Vmart wrote:Definitely not a star maker.

Fiz's coaching in a nutshell:

Chandler wrote:

TLover wrote:First Gasol, then KP, now he’s screwing around with Mitch. This guy is an empty suit who thinks he’s slick but he can’t coach. Calls no real plays and thinks he can just roll the ball on the court.
If we had a real nba coach we would still have KP. He & Mitch were perfect compliments to each other.
So frustrating as a Knicks season ticket holder. Organization is run by baffoons.

putting aside the "star" characterization, Mitch made most of his progress last year when Deandre was on the team. At the moment i suppose his mentor is Taj but i always thought of him more as a 4, and not a tutor for a shot blocking type

Mitch also credited his decreased fouls last year with tips he learned from Kerry Kittles -- who wasn't affiliated with the team.

I don't mind if Fizz benches him, but there has to be a REAL plan for development. He was drafted as the epitome of a development project and to date his best development has come from outside the CS

That's the case for knox as well, and if frank is the epitome of the knicks development, then we should be focus on ready made players, like we did in the 90's

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

TLover wrote:First Gasol, then KP, now he’s screwing around with Mitch. This guy is an empty suit who thinks he’s slick but he can’t coach. Calls no real plays and thinks he can just roll the ball on the court.
If we had a real nba coach we would still have KP. He & Mitch were perfect compliments to each other.
So frustrating as a Knicks season ticket holder. Organization is run by baffoons.

putting aside the "star" characterization, Mitch made most of his progress last year when Deandre was on the team. At the moment i suppose his mentor is Taj but i always thought of him more as a 4, and not a tutor for a shot blocking type

Mitch also credited his decreased fouls last year with tips he learned from Kerry Kittles -- who wasn't affiliated with the team.

I don't mind if Fizz benches him, but there has to be a REAL plan for development. He was drafted as the epitome of a development project and to date his best development has come from outside the CS

That's the case for knox as well, and if frank is the epitome of the knicks development, then we should be focus on ready made players, like we did in the 90's

The core of that was Ewing, Oak (Trade from drafted Cartright), Starks and Mase, who were developed FA's, and H20 a free agent. The team was build off of ewing. Oak became Camby, Starks was used in Spree trade, and Mase for LJ which in part was us taking LJ monster contract.
IN an era of no salary cap or it was not a hard cap then.
The point was there was a core. A core of talent, a core of developing talent and we were able to trade picks that then were less valuable because of contract management. 1-6 sucks. No easy answers. Just easy concepts.

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Chandler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

TLover wrote:First Gasol, then KP, now he’s screwing around with Mitch. This guy is an empty suit who thinks he’s slick but he can’t coach. Calls no real plays and thinks he can just roll the ball on the court.
If we had a real nba coach we would still have KP. He & Mitch were perfect compliments to each other.
So frustrating as a Knicks season ticket holder. Organization is run by baffoons.

putting aside the "star" characterization, Mitch made most of his progress last year when Deandre was on the team. At the moment i suppose his mentor is Taj but i always thought of him more as a 4, and not a tutor for a shot blocking type

Mitch also credited his decreased fouls last year with tips he learned from Kerry Kittles -- who wasn't affiliated with the team.

I don't mind if Fizz benches him, but there has to be a REAL plan for development. He was drafted as the epitome of a development project and to date his best development has come from outside the CS

That's the case for knox as well, and if frank is the epitome of the knicks development, then we should be focus on ready made players, like we did in the 90's

Building a team through FA is a losing proposition in a salary capped league UNLESS you can land bons fide superstars worth more than their MAX or SUPERMAX price tag. With FA you pay market value (generally speaking) and if anything a losing franchise has to pay a premium to get a player to join

We need to draft and develop. If we're not doing that well, the people in charge of drafting and developing need to go

No star FA has ever signed with knicks, not even in the 90's...mostly every good player came via trade

The F/O has had more young players than any front office the knicks have had PERIOD, and they are all well below avg, and not taking any major steps

Mills has assembled not 1 but 2 rosters that produce 17 win season in a 4 yr span. He has assembled rosters that have shattered every losing record (most overall losses in a row, most home losses in a row, most road losses in a row) in knicks 60+ yr history..

He hired an assistant coach to be his head coach, traded for draft bust and didn't even develop them, hired scott perry (a yes man) who has less impact around the league then him, he kept everyone on the coaching staff as if they did a good job last season

Between himself, Perry and Fiz(who all supposed to have great relationship with players around the league),couldn't convince a single star to here them out, and backed up rinks truck, to signed role player.

this franchise has the worst record in the entire NBA since he took over

Your trying to justify his plan or act like he knows what's best for this franchise..

yeak..ok

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

TLover wrote:First Gasol, then KP, now he’s screwing around with Mitch. This guy is an empty suit who thinks he’s slick but he can’t coach. Calls no real plays and thinks he can just roll the ball on the court.
If we had a real nba coach we would still have KP. He & Mitch were perfect compliments to each other.
So frustrating as a Knicks season ticket holder. Organization is run by baffoons.

putting aside the "star" characterization, Mitch made most of his progress last year when Deandre was on the team. At the moment i suppose his mentor is Taj but i always thought of him more as a 4, and not a tutor for a shot blocking type

Mitch also credited his decreased fouls last year with tips he learned from Kerry Kittles -- who wasn't affiliated with the team.

