BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:No analysis but the newest draftexpress mock picks is here. Scroll down to first reply.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/fxwkll/insider_request_givonyschmitz_upddated_60pick/

Draft express agreed with me for Pritchard at t 27. But if the mock came out like this I’d probably take Oturu who is the most under rated player in draft abd see if I can get Pritchard in the 30s

Paul Pierce — wiseman is pick 1. Compares him to a combination of kg/bosh/ad

I agree. No way I’d pass up

Allanfan20 wrote:Briggs, would you take Tre Jones with a later pick? I have always liked him.

That wouldn’t be my guy but if a team gets him at that second tier of draft slots it’s a very decent pick

BigDaddyG wrote:

wargames wrote:If we don’t take a PG with our own pick I feel pretty confident we’ll move up from the Clippers pick to grab a pg in the early 20’s. Attaching 5 mil and pick 27 should do it. Maybe we add a contract like Reggie Bullock to sweeten the offer.

That's Kira Lewis territory. I'd make that gamble. Would prefer that the Knicks keep Reggie tho.

smackeddog wrote:Can anyone settle this once and for all, who would be the better draftee for us: Killian Hayes or Tyrese Haliburton?

Vs

Who’s the better player? Who’s the better fit next to RJ?

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.266737865.63144318.1586878842-1784920337.1585930672

Dynamic left-handed shot maker who’s made rapid progress at age 18, though he’s raw in some technical areas.

SHADES OF: D’Angelo Russell, Manu Ginobili

PLUSES

Playmaking is his best skill. He can whip passes off the dribble with accuracy and hit cutters or rollers with precision.
Creative pick-and-roll facilitator. Despite his weak right hand, he gets where he wants and knows how to manipulate defenses to create passing angles and openings to score.
Fluid ball handler with the size to outmuscle smaller guards.
Excellent touch with his left hand finishing difficult floaters and runners, often after initiating contact.
Displays major potential as an off-the-dribble 3-point shooter with Hardenesque moves. Added a stepback and sidestep 3 to his arsenal and uses hesitations to get into pull-ups.
His catch-and-shoot shooting numbers are concerning, but he has smooth form, a soft touch inside, and a free throw percentage over 80—all of which suggest he’ll figure it out.
Tall, with a strong frame and long arms, making him a projectably versatile defender against guards and wings.
Active off-ball menace who could develop into a disruptive defensive helper.
MINUSES

Left-hand dominant: He might as well tie his right hand behind his back considering how little he uses it—there are some passes he can’t make since he relives on his left hand so much.
Limited athlete who lacks burst and bounce, which hinders his finishing ability, especially since he rarely uses his right hand.
Lacks an advanced handle. Picks up his dribble too often, which gets him into trouble. He’s shifty but doesn’t create a ton of separation and doesn’t string together advanced moves to break down defenses.
Experiences lapses on defense, missing rotations and falling out of his on-ball stance.
He needs to be more vocal as a lead guard to take better command of the team.

And Tyrese Haliburton at number 4:

Genius playmaker who can be a major building block of a contending team.
SHADES OF: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Sam Cassell

PLUSES

Always in control; he lacks lightning speed or explosiveness, but he uses subtle gear changes to throw defenders off balance, create room, and then strike.
Takes long strides on drives to the rim and displays good timing when gathering his dribble before using his length to score at the rim.
Creative playmaker with extraordinary vision and ambidextrous handles to deliver passes at all angles; he manipulates defenders with his eyes and dribble in the pick-and-roll, and has pinpoint accuracy on passes to rollers and shooters.
Good spot-up shooter with deep NBA range, despite his odd form.
A coach’s dream: He does all the little things on the court, from smart, timely defensive rotations to making rapid decisions to keep the offense flowing.
MINUSES

Lack of athleticism and burst limits his upside as a primary shot creator.
Generally avoids contact at the rim, which forces him to settle for tough layups or low-percentage floaters.
Made progress off the dribble as a sophomore, but still didn’t shoot well, and his stiff form raises concern.
Man-to-man defense: He stands in too much of an upright stance and moves laterally on his heels. Also takes poor angles fighting around screens.

