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NardDogNation
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10/3/2019  12:23 AM
Saw an article by Isola concerning the possibility of Ujiri being a future hire. Unfortunately, I don't have an account with the Athletic but would like to see what he has to say (though I suspect it is bull****). Thanks in advance.
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10/3/2019  6:21 AM
You can get a few articles free every month if you sign up and get the app. Also, guys usually post the articles on K icks reddit. I wouldn’t waste a free article on Isola.
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Nalod
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10/3/2019  8:30 AM
IT was reported he was offered 10mil per year to got to the Wiz which he turned down.
Not set any thing where he resigned or extended.
At this juncture I cannot say MIlls has been a successful but for the first time in decades we have a President who hired a GM who hired a coach and is building thru youth with an emphasis on hiring personal geared to the task. As for a time line of expectation I can’t say but when you draft 18 and 19 year olds and no “Lebron-Zion” picks its a process then an event. Thus, While I respect the hell out of Ujiri and would take him if that was possible I’d rather Mills succeed then wish his failure so we can make a change. We have seen this movie before?
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10/3/2019  10:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/3/2019  10:23 AM
You'd rather pass on an exec with a recent chip in his resume for watching and hoping for the best with an organizational hack who's been part of the worst seasons in franchise history. What Knicksland movie have you seen before that stars an exec coming in with this type of proven track record? Honestly just wondering...I'd like to buy the DVD
Nalod
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10/3/2019  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/3/2019  11:40 AM

While I respect the hell out of Ujiri and would take him if that was possible I’d rather Mills succeed then wish his failure so we can make a change. We have seen this movie before?

So what is Nalod saying here? I would take him if that was possible.
What are you saying? you'd rather Mills/knicks fail so you can hire someone else? Im tired of wishing on a new starphuch savior! Ujiri was not born a Basketball exec god, he earned it. It rather look back and see that Mills got better and Perry was a dude ready to step up and show what he could do. Poaching another exec is ok but lets see if this very different group doing very different things can make a go of it. Reality is Ujiri is not on the block is he?
Nor is Mills getting fired at the moment. So before you get all excited about a "Gotcha" do a reality check.

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10/4/2019  8:36 AM
And what jrodmc is saying is that Mills has already failed, and if said actual respectable exec is available, you take Ujiri every day of the week and three times on Sunday. If he's not on the block, fine. Let Perry and Fiz swim in the low end of the pool for awhile.
What jrodmc is saying is Mills doesn't have to fail in order for JimmyDollars to pay Ujiri his Phil money. I love the whole anti-starphuch mantra, but you really extend it too far sometimes.

We have seen this movie before?

I'm glad Nalod didn't bother to identify the movie as Phil HotPocket Savior. That would have been embarrassing.
Nalod
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10/4/2019  12:31 PM

Movie? "The Alternative Starphuch" by "M. Night" Shyamalan! He won an Oscar for this. Still to this day movie goers don't know the ending. They debate it on line. Some think Melo was great, some say not so great! Amazing!!!

The Starphuch thematic formula? Hire a star, sign a star, get fans lathered up in excitement, Fail.
So year, lets get all excited that knicks fail then Mills gets canned and Ujiri gets hired. Sorry, LIke I said, Seen that before. What I said was I'd rather the team not fail. Not endorsing Mills. Not dissing him either.

NardDogNation
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10/4/2019  4:11 PM
CrushAlot wrote:You can get a few articles free every month if you sign up and get the app. Also, guys usually post the articles on K icks reddit. I wouldn’t waste a free article on Isola.

Lol, I already blew through the articles. One was impressive enough where I briefly considered subscribing for the service but couldn't justify the expense for a 33% success rate. I suspect Isola's work would be more of what I percieved to be a 66%-fail rate but the topic was intriguing o its face. I was skeptical of Ujiri's skills with the Nuggets but what he's done with the backend of that Raptors roster is impressive. We need some of that eye for talent AND the structure needed to develop them. So far the Knicks have only proven to be good at identifying talent.

NardDogNation
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10/4/2019  4:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/4/2019  4:29 PM
Nalod wrote:IT was reported he was offered 10mil per year to got to the Wiz which he turned down.
Not set any thing where he resigned or extended.
At this juncture I cannot say MIlls has been a successful but for the first time in decades we have a President who hired a GM who hired a coach and is building thru youth with an emphasis on hiring personal geared to the task. As for a time line of expectation I can’t say but when you draft 18 and 19 year olds and no “Lebron-Zion” picks its a process then an event. Thus, While I respect the hell out of Ujiri and would take him if that was possible I’d rather Mills succeed then wish his failure so we can make a change. We have seen this movie before?

I heard $10 million/yr and an ownership stake. I think that would be a more than reasonable offer on our part considering the flamming piles of dog-**** we've thrown money at in the past. At the very least, Ujiri has consistently proven to be worth a commitment. And as much as China and India might be the league's biggest markets for hustling merchandise; Africa seems to be the next great pipeline of talent, so having a native who seems to have extensive connections with Basketball Without Borders and its participants might be a good investment.

As for Mills-Perry, I never had much faith in them and that is more or less the case for me today. People give them tons of credit for the youth we've accumulated but the Knicks post-Layden have ALWAYS been pretty good at identifying talent via the draft/undrafted pools. What they've consistently failed at is developing those guys beyond what they are in year-1 and I'm skeptical that Mills-Perry combo will change that. As has been the case with past regimes, they have been AWFUL at managing contracts and manipulating the CBA. So I'm not expecting much to change in the coming years, unfortunately.

Anyone Have An Athletic Account? Ujiri to NYK?

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