, etc. get laid off or programs are not funded.

In America, we got a piddly $1200 check. Other high income countries got 80% of their salaries (or some such number) as well as the social medicine, so not as much worries on those fronts.

Meanwhile, the cruise industry got bailed out. Yay

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