And here's a longer article on why they have Hayes at number 1:

https://www.theringer.com/2020/4/15/21220970/nba-draft-killian-hayes-2020-top-prospect

smackeddog wrote:The Ringer have Killian Hayes at number 1:

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.266737865.63144318.1586878842-1784920337.1585930672

Dynamic left-handed shot maker who’s made rapid progress at age 18, though he’s raw in some technical areas.

SHADES OF: D’Angelo Russell, Manu Ginobili

PLUSES

Playmaking is his best skill. He can whip passes off the dribble with accuracy and hit cutters or rollers with precision.
Creative pick-and-roll facilitator. Despite his weak right hand, he gets where he wants and knows how to manipulate defenses to create passing angles and openings to score.
Fluid ball handler with the size to outmuscle smaller guards.
Excellent touch with his left hand finishing difficult floaters and runners, often after initiating contact.
Displays major potential as an off-the-dribble 3-point shooter with Hardenesque moves. Added a stepback and sidestep 3 to his arsenal and uses hesitations to get into pull-ups.
His catch-and-shoot shooting numbers are concerning, but he has smooth form, a soft touch inside, and a free throw percentage over 80—all of which suggest he’ll figure it out.
Tall, with a strong frame and long arms, making him a projectably versatile defender against guards and wings.
Active off-ball menace who could develop into a disruptive defensive helper.
MINUSES

Left-hand dominant: He might as well tie his right hand behind his back considering how little he uses it—there are some passes he can’t make since he relives on his left hand so much.
Limited athlete who lacks burst and bounce, which hinders his finishing ability, especially since he rarely uses his right hand.
Lacks an advanced handle. Picks up his dribble too often, which gets him into trouble. He’s shifty but doesn’t create a ton of separation and doesn’t string together advanced moves to break down defenses.
Experiences lapses on defense, missing rotations and falling out of his on-ball stance.
He needs to be more vocal as a lead guard to take better command of the team.

And Tyrese Haliburton at number 4:

Genius playmaker who can be a major building block of a contending team.
SHADES OF: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Sam Cassell

PLUSES

Always in control; he lacks lightning speed or explosiveness, but he uses subtle gear changes to throw defenders off balance, create room, and then strike.
Takes long strides on drives to the rim and displays good timing when gathering his dribble before using his length to score at the rim.
Creative playmaker with extraordinary vision and ambidextrous handles to deliver passes at all angles; he manipulates defenders with his eyes and dribble in the pick-and-roll, and has pinpoint accuracy on passes to rollers and shooters.
Good spot-up shooter with deep NBA range, despite his odd form.
A coach’s dream: He does all the little things on the court, from smart, timely defensive rotations to making rapid decisions to keep the offense flowing.
MINUSES

Lack of athleticism and burst limits his upside as a primary shot creator.
Generally avoids contact at the rim, which forces him to settle for tough layups or low-percentage floaters.
Made progress off the dribble as a sophomore, but still didn’t shoot well, and his stiff form raises concern.
Man-to-man defense: He stands in too much of an upright stance and moves laterally on his heels. Also takes poor angles fighting around screens.

And here's a longer article on why they have Hayes at number 1:

https://www.theringer.com/2020/4/15/21220970/nba-draft-killian-hayes-2020-top-prospect

Sam Cassell was a mid-range maestro and Shai was also a crafty shot maker inside the paint at Kentucky. I don't see shades of any of those guys in Haliburton. Someone made a Lonzo comp and I think that comparison is a bit closer, down to the weird Js. Lonzo's three point attempts per game and percentage are almost identical to what Haliburton shot. Lonzo shot 41% on 5.4 three points attempts a game while Haliburton shot about 42% on 5.6 attempts a game.