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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21338 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
8/4/2020 4:34 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:He's like a less a less athletic Giannis out there hahaha Seriously, his form on the 3 pointer looks better. The vision is there, he just needs to fill out. Based ONLY on Euroleague videos and without the benefits of hindsight, does he look like a better prospect than Dragan Bender or Mario Hezonja were? The dude is no Luka, that much is clear. |
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Knickfury11
Posts: 20290 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/19/2020 Member: #8856 United Kingdom |
8/4/2020 8:12 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:He's like a less a less athletic Giannis out there hahaha Seriously, his form on the 3 pointer looks better. The vision is there, he just needs to fill out. Finally some one else who calls it as they see it! I watched a lot of Deni Euro league games, he’s fools gold in my eyes. Don’t see his game or athleticism holding up in the NBA. An average NBA wing will murder him on D. Luka he ain’t. |
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Nalod
Posts: 68923 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/4/2020 10:04 AM LAST EDITED: 8/4/2020 10:13 AM
And Luka didn’t have his doubters either?
And with the benefit of hindsight you get to say “Wow, Luka should be gone higher!!!!” Who said this kid is “Luka”? Because he plays in Euro league? Cuz he is white? Cuz he is 19? And we should not bother because he is not Luka? Because there are no Israeli “stars” go compare him two? What did Manu look like at age 19? He did not come to NBA until age 25. Luka was a phenom of epic proportions and like Zion defies the eye test. Seemingly not athletic specimens standing still but on the court have an extra gear athletically and the vision to see the play before it happens. As for Dani, the young euro kids b-lining it to the NBA usually are suppressed because they are leaving. If this kid is doing this against competition greater than NCAA division one then it should be considered. ITs hard to evaluate these kids. Can only compare the white euros to other white euros? Not taking anyone off the table until we know were our lottery position will be and then I might think about moving up, or down. |
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martin
Posts: 69132 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/4/2020 1:26 PM
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Nalod
Posts: 68923 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/4/2020 2:17 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/rounds/_/season/2016
Siakim at 27, and Murray at 29!!! Most teams have more regrets then picks they can boast about. Its part of the process. Funny, Deni is listed 4th! Pro: Can shoot, is a teenager, is performing against men. Wiseman: Ball: Edwards: Guys named Tyrese: Okongwu: Obi Toppin: Killian Hayes: Pro: Solid experienced and NBA ready. 6-5, long....... Precious Achiuwa |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37761 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
8/4/2020 2:35 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:He's like a less a less athletic Giannis out there hahaha Seriously, his form on the 3 pointer looks better. The vision is there, he just needs to fill out. A few things: 1)Yeah, he is no Luka. You can say that about our entire roster and 99.9% of the league. No one, except maybe Deni's immediate family would make that comparison. That's like saying Vassel is no Kawhi or Wiseman is no Shaq. 2) You make a good point about highlights, but you can say that about nearly every college players highlights that we post. The fact that remains that the Israeli league is on par with, maybe even higher, than D1 basketball. 3) Context is important here. Mario and Dragan were still developmental projects in their European clubs. Look at their minutes. Guys like Luka and Saric were counted on to contribute at very young ages. You look at Deni's progression and you can the similarities. He got limited minutes in the beginning and flourished to the point where he was the a key contributor in a very good team. You can even see the improvements he made in terms of conditioning and the form of his jumpshot throughout the season. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
8/5/2020 10:12 AM
Obi, Vassell, Haliburton, and Ball are all CAA clients.
The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/5/2020 3:22 PM LAST EDITED: 8/5/2020 3:28 PM
Wow, beautiful defense |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/5/2020 4:00 PM
Obviously the main regret is taking Knox over SGA, but I’m also really regretting taking Knox over Mikal Bridges
Ack! We’re stupid, stupid, stupid! |
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Nalod
Posts: 68923 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/5/2020 8:12 PM
Fuck that, I’m wth Knox until he is banished! Tired of this hindsight lets pick a guy we regret every time they have a good game crap. Booker/Ayton are a young dynamic pair and the team is on the rise. If he was here in Knox’s place we’d be blasting him.
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mikesknicks
Posts: 20755 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2004 Member: #684 USA |
8/5/2020 8:22 PM
Nalod wrote:Fuck that, I’m wth Knox until he is banished! Tired of this hindsight lets pick a guy we regret every time they have a good game crap. Booker/Ayton are a young dynamic pair and the team is on the rise. If he was here in Knox’s place we’d be blasting him. I agree with the post 1000%. People always want what someone has! In the Knick of time.
Knickal for Your thoughts.
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jskinny35
Posts: 21466 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/27/2005 Member: #928 USA |
8/5/2020 8:53 PM
Many of us wanted the Knicks to draft Mikal over Knox (I for one)... remember all the discussion about Knox's low motor and him being a high risk/reward project... but he outplayed Miles Bridges (4 inches shorter) in a workout. Mikal was clearly the safer choice - long arms, plays defense, good shooter and high b-ball IQ. The Knicks swung for the fences much like the poker guy going all in with 3 chips remaining - just a bad move even if Knox turns it all around and suddenly becomes more than the lowest ranked player in the entire league.
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/6/2020 4:49 AM
jskinny35 wrote:Many of us wanted the Knicks to draft Mikal over Knox (I for one)... remember all the discussion about Knox's low motor and him being a high risk/reward project... but he outplayed Miles Bridges (4 inches shorter) in a workout. Mikal was clearly the safer choice - long arms, plays defense, good shooter and high b-ball IQ. The Knicks swung for the fences much like the poker guy going all in with 3 chips remaining - just a bad move even if Knox turns it all around and suddenly becomes more than the lowest ranked player in the entire league. In retrospect, knowing how lousy our player development has been, we should have gone for the safer option. You really couldn't have 'developed' Knox worse than we did. Give him inflated minutes, no direction and a green light for his whole first season, then yank back his role and minutes in the second- what other team does this?! Fingers crossed that Rose really establishes an elite player development unit so this sort of thing never happens again. |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/6/2020 4:53 AM
Great night for our Clips pick- Boston, Denver, OKC and Jazz all won- the standings are now:
Clips 45-22 |
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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21338 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
8/6/2020 5:17 AM
Oh yeah, a duo of KP and Mikal Bridges would have terrorized the entire league for years.
Come on, this is getting ridiculous. |
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Knixkik
Posts: 34932 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
8/6/2020 8:07 AM
wargames wrote:Obi, Vassell, Haliburton, and Ball are all CAA clients. Ball is with roc nation now. Otherwise that's right. |
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Knickfury11
Posts: 20290 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/19/2020 Member: #8856 United Kingdom |
8/6/2020 10:24 AM
smackeddog wrote: I’m high on Vassell too. Looks to have elite defence potential and plays with passion and high motor. Size and length decent, need to develop that 3ball. Would be very happy in landing him. |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/6/2020 2:55 PM
2 weeks to go!
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