knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Fans like knicks1248 continue to blame FO for getting 7 2nd and 3rd tier FA for evaluation.
And this opinion is looking more dumb by day.
There is no other way to build the team when no top FA will join until team will be ready to break out.
We already see Morris, Payton, and Gibson gaining value on the team and for the trades.
Bullock will start his evaluation soon just in time for deadline.
We also already see that Portis and Ellington will not work for us.
But even they can be used as fillers. Their value is not much different from what it was last summer.
All-in-all it is shaping out to be a solid FA campaign considering our situation at a time.

Dude get a grip, you begging for attn like a little brat..I stated this roster had the potential to win 37 to 44 wins in this weak ass east..

I also agreed with the press conference that Mills did, because the team was playing well below their potential.

Your ass wanted to keep fiz for stability purposes (don't let me go pull your dumb comments about a new coach would do nothing different with this roster)

And 99.9% of fans want mills gone, it's just crazy how it took so many fans this long to realize he's trash..

If Knicks under Miller finish the season .500, Specifically under miller as coach do you still admonish the FO?
Im not saying the whole season at .500, just after Fiz was departed.
Now, for that to happen actually players both the FA's and the kids would have done good things. Does that realign the Knicks goals for the season as completed?
or, you don't care if knicks finish the season undefeated you still want the FO and coach removed?

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Fans like knicks1248 continue to blame FO for getting 7 2nd and 3rd tier FA for evaluation.
And this opinion is looking more dumb by day.
There is no other way to build the team when no top FA will join until team will be ready to break out.
We already see Morris, Payton, and Gibson gaining value on the team and for the trades.
Bullock will start his evaluation soon just in time for deadline.
We also already see that Portis and Ellington will not work for us.
But even they can be used as fillers. Their value is not much different from what it was last summer.
All-in-all it is shaping out to be a solid FA campaign considering our situation at a time.

Dude get a grip, you begging for attn like a little brat..I stated this roster had the potential to win 37 to 44 wins in this weak ass east..

I also agreed with the press conference that Mills did, because the team was playing well below their potential.

Your ass wanted to keep fiz for stability purposes (don't let me go pull your dumb comments about a new coach would do nothing different with this roster)

And 99.9% of fans want mills gone, it's just crazy how it took so many fans this long to realize he's trash..

If Knicks under Miller finish the season .500, Specifically under miller as coach do you still admonish the FO?
Im not saying the whole season at .500, just after Fiz was departed.
Now, for that to happen actually players both the FA's and the kids would have done good things. Does that realign the Knicks goals for the season as completed?
or, you don't care if knicks finish the season undefeated you still want the FO and coach removed?

I could careless who's running the front office as long as it's producing a winning environment.

Prior to the start of the I didn't knock mills on the roster he assembled, although I thought he could have made better moves.

It's a clear case of Mills not having the experience to hold that position..

Do you see the difference in Miller and Fizdale, miller sounds like a real coach, and he coaches like he knows what he wants, while fiz was all about trying something new almost every game

YOu think but what moves could have been made better?
We can always do better.
Fizdale was a mistake now corrected.
Funny, I think Mills has the experience. Question is does he learn? Does he learn from experience?

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Fans like knicks1248 continue to blame FO for getting 7 2nd and 3rd tier FA for evaluation.
And this opinion is looking more dumb by day.
There is no other way to build the team when no top FA will join until team will be ready to break out.
We already see Morris, Payton, and Gibson gaining value on the team and for the trades.
Bullock will start his evaluation soon just in time for deadline.
We also already see that Portis and Ellington will not work for us.
But even they can be used as fillers. Their value is not much different from what it was last summer.
All-in-all it is shaping out to be a solid FA campaign considering our situation at a time.

Dude get a grip, you begging for attn like a little brat..I stated this roster had the potential to win 37 to 44 wins in this weak ass east..

I also agreed with the press conference that Mills did, because the team was playing well below their potential.

Your ass wanted to keep fiz for stability purposes (don't let me go pull your dumb comments about a new coach would do nothing different with this roster)

And 99.9% of fans want mills gone, it's just crazy how it took so many fans this long to realize he's trash..

If Knicks under Miller finish the season .500, Specifically under miller as coach do you still admonish the FO?
Im not saying the whole season at .500, just after Fiz was departed.
Now, for that to happen actually players both the FA's and the kids would have done good things. Does that realign the Knicks goals for the season as completed?
or, you don't care if knicks finish the season undefeated you still want the FO and coach removed?

I could careless who's running the front office as long as it's producing a winning environment.

