TheGame wrote:Frank is finally starting to prove his worth. I know it is still early to be talking about what guys needs to work on this summer, but I have been watching Frank and think the main thing holding him back is that he is still too light for his height. His first summer he was hurt. His second summer he added a few pounds and started working out for the first time in his life. This past summer he worked hard on his ball-handling, which is allowing him now to get to where he wants on the court. This next summer, Frank needs to continue to work on his jumper, his ball-handling, but more importantly, he needs to try to add about 10-12 more pounds of muscle to his frame. The kid is still too light, which I think contributes to his inability to efficiently score in the paint or drive to the hoop. I hope the Knicks continue to develop this kid, because I think once his body fully matures and he gets to around 212-214 lbs and adds a full year's experience as a starter, his game is going to jump up 2-3 levels. He and Barrett could turn into the best defensive backcourt in the league.

I thought his handle and confidence has hurt him regarding forays into paint. He doesn’t go for contact so I don’t know how muscle would point to a deficiency. He doesn’t necessarily get muscled after a switch to bigger guys either, if anything he leverages himself very well for his build IMHO; he has stood up to PFs and Cs very nicely.

Most of Frank’s shots seem to be front of rim or back of rim when off, I’m hoping that’s a good indicator that he is moving in the right direction. Feel like he has no idea how to finish around rim when going into paint, he just kind of throws ball up and hopes. Repetition will help

He is showing to be a impact foundation piece. The more usage, reps, experience, development he gets the better for the Knicks in the immediate and distant future. Why the Knicks aren't going full throttle on Frank getting featured as much as he can handle. Given what he potentially means to the team as he develops. I don't understand.

Pretty much all our leads or comebacks. Frank had major parts in it.

Sambakick wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote: Why the Knicks aren't going full throttle on Frank getting featured as much as he can handle. Given what he potentially means to the team as he develops. I don't understand.

Pretty much all our leads or comebacks. Frank had major parts in it.

Frank was a phil draft pick. PerryMIlls went out a traded for DSJ and signed Elfrid. They Front Office will look worse if Frank wins the PG competition.

To be fair Mills was on board with the Frank draft. Mills might be the only support Frank has on the team.

Sambakick wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote: Why the Knicks aren't going full throttle on Frank getting featured as much as he can handle. Given what he potentially means to the team as he develops. I don't understand.

Pretty much all our leads or comebacks. Frank had major parts in it.

Frank was a phil draft pick. PerryMIlls went out a traded for DSJ and signed Elfrid. They Front Office will look worse if Frank wins the PG competition.

Frank had a terrible season last season so not putting all their eggs in his basket until this point id understandable. But based off how he has performed since starting, combined with his impact, combined with the fact that he is still 21, apart of the future, and still has much potential. You would think they would be trying to feature him as much as possible.

I can't believe that the FO thinks that way. As hard as it is to win in this league you can't put any thought into who was drafted by who. The player can either help the team win or he can't. They would just be making their job even harder than it is which could lead to them being removed.

EnySpree wrote:Frank's problems are between his eyes.... his God given size should make him a dominant player. He lacks confidence... at this point though, it's beyond confidence. This kid might be on the spectrum or something. Put my head on his body and I'd be the greatest point guard that ever lived. This his year 3.... no excuses for this kid. People on Instagram and twitter attack me all the time about being patient. Some say he's still 2-3 years away. Sho year 6? That's way after his rookie contract is up.... it's a ridiculous conversation.

At the same time the kid is playing adequate enough to get by. If we had a legit starter, Frank would be a super sub. I can't even say that in conversation because I get so pissed off at this bubble wrap everyone wants to put him in. Still saying give him a chance. He's had 3 years worth of chances. Like I said he's playing well enough to ger by but he's still trash if he's to be relied upon to give you 30 minutes a night. He's a back up right now.

After saying all this, do we even waste time on an extension when the time comes? He's not even worth the money his rookie option was for this year. Smh...

LOok at him, he looks 17 still!!! He was drafted too young. This kid was a real 18 year old his first year. At 17 he was playong with men in France. Ok, that sounded creepy, you know what I meant. If this was his rookie season at age 21 would we be this critical/supportive/devisive of him? This kid has really been quite a phenom reagarding "discussion"!!! His defense is his calling card. "is that so wrong"....????

newyorknewyork wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Frank's problems are between his eyes.... his God given size should make him a dominant player. He lacks confidence... at this point though, it's beyond confidence. This kid might be on the spectrum or something. Put my head on his body and I'd be the greatest point guard that ever lived. This his year 3.... no excuses for this kid. People on Instagram and twitter attack me all the time about being patient. Some say he's still 2-3 years away. Sho year 6? That's way after his rookie contract is up.... it's a ridiculous conversation.

At the same time the kid is playing adequate enough to get by. If we had a legit starter, Frank would be a super sub. I can't even say that in conversation because I get so pissed off at this bubble wrap everyone wants to put him in. Still saying give him a chance. He's had 3 years worth of chances. Like I said he's playing well enough to ger by but he's still trash if he's to be relied upon to give you 30 minutes a night. He's a back up right now.

After saying all this, do we even waste time on an extension when the time comes? He's not even worth the money his rookie option was for this year. Smh...

He doesn’t need bubble wrap. Which is kind of extreme as he is already one of the better players on the team at 21. Grantees the team sucks.

As Chandler has stated once. Fiz can’t be the last person Frank has his shot with for this org. This is Franks 3rd yr. First was under Hornacek when he was 18. Next have been under Fiz.

Mitch was supposed to have worked on his jumper all off season. He hasn’t taken one 3. And maybe has taken 2 jumpers on the season. No flashes of a face up game. Nothing has been added to his game from last season. Nothing is being displayed that this type of development is even being promoted. Everything Mitch does good or bad is based off his own raw talent or flaws. There is nothing where we look at scheme wise and say this scheme is promoting his game either.

Knox, what has he added to his game from last season? Since he was the draft pick from this regime. What was the vision and plan for him over time. What scheme were they looking to utilize where they felt he could be a player that promotes their philosophy?

I can probably go down the line. Now Frank, Knox, Mitch all came in as some of the youngest players in the NBA and maybe it’s not fair to judge Fiz on this as they were so raw. I don’t know. What I do know if I don’t see a plan working towards actual development. After the team invested in a 17 win season to boot for development.

Mitch is in his second year, and missed college all together. I'm sure Mitch worked on extending his range, ball handling, and maybe some post moves this summer in a one on one setting which is way different than pulling off these moves against NBA talent in actual NBA games. The fact that he aint utilizing these new skills he acquired over one summer in a one on one setting when the lights on on under the low MSG ceiling aint an indictment on the coach. It takes time, years. Some players develop at different rates. Frank is doing things this year that I'm sure he's been working on for years.

Confidence, Repetition and Comfortability is the key. In no way am I comparing a High school girl basketball player to an NBA player, but I've been training a HS junior all summer on her offensive game. This young lady has received interest from Georgetown, Xavier and Columbia mainly because of her defense, rebounding and her non-stop motor. I watched her play this afternoon at a holiday tournament, and not one time did she utilize anything that we worked on in the game. Some of the stuff I worked with her on, was new to her game and she aint comfortable or confident in pulling them out yet. I saw some old habits come out because the stuff me and her were doing is relatively new. Confidence, Repetition, comfortability.

Frank needs to drink more heavy cream and milkfat! Heavy squats!

jrodmc wrote:IronWillGiroud, where are you! LMAO!

Frank needs to drink more heavy cream and milkfat! Heavy squats!

lol