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Chandler
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10/28/2019  1:40 PM
While still a work in progress I want to commend Kevin Knox

He clearly worked on his strength and conditioning; his shot looks good; and he had at least one game with increase enthusiasm rebounding

While he may not turn into a superstar i think he will turn into a pick that can contribute. Haven't thought about it much but I'll compare to Rashard Lewis for being tall w a nice stroke.

We need to have a clearer role for him though. At the moment he's a bit of a black hole when he catches on the perimeter and he will drive to the hoop, but after that?? This is on the CS to develop


Mitchell is also a work in progress and it's a small sample size but it does look like he worked on his FTs


I think these guys have their heads screwed on straight

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10/28/2019  1:48 PM
I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on
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10/28/2019  2:45 PM
Knox has been great so far and like what i see from him so far. On other hand the only problem i still have with mitch robinson he still commits the dumbest fouls and its obvious stupid fouls he commits. Mitch robinson has to stop committing these stupid fouls otherwise fiz is going to sub him out for gibson or portis.
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10/28/2019  3:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2019  3:22 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

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10/28/2019  3:23 PM
I think Knox will be a great player we can rely on off the bench.
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10/28/2019  3:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2019  3:39 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

I would say I definitely prefer Mitch over Schroeder and Muscala. Also, the Schroeder vs. Payton comparison is a lot closer than you think. Payton can do more things on the court. Yes, Schroeder can be electric. But he is verrrryyy inconsistent.

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10/28/2019  3:35 PM
Chandler wrote:While still a work in progress I want to commend Kevin Knox

He clearly worked on his strength and conditioning; his shot looks good; and he had at least one game with increase enthusiasm rebounding

While he may not turn into a superstar i think he will turn into a pick that can contribute. Haven't thought about it much but I'll compare to Rashard Lewis for being tall w a nice stroke.

We need to have a clearer role for him though. At the moment he's a bit of a black hole when he catches on the perimeter and he will drive to the hoop, but after that?? This is on the CS to develop


Mitchell is also a work in progress and it's a small sample size but it does look like he worked on his FTs


I think these guys have their heads screwed on straight

Def need a clearer role for Knox off the bench. He takes some bad drives as he is scared he isn't going to touch the ball again. So he tries to get his when he can instead of trusting ball movement. Cuz there isnt much when the team goes ISO or attempt to score on triple coverage on the paint.

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10/28/2019  3:37 PM
Mitch is a flat out impact player when on the court. He changes the landscape defensively when he is in. And he puts ups big numbers on per min basis. Key is him staying on the court instead of foul trouble.
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10/28/2019  3:38 PM
I like both guys a lot. Robinson should a be DPOY candidate for a long time. Knox can contribute as a high level bench scorer and maybe even develop into a Tabias Harris type down the road. The key for him is consistent 3pt shooting and defense. We will need him to become a 40% shooter from the outside.
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10/28/2019  3:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

I would say I definitely prefer Mitch of Schroeder and Muscala. Also, the Schroeder vs. Payton comparison is a lot closer than you think. Payton can do more things on the court. Yes, Schroeder can be electric. But he is verrrryyy inconsistent.

Schroder is a guy who can score but lacks impact on the floor. He would be very frustrating to knicks fans. I think Payton is probably as good or better.

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10/28/2019  3:43 PM
Knixkik wrote:I like both guys a lot. Robinson should a be DPOY candidate for a long time. Knox can contribute as a high level bench scorer and maybe even develop into a Tabias Harris type down the road. The key for him is consistent 3pt shooting and defense. We will need him to become a 40% shooter from the outside.

Keith Van Horn, Tobias Harris type would be a very good player. Ryan Anderson would be the floor, a solid offensive player whose defense makes it hard to keep him on the floor for the extended minutes.
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10/28/2019  3:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2019  4:08 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

I would say I definitely prefer Mitch over Schroeder and Muscala. Also, the Schroeder vs. Payton comparison is a lot closer than you think. Payton can do more things on the court. Yes, Schroeder can be electric. But he is verrrryyy inconsistent.

which one of our point guards are consistent again, because i forgot.

I don't dislike Mitch, but he's had zero impact, and his development is suspect under this regimed..The guy is still struggling with the same issues he had last season...

We failed to send frank or mitch to the g league..and so many fans have question that move

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10/28/2019  3:50 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

You make stuff up bro, and its **** nobody talking about. Atl wanted to dump Schroder. They took Melo's expiring contract and a draft pick. You love garbage players like Burke. The best is you will say Burke is great because PHili signed him and they are competing Who is talking about Dennis Schroder? Atl opted to rebuild rather than keep him around.

If Knox can stay in front of his man he'll be good. I watch him around the ball a lot and he's working hard and getting better. Knox has grown on me. If he keeps shooting well it he's a nice player. His passing and ball handling skills have clearly improved as well. Mitch looks great but both of these guys are gonna take a couple more years

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fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

You make stuff up bro, and its **** nobody talking about. Atl wanted to dump Schroder. They took Melo's expiring contract and a draft pick. You love garbage players like Burke. The best is you will say Burke is great because PHili signed him and they are competing Who is talking about Dennis Schroder? Atl opted to rebuild rather than keep him around.

