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Sambakick
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3/5/2020 12:25 PM
March 1, 2020 07:16 PM
Mavericks' Kristaps Porzingis: Dominant display versus Minnesota
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knicks1248
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3/5/2020 12:45 PM
Sambakick wrote:March 1, 2020 07:16 PM
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fishmike
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3/5/2020 1:17 PM
this is mental masturbation. The only way the Knicks come out winners early on is if they hit a home run in FA, like sign KD+Kyrie and then we STILL would be looking bad. The question is whether or not the Knicks are able to move on and build a good team and then in retrospect how big a part of the guy we use these pick on end up being. As usual Knicks waited too long and worked from a position of weakness. Hopefully that ends
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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knicks1248
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3/5/2020 1:36 PM
fishmike wrote:this is mental masturbation. The only way the Knicks come out winners early on is if they hit a home run in FA, like sign KD+Kyrie and then we STILL would be looking bad. The question is whether or not the Knicks are able to move on and build a good team and then in retrospect how big a part of the guy we use these pick on end up being. As usual Knicks waited too long and worked from a position of weakness. Hopefully that ends Well Rose's profession is deal making.. ES
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Chandler
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3/5/2020 1:43 PM
with each passing day this trade looks more and more horrible. epic proportions
i'm now at the stage of wondering whether it's even humanly possible for Perry and/or Mills to have been this stupid. My latest conspiracy theory is that Dolan must have been involved and wanted KP banned akin to his impetuous nature with Oakley, Lee, multiple fans (5)(5)
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Nalod
Posts: 68760 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
3/5/2020 3:59 PM
If we kept him, he plays. No Doncic. Say he comes back and really its been a slow week to week improvement.
Remember the knee soreness he had? Stay with me, Then he comes back and lights it up. Great right? Oh, he was restricted last summer. We then have a hostile situation and a player that we told to go out and get a deal. Say he says F-it. I'll walk. So now your looking at KP playing and he walks this summer. YOu get nothing. Now you understand his leverage. There was a path to he walks with nothing. really you had before the trade deadline to make a deal. Not much leverage. im not defending FO, you just have to look at the facts that a great trade was never going to happen. Phil had the window to do that. Dolan nixed it. |
HofstraBBall
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3/5/2020 4:30 PM
fishmike wrote:this is mental masturbation. The only way the Knicks come out winners early on is if they hit a home run in FA, like sign KD+Kyrie and then we STILL would be looking bad. The question is whether or not the Knicks are able to move on and build a good team and then in retrospect how big a part of the guy we use these pick on end up being. As usual Knicks waited too long and worked from a position of weakness. Hopefully that ends Was that not what was promised? I remember going nuts when he was traded but everyone kept saying how it will be okay because we were guaranteed to sign big names. Now we are saying lets wait and see what we get in the draft and what that pick turns out to be in 5 years. I get the whole dwelling on the past but this is a thread dedicated to fans talking about their dislike for the trade. If this was an isolated incident fine, but one can understand fans feeling like the FO yet again. Btw, does anyone really know that Yanis was such a dick? I mean the guy had a very good rep as a player and we are taking who's word for it? Also, fair to say most would be looking out for their brothers best interest. Specially when dealing would such a high class organization that never lies. Not to mention that most franchise players probably have many quirks, sidekicks and dysfunctional family members tagging along making life difficult. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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fishmike
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3/5/2020 5:06 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Im def not saying lets wait and see... Im saying the trade sucked but whats the point? The only wait and see is hopefully this is just another slice of bad management that needed to be overcome. They have a decent starting point... in like year 4 or whatever.fishmike wrote:this is mental masturbation. The only way the Knicks come out winners early on is if they hit a home run in FA, like sign KD+Kyrie and then we STILL would be looking bad. The question is whether or not the Knicks are able to move on and build a good team and then in retrospect how big a part of the guy we use these pick on end up being. As usual Knicks waited too long and worked from a position of weakness. Hopefully that ends Im patient. Want to see it done the right way. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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CrushAlot
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3/5/2020 6:33 PM
knicks1248 wrote:One guy has played 25,000 minutes including playoffs, one guy has played 20,000 minutes including playoffs and one guy has played 7100 minutes in his career. KP is in his fourth season that he has actually got on the court and in his fifth season in the league. He has missed 157 games already in his career. George is in yr 10 and has missed 149 games. Lets see how this plays out with KP. He has had good stretches before. He has never sustained them.Sambakick wrote:March 1, 2020 07:16 PM I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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PassTheBall
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3/5/2020 7:09 PM
smackeddog wrote:As a side note, with a lineup of:
It would have been much better than what we have now. /PassTheBall
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PassTheBall
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3/5/2020 7:21 PM
They couldn’t sell Porzingis on the idea of playing with Zion, Morant or RJ as well.
Still can’t believe how much DSJ has regressed or just hasn’t progressed. Fizdale still needed to go though. So many what if’s but that trade will go down as one of the worst in NBA history. /PassTheBall
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nyknickzingis
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3/5/2020 8:57 PM
Sambakick wrote:GOD still can't play back-to-back. He is not a god. Knicks do not have anyone even remotely close to his level. Traded him away for literally nothing that will come close to him. It’s a bad trade. Does not mean the Knicks will always be bad because of the trade. |
CrushAlot
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3/5/2020 11:06 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Sambakick wrote:GOD still can't play back-to-back. When you evaluate the trade you have to include the 1st, 2nd and euro stash that the Knicks turned Morris into. DSJ has been super disappointing but was finally showing signs before the concussion. Let’s see how this plays out. KP has been a fragile player with character issues. The Knicks turned KP into 3 firsts and a second over the next 4 yrs. More assets or players may be acquired with the flexibility they obtained. O I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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TPercy
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3/6/2020 12:12 AM
we should have stole two more firsts
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ramtour420
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3/6/2020 2:07 AM
I hope I don't offend anyone with what I am about to say. I am only using this analogy to illustrate the point. This discussion here is akin to complaining about the lack of lubrication after being sexually violated. Most people would try to deal with what happened and just move on. But we are discussing how others have done it( it's not the same), defending Janis( you do remember they threatened to just go back to Latvia or wherever they are from, right?) and complaining that we got fleeced in the trade. Basically discussing the lack of foreplay and lubricant brands. I guess it's a part of dealing with trauma.
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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