martin wrote:

wargames wrote:

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This is all just sickening

Read another story where the govn of MA had ordered a ton of PPE from China that was making its way thru port of NYC and was then seized by Fed govt, so they essentially got stolen. She ordered again and asked and used plane from Patriots owner to secure goods directly from a China.

And we all know from today’s press conference that when Fed seizes goods it redistributes them via private companies who then jack prices and start a bidding war amongst the states. And I gotta guess that the private companies are initially getting the goods because they curry favored - bribed via contributions - their way to that position

This **** is unreal

THREAD

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martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:My cousin passed away from COVID-19 yesterday. Died alone as no one is allowed to be at the hospital. There will be no wake or funeral. So when you look back at these type of decisions...

And yet i've read that Trumps approval rating is the highest it has been, and people are actually happy with his handling of the pandemic.

how old if you don't mind me asking

He was 59

Sorry to hear man, too young

martin wrote:

martin wrote:

wargames wrote:

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https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1246232950007627776

This is all just sickening

Read another story where the govn of MA had ordered a ton of PPE from China that was making its way thru port of NYC and was then seized by Fed govt, so they essentially got stolen. She ordered again and asked and used plane from Patriots owner to secure goods directly from a China.

And we all know from today’s press conference that when Fed seizes goods it redistributes them via private companies who then jack prices and start a bidding war amongst the states. And I gotta guess that the private companies are initially getting the goods because they curry favored - bribed via contributions - their way to that position

This **** is unreal

THREAD

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Hey look, another governor who wasn't able to ask the Federal govt for help and was left to his own devices

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https://twitter.com/MarkLandler/status/1246484545001619460

martin wrote:

wargames wrote:

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https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1246232950007627776

This is all just sickening

Read another story where the govn of MA had ordered a ton of PPE from China that was making its way thru port of NYC and was then seized by Fed govt, so they essentially got stolen. She ordered again and asked and used plane from Patriots owner to secure goods directly from a China.

And we all know from today’s press conference that when Fed seizes goods it redistributes them via private companies who then jack prices and start a bidding war amongst the states. And I gotta guess that the private companies are initially getting the goods because they curry favored - bribed via contributions - their way to that position

This **** is unreal

And here is a link

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GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Sorry NYNY,, these are terrible times for so many.
Until this hits red states it won’t resonate for a host of reasons. Change rarely comes unless pain is felt.
Obama said “there is consequences to elections”. I know Hilary was not a good candidate but Trump is a different kind of bad.
Sometimes you have to vote the lessor of two evils.

Who would give us the most effective, humane, response to this Pandemic, while keeping profiteers in check? Trump,Clinton,or Sanders? We were foisted with "two evils".

No doubt Bernie but we’d be safer with Hilary then the guy who is measuring his ratings during a national crisis. Hilary might have been arrogant and out of touch but she was not a tax dodging grifter promoting false narrative so grandiose it actually was effective. Failed casino’s, airline, steak company and university. Why is his tax returns so bad he can’t show them? His administration has been a shambles of idiocy and self preservation and obsession with Obama and popularity then humanistic governing.
History will judge him as it has others. I hope I survive long enough to see it. I fear the end of his administration won’t be the end of it.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Sorry NYNY,, these are terrible times for so many.
Until this hits red states it won’t resonate for a host of reasons. Change rarely comes unless pain is felt.
Obama said “there is consequences to elections”. I know Hilary was not a good candidate but Trump is a different kind of bad.
Sometimes you have to vote the lessor of two evils.

Who would give us the most effective, humane, response to this Pandemic, while keeping profiteers in check? Trump,Clinton,or Sanders? We were foisted with "two evils".

No doubt Bernie but we’d be safer with Hilary then the guy who is measuring his ratings during a national crisis. Hilary might have been arrogant and out of touch but she was not a tax dodging grifter promoting false narrative so grandiose it actually was effective. Failed casino’s, airline, steak company and university. Why is his tax returns so bad he can’t show them? His administration has been a shambles of idiocy and self preservation and obsession with Obama and popularity then humanistic governing.
History will judge him as it has others. I hope I survive long enough to see it. I fear the end of his administration won’t be the end of it.

