There we go with one: Jason Kidd

The video is a Screamin A and his sidekick Max who also starts screaming. Kidd to coach cuz he can develop. Not sure about That. The Freak grew 4 inches after draft and worked his arse off. Kidd was there for the final transformation. Kidd blew out of Brooklyn and Milwaukee with issues.
IM sure he'd rather stab Vogel in the back and stay in LA but I can really see Kidd and the hope of Giannis coming to NY!
The hype that is.
This is a perfect Dolan hire. Im totally down for this btw. Sign me up. I won't sit here and tell you "it aint never gonna happen" based on the fact that that it never does. Lakers will do good and some how Kidd's reputation will have been rehabilitated? This is so perfectly Knick like.
Parts of this I do like. A freakly line up of Frank, Mitch and Giannis. That's some freaky shyt right there. Arm to arm that's like 32 feet of wing span!!! RJ is 19. Kind of freaky build on a kid that age. Add him to the show. The Freak show. Can we worry about shooting another time?
This is not this summer, but the one after. That's still over 140 games away.
Kidd can sell it to Dolan. He will get 5 year contract too!!! Kidd is like Fiz Both ugly. Both bald. Both got cool delivery. Kidd is meaner. WE can delay the cap, have hope all next season, maybe draft a guard for Kidd to mold in his own image! Another rookie who can't shoot!!

But here is how it does down. Giannis won't hit the market unless he does something very few players do which is flat out tell the world he won't resign with anyone if they trade him. What ever Durant did to leave OKC and not look overly evil is the playbook here. It think Durant told them early on to not trade him as he won't sign anywhere. I don't know because it was all handled out of the public eye. Durant took less to play in GSW. He also absorbed the risk to injury. Did it twice in fact and still got a max deal in Brookyn!!

Lakers could pay for AD because they got Lebron for free first. Clippers paid a ransom for Paul George cause they got Kawhai for free. If KNicks can get a player for free, then you can trade for Giannis. Who? ADavis has yet to extend. I can't see him leaving Lakers. Players don't leave them in their prime, right? Let alone to be a knick? C'mon. Wait........ Kidd is there NOW!!! Maybe he has that crazy pulsing "Watchman" flash light thing and will get AD to not resign with lakers!!
It took Lakers about 4 years to recover from trading for Jabbar and they got lucky with their picks. They got Magic Johnson and the very under rated James Worthy. Different time and Era. Kareem had a whole miserable life in Milwaukee and turbulence of his religious affiliations was not easy on him in that era. Melo to knicks was problematic because the knicks could not build around/with him (relax Jrod, relax).

With this in mind how does the freak really leave Milwaukee? Think abut how sexy all this is vs. making Mike Miller the permanent head coach like we did with JVG? Hire the charismatic Mark Jax to preach?
Knicks play on Broadway!!

arkrud wrote:With the team being a white list with anything can be written to it why not to give it to smart ambitious coach?
But I believe this team need a singular power like Pop was given with Spurs.
Knicks are in need to be re-imagined and reborn. It is dead club as of now.

The true force behind the Spurs was Owner Peter Holt. Smart enough to build an organization and even smarter to delegate expertise where he did not have it. I can't say its a recipe you can just hire people to provide. Pop was not "Pop" when he was hired. Who would have thought all these years later??? They also had the good fortune of Drafting David Robinson and Duncan. Both high character guys and they both appreciated the organization that also appreciated them.

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Problem is that it will always have to be one that does it in under a year and half.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Problem is that it will always have to be one that does it in under a year and half.

Its been stated that Fiz was hired more so due to his connections to star players than being a team builder. The Memphis team he coached relied heavily on vets like 29 yr old Conley, 32 yr old Gasol, 35 yr old Allen, 40 yr old Carter, 35 yr old Randolph. Was his most successful season as a head coach. So that may be the type of roster he works his best with.

Would explain why they had limited faith in him for the long term after KD and Kyrie were no longer in the picture. Because they didn't hire him due to his developmental resume in the first place. Even though this is what they told us.

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Problem is that it will always have to be one that does it in under a year and half.

Its been stated that Fiz was hired more so due to his connections to star players than being a team builder. The Memphis team he coached relied heavily on vets like 29 yr old Conley, 32 yr old Gasol, 35 yr old Allen, 40 yr old Carter, 35 yr old Randolph. Was his most successful season as a head coach. So that may be the type of roster he works his best with.

