Vmart wrote:

anrst wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:If you have NBA league pass, try listening to the opposing teams commentators, they trash the Knicks summer as being the most confusing and ridiculous overhaul of a roster. Identifying our pickups as rejects from other teams, and bench players..that's a direct shot at Perry and mills.

Fiz is way over his head, he doesn't have the IQ or the staff to make this work. A direct reflection on the Gm.

I've been saying it for yrs, the minute we hired mills, we started back losing, and that has not changed. He's the biggest embarrassment this franchise ever hired.

Fiz perry and Mills, have not changed the culture, have not been able to attract anyone worth mentioning, we're not a defensive team, we're not an offensive team, were not bullying anyone, and we are so unprepared almost every night..

You can't fire fiz without firing mills or perry, if not both since they claimed to collaborate on everything

Mills and Fiz need to go. Perry is given the keys for the next 1.5 years. Bring in the GLeague coach and see what happens.

Let Perry know if you don't win, you are out too.

Other teams and coaches are winning with less.

i kind of agree. enough mills already. it's amazing this guy is still around.

give perry the power if we can't get musai.

Perry has done nothing here made mistakes all over the place. He brought in 4 power forwards and 4 point guards all the dude has done is exacerbate the situation with repetitive positional moves.

Perry drafted well. Mitch, Knox, Barrett, Iggy. Can't knock any of those picks and you could even say he made the right pick each time.

We had zero power forwards before the signings.

But even if you have a problem with Portis and Ranldle and the like, I can't assume that this was Perry's agenda. My bet is Mills is driving the train. (But I base this on close nothing. Mostly just imagination.)

anrst wrote:

Vmart wrote:

anrst wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:If you have NBA league pass, try listening to the opposing teams commentators, they trash the Knicks summer as being the most confusing and ridiculous overhaul of a roster. Identifying our pickups as rejects from other teams, and bench players..that's a direct shot at Perry and mills.

Fiz is way over his head, he doesn't have the IQ or the staff to make this work. A direct reflection on the Gm.

I've been saying it for yrs, the minute we hired mills, we started back losing, and that has not changed. He's the biggest embarrassment this franchise ever hired.

Fiz perry and Mills, have not changed the culture, have not been able to attract anyone worth mentioning, we're not a defensive team, we're not an offensive team, were not bullying anyone, and we are so unprepared almost every night..

You can't fire fiz without firing mills or perry, if not both since they claimed to collaborate on everything

Mills and Fiz need to go. Perry is given the keys for the next 1.5 years. Bring in the GLeague coach and see what happens.

Let Perry know if you don't win, you are out too.

Other teams and coaches are winning with less.

i kind of agree. enough mills already. it's amazing this guy is still around.

give perry the power if we can't get musai.

Perry has done nothing here made mistakes all over the place. He brought in 4 power forwards and 4 point guards all the dude has done is exacerbate the situation with repetitive positional moves.

Perry drafted well. Mitch, Knox, Barrett, Iggy. Can't knock any of those picks and you could even say he made the right pick each time.

We had zero power forwards before the signings.

But even if you have a problem with Portis and Ranldle and the like, I can't assume that this was Perry's agenda. My bet is Mills is driving the train. (But I base this on close nothing. Mostly just imagination.)

I give him credit for MR that was an unseen move by him. But Knox, Barrett were pick where they were suppose to be picked and Iggy well we don’t even know what he is at this level yet.

Vmart wrote:

anrst wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:If you have NBA league pass, try listening to the opposing teams commentators, they trash the Knicks summer as being the most confusing and ridiculous overhaul of a roster. Identifying our pickups as rejects from other teams, and bench players..that's a direct shot at Perry and mills.

Fiz is way over his head, he doesn't have the IQ or the staff to make this work. A direct reflection on the Gm.

I've been saying it for yrs, the minute we hired mills, we started back losing, and that has not changed. He's the biggest embarrassment this franchise ever hired.

Fiz perry and Mills, have not changed the culture, have not been able to attract anyone worth mentioning, we're not a defensive team, we're not an offensive team, were not bullying anyone, and we are so unprepared almost every night..

You can't fire fiz without firing mills or perry, if not both since they claimed to collaborate on everything

Mills and Fiz need to go. Perry is given the keys for the next 1.5 years. Bring in the GLeague coach and see what happens.