Prior to the start of the I didn't knock mills on the roster he assembled, although I thought he could have made better moves.

It's a clear case of Mills not having the experience to hold that position..

Do you see the difference in Miller and Fizdale, miller sounds like a real coach, and he coaches like he knows what he wants, while fiz was all about trying something new almost every game

YOu think but what moves could have been made better?
We can always do better.
Fizdale was a mistake now corrected.
Funny, I think Mills has the experience. Question is does he learn? Does he learn from experience?

oh really..

What other franchise has he build a roster with?

You both have the experience of hindsight.
What roster did you build that makes you think he could have done better?

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Fans like knicks1248 continue to blame FO for getting 7 2nd and 3rd tier FA for evaluation.
And this opinion is looking more dumb by day.
There is no other way to build the team when no top FA will join until team will be ready to break out.
We already see Morris, Payton, and Gibson gaining value on the team and for the trades.
Bullock will start his evaluation soon just in time for deadline.
We also already see that Portis and Ellington will not work for us.
But even they can be used as fillers. Their value is not much different from what it was last summer.
All-in-all it is shaping out to be a solid FA campaign considering our situation at a time.

Dude get a grip, you begging for attn like a little brat..I stated this roster had the potential to win 37 to 44 wins in this weak ass east..

I also agreed with the press conference that Mills did, because the team was playing well below their potential.

Your ass wanted to keep fiz for stability purposes (don't let me go pull your dumb comments about a new coach would do nothing different with this roster)

And 99.9% of fans want mills gone, it's just crazy how it took so many fans this long to realize he's trash..

If Knicks under Miller finish the season .500, Specifically under miller as coach do you still admonish the FO?
Im not saying the whole season at .500, just after Fiz was departed.
Now, for that to happen actually players both the FA's and the kids would have done good things. Does that realign the Knicks goals for the season as completed?
or, you don't care if knicks finish the season undefeated you still want the FO and coach removed?

I could careless who's running the front office as long as it's producing a winning environment.

Prior to the start of the I didn't knock mills on the roster he assembled, although I thought he could have made better moves.

It's a clear case of Mills not having the experience to hold that position..

Do you see the difference in Miller and Fizdale, miller sounds like a real coach, and he coaches like he knows what he wants, while fiz was all about trying something new almost every game

YOu think but what moves could have been made better?
We can always do better.
Fizdale was a mistake now corrected.
Funny, I think Mills has the experience. Question is does he learn? Does he learn from experience?

oh really..

What other franchise has he build a roster with?

You both have the experience of hindsight.
What roster did you build that makes you think he could have done better?

Mills has no track record that bespeaks of anything you could learn from. Unless "don't say 'get in the truck'" is a teachable moment.

Reality is Mills has nothing positive to reflect upon that he was directly responsible for. Unless spreadsheet management gets you to Ujiri level somehow.

Nalod big on Mills having nothing to little to do with the Phil era. Not much else to do but wait and see what happens now. Nobody to hide behind.

It's on Mills now.

Funny, in just few years Warkentein and Ujiri both win from Denver. I said previously Warkentein is still listed as on our staff. We had John Gabriel also on the payroll for years. It don't equate unless you have strong owner.
I supported Layden, Donnie, The Gruns: Wald and Feld!!!! And yes MIlls, Phils and Mills!!!!! I want knicks to succeed and know change is symptom of something bad happening. Thus, I'd rather something good instead!

arkrud wrote:Fans like knicks1248 continue to blame FO for getting 7 2nd and 3rd tier FA for evaluation.
And this opinion is looking more dumb by day.
There is no other way to build the team when no top FA will join until team will be ready to break out.
We already see Morris, Payton, and Gibson gaining value on the team and for the trades.
Bullock will start his evaluation soon just in time for deadline.
We also already see that Portis and Ellington will not work for us.
But even they can be used as fillers. Their value is not much different from what it was last summer.
Rangle is still a question. I think his value dropped a bit but he is not helpless.
He needed right coaching and PG and may be he get one in Miller and Payton.
All-in-all it is shaping out to be a solid FA campaign considering our situation at a time.

I happen to agree. The Knicks FO is loaded with talented individuals who were successful elsewhere and work hard here to improve the roster.

There's no magic touch. We still have the cap room from the Porzingis trades if we let the FA signings from last summer expire. We also have a couple of FRPs that have yet to play out.

More importantly we have a LOT of talented players who are a year or tow away from being NBA rock stars.

It snot a matter of patience, its a matter of enjoying the growing pains, ugly as they sometimes are.