If Knox can stay in front of his man he'll be good. I watch him around the ball a lot and he's working hard and getting better. Knox has grown on me. If he keeps shooting well it he's a nice player. His passing and ball handling skills have clearly improved as well. Mitch looks great but both of these guys are gonna take a couple more years

I was actually being sarcastic about Keith smart working with DSJ and his shooting for 3 month only to see him look worse than last yr.

That's why i said it's a good think knox didn't work with him.

I didn't like the trade, and I didn't like the KP trade either, it looks as if we dump both of them

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10/28/2019  5:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2019  5:19 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

I would say I definitely prefer Mitch over Schroeder and Muscala. Also, the Schroeder vs. Payton comparison is a lot closer than you think. Payton can do more things on the court. Yes, Schroeder can be electric. But he is verrrryyy inconsistent.

which one of our point guards are consistent again, because i forgot.

I don't dislike Mitch, but he's had zero impact, and his development is suspect under this regimed..The guy is still struggling with the same issues he had last season...

We failed to send frank or mitch to the g league..and so many fans have question that move


So you want to add another one who costs more and has issues with immaturity off the court? Also, if you ask any OKC fan, I guarantee you they would trade Muscala and Schroeder for Mitch in a heartbeat.
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10/28/2019  5:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2019  5:42 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Chandler wrote:While still a work in progress I want to commend Kevin Knox

He clearly worked on his strength and conditioning; his shot looks good; and he had at least one game with increase enthusiasm rebounding

While he may not turn into a superstar i think he will turn into a pick that can contribute. Haven't thought about it much but I'll compare to Rashard Lewis for being tall w a nice stroke.

We need to have a clearer role for him though. At the moment he's a bit of a black hole when he catches on the perimeter and he will drive to the hoop, but after that?? This is on the CS to develop


Mitchell is also a work in progress and it's a small sample size but it does look like he worked on his FTs


I think these guys have their heads screwed on straight

Def need a clearer role for Knox off the bench. He takes some bad drives as he is scared he isn't going to touch the ball again. So he tries to get his when he can instead of trusting ball movement. Cuz there isnt much when the team goes ISO or attempt to score on triple coverage on the paint.

I agree with this 100%. This is the dark side of iso and lack of ball movement: it can be infectious.

I can see a lot of different roles for him where he can contribute, e.g., now that he has some meat on him why can't he be a pick and pop guy. or a Ryan Anderson type (Rashard Lewis)

Also since i think he does have his head on right, he will continue to improve on both sides of the ball with the proper coaching

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fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:I am fan of both these kids. Despite what "certain" people say we have drafted and started to develop some good young players. Knox is still a baby but I love what ive seen from his shooting and his production even off the bench. Next step is his defense. Mitch is probably my first or second favorite right now. Talk about a steal in the 2nd round. Its funny a certain person today said we got NOTHING in the Melo trade lol. anyway when it comes to Mitch obviously he is still raw so he needs to cut down on the fouls and I hope those ankle injuries he has gotten a lot go away as the seasons go on

We basically got a 2nd round pick for melo..Mitch robison, a total project, that may never reach his potential under this regime

The thunder flipped melo a yr later (when is declined was even more evident) for Dennis Schroder and forward Mike Muscala, 2 guys that we could desperately use right now.

If your telling me you prefer frank, DSJ or payton over Dennis Schroder..I would suggest you put down the crack pipe.

Im just glad knox didn't work with keith smart like DSJ did..

You make stuff up bro, and its **** nobody talking about. Atl wanted to dump Schroder. They took Melo's expiring contract and a draft pick. You love garbage players like Burke. The best is you will say Burke is great because PHili signed him and they are competing Who is talking about Dennis Schroder? Atl opted to rebuild rather than keep him around.

If Knox can stay in front of his man he'll be good. I watch him around the ball a lot and he's working hard and getting better. Knox has grown on me. If he keeps shooting well it he's a nice player. His passing and ball handling skills have clearly improved as well. Mitch looks great but both of these guys are gonna take a couple more years

He makes me laugh at this point. He is probably the only Knick fan who think Mitch makes "zero impact" lol. That tells you something
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10/28/2019  5:44 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Mitch is a flat out impact player when on the court. He changes the landscape defensively when he is in. And he puts ups big numbers on per min basis. Key is him staying on the court instead of foul trouble.

I agree with this and some doesn't show up in stats, e.g., his ability to block 3s itself has affected other team's play. He just needs to settle down some -- which he showed signed of last year (when Deandre Jordan was around)

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10/28/2019  5:58 PM
Chandler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Mitch is a flat out impact player when on the court. He changes the landscape defensively when he is in. And he puts ups big numbers on per min basis. Key is him staying on the court instead of foul trouble.

I agree with this and some doesn't show up in stats, e.g., his ability to block 3s itself has affected other team's play. He just needs to settle down some -- which he showed signed of last year (when Deandre Jordan was around)

Absolutely. Mitch is a IMPACT player despite what a certain person may claim. Everyone else seems to agree. Even missing an entire college year he still looked really good. His foul shooting is already improved. I think once he can cut down on the fouls he is gonna be an even bigger IMPACT player
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10/28/2019  9:30 PM
Awesome. Finally got one
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
onto a more positive note... Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson

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