Would explain why they had limited faith in him for the long term after KD and Kyrie were no longer in the picture. Because they didn't hire him due to his developmental resume in the first place. Even though this is what they told us.

Quote when he was hired:

"The Knicks cited Fizdale’s leadership, experience and expertise in player development in a news release announcing the hiring."

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Problem is that it will always have to be one that does it in under a year and half.

Its been stated that Fiz was hired more so due to his connections to star players than being a team builder. The Memphis team he coached relied heavily on vets like 29 yr old Conley, 32 yr old Gasol, 35 yr old Allen, 40 yr old Carter, 35 yr old Randolph. Was his most successful season as a head coach. So that may be the type of roster he works his best with.

Would explain why they had limited faith in him for the long term after KD and Kyrie were no longer in the picture. Because they didn't hire him due to his developmental resume in the first place. Even though this is what they told us.

Quote when he was hired:

"The Knicks cited Fizdale’s leadership, experience and expertise in player development in a news release announcing the hiring."

If your making the case that Pills need to go as well. You won't get an argument from me. But that also doesn't mean that

A- Fizdale is a good coach
or
B- Fizdale is the right coach for the Knicks current situation

I mean starting Kevin Knox at SG vs the Nets? Not agreeing with his schemes, the switching/unwillingness to guard 3pt shooters. There is a laundry list of things that could be said.

Fiz get into MSG corporate snake-land willingly.
So he played by the weather.
When his services became unwanted due to the FA/KP fiasco they worked together for him to be fired.
He made quite an impression without really damaging his image too much.
Getting himself fired and get somebody removed come together in perfect harmony...

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Problem is that it will always have to be one that does it in under a year and half.

Its been stated that Fiz was hired more so due to his connections to star players than being a team builder. The Memphis team he coached relied heavily on vets like 29 yr old Conley, 32 yr old Gasol, 35 yr old Allen, 40 yr old Carter, 35 yr old Randolph. Was his most successful season as a head coach. So that may be the type of roster he works his best with.

Would explain why they had limited faith in him for the long term after KD and Kyrie were no longer in the picture. Because they didn't hire him due to his developmental resume in the first place. Even though this is what they told us.

Quote when he was hired:

"The Knicks cited Fizdale’s leadership, experience and expertise in player development in a news release announcing the hiring."

If your making the case that Pills need to go as well. You won't get an argument from me. But that also doesn't mean that

A- Fizdale is a good coach
or
B- Fizdale is the right coach for the Knicks current situation

I mean starting Kevin Knox at SG vs the Nets? Not agreeing with his schemes, the switching/unwillingness to guard 3pt shooters. There is a laundry list of things that could be said.

Point was that what ever coach we hire he would need to be given more than a year in order to find out if he is a good coach or the right coach.

Making the case that Mills should have been the only one to go. He has been here through all the BS.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Who do you think that is? And how many years do you give him to develop and build? Cuz many were saying Fiz was that a year ago.

Allanfan20 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Who do you think that is? And how many years do you give him to develop and build? Cuz many were saying Fiz was that a year ago.

I am hoping they give Miller a real chance. I can't watch west coast games during the week so I only have seen his first game. I don't want Kidd and I really don't want anyone hired because there is a chance a star would go play for him.

Agreed. Lets see how Miller does. If he sucks, then hire a reliable person who can coach. Do not hire someone bc they can lure free agents. That is proven to be ignorant business.

I'm hearing rumors that there's a small chance that Houston could be the next man up. Miller is Houston's guy, so I think he'll get a decent shot. As an aside, our Westchester squad had gone to crap since Miller left.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Who do you think that is? And how many years do you give him to develop and build? Cuz many were saying Fiz was that a year ago.

I am hoping they give Miller a real chance. I can't watch west coast games during the week so I only have seen his first game. I don't want Kidd and I really don't want anyone hired because there is a chance a star would go play for him.

Agreed. Lets see how Miller does. If he sucks, then hire a reliable person who can coach. Do not hire someone bc they can lure free agents. That is proven to be ignorant business.

I'm hearing rumors that there's a small chance that Houston could be the next man up. Miller is Houston's guy, so I think he'll get a decent shot. As an aside, our Westchester squad had gone to crap since Miller left.