newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

Name the 2 way players on the knicks?

actually, who in the NBA do you consider 2 way players?

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help the teams you are drafted or traded too.

I've read over and over and over again how Lavine is a super low IQ player, and every time I've watch that seems to play out. I'd pass on him over and over and over again

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help where you are drafted or traded too.

You would be paying max value for him. On a rebuilding Knicks team not close to competing. With the hope he could be that. Knicks throughout its history have asked players to be greater than what they really are.

Teams who really win land Lavine types at a lowered market rate for a team already built to win. Not as a centerpiece to jump start its franchise.

You give it a try for 2 years he under contract makeing 19.5 million both season and if doesn't work out then you let him go.

houston20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help where you are drafted or traded too.

You would be paying max value for him. On a rebuilding Knicks team not close to competing. With the hope he could be that. Knicks throughout its history have asked players to be greater than what they really are.

Teams who really win land Lavine types at a lowered market rate for a team already built to win. Not as a centerpiece to jump start its franchise.

You give it a try for 2 years he under contract makeing 19.5 million both season and if doesn't work out then you let him go.

What did the Knicks give up in order to try him out for 2 yrs?

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help where you are drafted or traded too.

You would be paying max value for him. On a rebuilding Knicks team not close to competing. With the hope he could be that. Knicks throughout its history have asked players to be greater than what they really are.

Teams who really win land Lavine types at a lowered market rate for a team already built to win. Not as a centerpiece to jump start its franchise.

You give it a try for 2 years he under contract makeing 19.5 million both season and if doesn't work out then you let him go.

What did the Knicks give up in order to try him out for 2 yrs?

I would give up 2 off dallas picks knox, frank, and ellington.

houston20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help where you are drafted or traded too.

You would be paying max value for him. On a rebuilding Knicks team not close to competing. With the hope he could be that. Knicks throughout its history have asked players to be greater than what they really are.

Teams who really win land Lavine types at a lowered market rate for a team already built to win. Not as a centerpiece to jump start its franchise.

You give it a try for 2 years he under contract makeing 19.5 million both season and if doesn't work out then you let him go.

What did the Knicks give up in order to try him out for 2 yrs?

I would give up 2 off dallas picks knox, frank, and ellington.

Ok now think about it. This is the type of move that puts your job at risk if it doesn't pan out. You are now going to want to capitalize on this investment in him. Moves will be geared to ensuring him a lot of help since is stats clearly don't produce playoff level wins. FA you are now forced to outbid for players that may not be worth THAT price but gotta ensure you capitalize on the assets given up for Lavine. At the draft you can't depend on a rookie coming in and producing at the level nessesary to ensure playoffs. So that may get moved as well for proven help which will also cost more in salary. The type of assets given, players obtained and salaries given could make or devestate the franchise. But the problem is you wouldn't be operating in position of strength. You would be operating to justify the trade for a player who hasn't proven to be worth it in term of putting your franchise in position to win.

houston20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

houston20 wrote:The kings buddy heild could ask for a trade this off season because he is coming off the bench and is not happy with his role plus the kings need to resign Bogdan Bogdanovic and dearron fox to contract extension this summer. Buddy heild will be making 26 million next year start of 2020/2021 season after that 2021/2022 season 24 million, 2022/2023 season 22 million and in 2023/2024 season 20 million. Buddy Hield might request a trade if he remains displeased with his role, per
@TheAthletic. Last thing about buddy heild he is averaging 20.4 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds on 43 percent and 38 percent from three. Zach livine could be available very upset with the bulls and could start from scratch. Zach lavine is not making too much 2 years 39 million that is about 19.5 million a season and could trade 2 dallas picks with knox,frank, and ellington for lavine. Lavine would be the perfect combo guard fit next to rj and randle he average 25 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.1 assist, on 44 percent shooting and 38 percent from three.

Neither of these guys are 2 way players. Both of them are players who have never been on winning teams as one of the better players on their team. Neither of them fit under the *Star* category. The trade you proposed for Lavine is waaaaaaaaaaaay to much to offer for him. They are good pieces to add as a 3rd/4th piece on a team in a trade where you have a contender and you can give up a draft pick and expiring salary for the extra fire power to put you over the edge. If AD were to magicaly sign as a FA then offering the lotto pick for Buddy straight up could be an angle as that would make sense looking to create a Buddy-Barrett-AD-Mitch combination or something to that nature.

These are the type of players, and depending on the amount of assets you give up. This is what gets you trapped in medocrity.

the bold. Nuff said!

I'd say yes to Lavine and no to Hield based on salary and ages. Zach is 24 and Buddy is already 27. Lavine is really good offensively and is getting better. I could see him being the second best scorer on a title team. I know Zach hasn't been on winning teams, but you can't help where you are drafted or traded too.

You would be paying max value for him. On a rebuilding Knicks team not close to competing. With the hope he could be that. Knicks throughout its history have asked players to be greater than what they really are.

Teams who really win land Lavine types at a lowered market rate for a team already built to win. Not as a centerpiece to jump start its franchise.

You give it a try for 2 years he under contract makeing 19.5 million both season and if doesn't work out then you let him go.

You never trade away picks and players under rookie contracts so that you can try out a max'ed player for a few seasons to see if you like him.

You trade away those types of assets with the full notion that that player is a gold piece to your playoff team going forward and that you can build around him.

Hield is a bit of an enigma. He can really shoot it!! Not worried about his age because i think we need a range of ages.

A lot would depend on whether we believed we had a CS which could unlock full potential, maximize his contribution. I do not think he's well suited for our current roster

I will admit that I have thought he could look good in a Knicks uniform but we'd need a team moving the ball and getting him lots of open looks.

i also think the Kings will keep him. but since they are the kings anything is possible