I don't mind if Fizz benches him, but there has to be a REAL plan for development. He was drafted as the epitome of a development project and to date his best development has come from outside the CS

That's the case for knox as well, and if frank is the epitome of the knicks development, then we should be focus on ready made players, like we did in the 90's

Building a team through FA is a losing proposition in a salary capped league UNLESS you can land bons fide superstars worth more than their MAX or SUPERMAX price tag. With FA you pay market value (generally speaking) and if anything a losing franchise has to pay a premium to get a player to join

We need to draft and develop. If we're not doing that well, the people in charge of drafting and developing need to go

No star FA has ever signed with knicks, not even in the 90's...mostly every good player came via trade

The F/O has had more young players than any front office the knicks have had PERIOD, and they are all well below avg, and not taking any major steps

Mills has assembled not 1 but 2 rosters that produce 17 win season in a 4 yr span. He has assembled rosters that have shattered every losing record (most overall losses in a row, most home losses in a row, most road losses in a row) in knicks 60+ yr history..

He hired an assistant coach to be his head coach, traded for draft bust and didn't even develop them, hired scott perry (a yes man) who has less impact around the league then him, he kept everyone on the coaching staff as if they did a good job last season

Between himself, Perry and Fiz(who all supposed to have great relationship with players around the league),couldn't convince a single star to here them out, and backed up rinks truck, to signed role player.

this franchise has the worst record in the entire NBA since he took over

Your trying to justify his plan or act like he knows what's best for this franchise..

yeak..ok

You're nuts! Just read my posts and you'll see i'm one of Mill's and Perry's biggest critics

What i was saying is that the idea of building a team through FA is highly suspect when your team stinks

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

TLover wrote:First Gasol, then KP, now he’s screwing around with Mitch. This guy is an empty suit who thinks he’s slick but he can’t coach. Calls no real plays and thinks he can just roll the ball on the court.
If we had a real nba coach we would still have KP. He & Mitch were perfect compliments to each other.
So frustrating as a Knicks season ticket holder. Organization is run by baffoons.

putting aside the "star" characterization, Mitch made most of his progress last year when Deandre was on the team. At the moment i suppose his mentor is Taj but i always thought of him more as a 4, and not a tutor for a shot blocking type

Mitch also credited his decreased fouls last year with tips he learned from Kerry Kittles -- who wasn't affiliated with the team.

I don't mind if Fizz benches him, but there has to be a REAL plan for development. He was drafted as the epitome of a development project and to date his best development has come from outside the CS

That's the case for knox as well, and if frank is the epitome of the knicks development, then we should be focus on ready made players, like we did in the 90's

Building a team through FA is a losing proposition in a salary capped league UNLESS you can land bons fide superstars worth more than their MAX or SUPERMAX price tag. With FA you pay market value (generally speaking) and if anything a losing franchise has to pay a premium to get a player to join

We need to draft and develop. If we're not doing that well, the people in charge of drafting and developing need to go

No star FA has ever signed with knicks, not even in the 90's...mostly every good player came via trade

The F/O has had more young players than any front office the knicks have had PERIOD, and they are all well below avg, and not taking any major steps

Mills has assembled not 1 but 2 rosters that produce 17 win season in a 4 yr span. He has assembled rosters that have shattered every losing record (most overall losses in a row, most home losses in a row, most road losses in a row) in knicks 60+ yr history..

He hired an assistant coach to be his head coach, traded for draft bust and didn't even develop them, hired scott perry (a yes man) who has less impact around the league then him, he kept everyone on the coaching staff as if they did a good job last season

Between himself, Perry and Fiz(who all supposed to have great relationship with players around the league),couldn't convince a single star to here them out, and backed up rinks truck, to signed role player.

this franchise has the worst record in the entire NBA since he took over

Your trying to justify his plan or act like he knows what's best for this franchise..

yeak..ok

Blame Mills for Phils work? I know it works for you.
No stars in the 90's? I thought we were good without? We went to the finals twice in the 90's?
What free agents were available that was missed? What was the window of opportunity either by player or by cap?
Grant Hill? Brain Grant? Shaq? the Details of ewings contract? Play a role? Mitumbo? Danny Ainge? Divac? Kerr?
BTW, Allan Houstan was signed as a free agent. At the time he was signed he was young and rising. We almost had Reggie Miller but H20 was far younger. Money aside, Allan was great. Money included, it did not pan out as hoped.

You have the answers 1248 but you don't have facts because you don't know the questions to ask yourself.