Let Perry know if you don't win, you are out too.

Other teams and coaches are winning with less.

i kind of agree. enough mills already. it's amazing this guy is still around.

give perry the power if we can't get musai.

Perry has done nothing here made mistakes all over the place. He brought in 4 power forwards and 4 point guards all the dude has done is exacerbate the situation with repetitive positional moves.

Lets say Mills has final say, so maybe all the signings were not his ideas.

UNless you can get a quality GM now, keep Perry for a bit of continuity. His record is decent.

Its understandable that we had to pick from the bottom of the litter to put in the front-office because no winning coach/GM/or president want to replace HOF Phil Jackson.
It does show the Knicks does have very low level people in the front-office and coaching staff !!!

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Berman says

The Knicks do not have a player on the roster who has come close to making an All-Star team.

Last year we signed players on the out or at most minimum salary guys.
This year we have real NBA players. These guys would have been signed by other teams had we not. Maybe not at that salary but we didn't commit long term. They are role players but still NBA players.

Plus Knox has improved, Barret is already making an impact. There's no way we should lose as badly as last year.

He does nothing well. He doesn't develop players; he doesn't game plan well; he doesn't adjust; he can't close; and he make horrendous amateurish mistakes every other game

We played several good teams and had close defeats (that's about as positive as we can say); We are also extremely close to being winless

He needs to go, as does Mills, and probably Perry. Perry is the least bad of the bunch. But someone has to own this roster creation and this coach selection

TheGame wrote:Firing Fiz at this point would be silly. This roster is flawed. You hired the guy, so you have to give him a fair chance. We just had a great win in Dallas, now one game later we want to fire the coach. That press conference was a bad move. Let Fiz finish the season and evaluate him then. Worse case scenario, the team continues to suck, we get another top-5 pick and we finally draft a pg who can run the team for the next 10 years.

fwk00 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Good work here by Berman.

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I agree with some of this. But I find it hard to believe that Perry/Mills crafted this roster without feedback from Fix. One of the things they touted during the Fiz hiring was his comparability with front office. Is it too soon to fire Fiz? Yeah, probably. Does he need to improve? Heck yeah. I knew we were probably a 30 win team, maybe a little better if everything works right. The problem isn't that Morris is miscast at SF. The problem is our coach hasn't rein him in. Is Randle really this trash? The dude was getting better his last two years. Same with Payton. But they've gotten away from what made them solid NBA players. Do I blame them? I'm sure they'd like to run more two-man plays. Why not try that more when Payton gets healthy. I'm high on RJ, but it was unfair to put him in the position of lead intiator when you're trying to win games. Do we have stars? No, but we have solid role players who've shown that they can perform at the right level in the right role. They just need a coach who can put them there.

I thought the FO had an inspired summer.

First they dodged signing the twin albatrosses [KI and Durant].

Second, they did analyze the gold standard attributes of FA who were out of reach AND identify the next best performing players who were available.

Randle, Gibson, Portis, Ellington, and so on all represent highly desirable players who, though not superstars, can deliver results if coached correctly. [Personally, I think Fizdale is a fail in this regard].

Fizdale reminds me of Bill Clinton in that by hugging the FO so tightly, they are mistaken for the same vision. I'm not so sure. Perry certainly added some players who fit the lunch-pail profile Memphis had under Fizdale so there is at least that.

Randle is not trash but he can't become a caricature of Melo - that's just cruel. Morris is the better option of the two.

Time to recalibrate the roster just a hair.

I agree with this a bit. I like the FO moves so far. The only criticism that you can lay on them is what they did as far as the PG position. They should have retained Mudiay at a minimum. Yes, 4 PG's might have been excessive, but the three we have all had really giant question marks on them.

As far as Fizdale, I've liked the guy from day 1. I thought he did a good job last year motivating the team. And he is probably a better motivator than x & o's guy. And maybe instead of firing Fizdale, they should insist on some additions to the bench. Bring in some former HC that is happy to be in the back just installing and running a better offensive system.

Allanfan20 wrote:Anyone hear how shaky Steve’s voice was? I get a feeling Dolan must have torn him a new arshole right before that conference. He sounded shooken up.

My theory is that both Mills and Perry know how embarrassing it was to make such a press conference under all those circumstances. But they had an earful from Dolan earlier and he might have demanded they expressed the ticket holders that this wasn't to be expected any further.