You have to be real lazy to get outworked by the laziest president ever, good gravy. Had a feeling Trump would be a **** show, like you I grew up in the city in the 70s and 80s. On the other hand we have decades of "****-showery" from Clinton. The body count from the wars she supported and pushed hard for, are in the hundreds of thousands. The count of all the people she had locked up along with her husband, among others, is in the millions. As are the people who lost their homes or jobs through the economic, Wall Street friendly policies she advocated. There is friendly, and Friendly.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, there were countless "deaths of despair" from millions of Russians losing their jobs, not to mention their pride, self worth. In the wake of the great recession, Anerica experienced the same phenomenon. You can draw a line to this misery, right back to the the Clintons and "Triangulation". They got done what no Republican could even dream of, because once Dems really stood up for the little guy.

I live in a blue state. Clinton didnt need my vote. If I was in a state that could have gone either way. I honestly dont know what I would have done back then, knowing what I know about the good Senator.

And this is the exact reasoning we have the dumbest president around. The dumbest administration in history. Hundreds of thousands dying. Millions unemployed. Retirement money demolished. Sitting in our homes.

Let's repeat what you also should have known at the time: "Hilary might have been arrogant and out of touch but she was not a tax dodging grifter promoting false narrative so grandiose it actually was effective. Failed casino’s, airline, steak company and university. Why is his tax returns so bad he can’t show them? His administration has been a shambles of idiocy and self preservation and obsession with Obama and popularity then humanistic governing."

It's a toss up for you then and still now in retrospect?

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Sorry NYNY,, these are terrible times for so many.
Until this hits red states it won’t resonate for a host of reasons. Change rarely comes unless pain is felt.
Obama said “there is consequences to elections”. I know Hilary was not a good candidate but Trump is a different kind of bad.
Sometimes you have to vote the lessor of two evils.

Who would give us the most effective, humane, response to this Pandemic, while keeping profiteers in check? Trump,Clinton,or Sanders? We were foisted with "two evils".

No doubt Bernie but we’d be safer with Hilary then the guy who is measuring his ratings during a national crisis. Hilary might have been arrogant and out of touch but she was not a tax dodging grifter promoting false narrative so grandiose it actually was effective. Failed casino’s, airline, steak company and university. Why is his tax returns so bad he can’t show them? His administration has been a shambles of idiocy and self preservation and obsession with Obama and popularity then humanistic governing.
History will judge him as it has others. I hope I survive long enough to see it. I fear the end of his administration won’t be the end of it.

You have to be real lazy to get outworked by the laziest president ever, good gravy. Had a feeling Trump would be a **** show, like you I grew up in the city in the 70s and 80s. On the other hand we have decades of "****-showery" from Clinton. The body count from the wars she supported and pushed hard for, are in the hundreds of thousands. The count of all the people she had locked up along with her husband, among others, is in the millions. As are the people who lost their homes or jobs through the economic, Wall Street friendly policies she advocated. There is friendly, and Friendly.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, there were countless "deaths of despair" from millions of Russians losing their jobs, not to mention their pride, self worth. In the wake of the great recession, Anerica experienced the same phenomenon. You can draw a line to this misery, right back to the the Clintons and "Triangulation". They got done what no Republican could even dream of, because once Dems really stood up for the little guy.

I live in a blue state. Clinton didnt need my vote. If I was in a state that could have gone either way. I honestly dont know what I would have done back then, knowing what I know about the good Senator.

And this is the exact reasoning we have the dumbest president around. The dumbest administration in history. Hundreds of thousands dying. Millions unemployed. Retirement money demolished. Sitting in our homes.

Let's repeat what you also should have known at the time: "Hilary might have been arrogant and out of touch but she was not a tax dodging grifter promoting false narrative so grandiose it actually was effective. Failed casino’s, airline, steak company and university. Why is his tax returns so bad he can’t show them? His administration has been a shambles of idiocy and self preservation and obsession with Obama and popularity then humanistic governing."

It's a toss up for you then and still now in retrospect?

Read it again, I didnt say in retrospect. I said with the information I had at the time. Big difference. I am impressed that voting for a politician who had a large role in pushing for wars that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousand of human beings. Who helped make us the biggest jailer on earth. Who played an outsized role in the loss of millions of jobs, millions, of homes. Inflicting countless misery. Who has a track record in politics spanning decades of historically bad choices to be a "no brainer".

Not even a moments pause that all that death, destruction, Clinton had a large role in inflicting not just on Americans but the world would come back in a big way. Her choices have been not just bad for America, but historically bad. Not so easy for me to say "meh". Even with the prospect of somwone as scary as Trump becoming president. Clintons's record as a politcian was very long and very bloody.

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