Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Well said - I agree with all the above except...
Think Trier will average less and may get traded...
RJ will show flashes but not come around until middle to end of season (shot inconsistent)
Knox will hopefully start off the bench and earn his minutes this year

I think the knicks will win 31-35 games ( don't know if I am cheating a bit).

randle will lead the knicks in scoring with around 20ppg. barrett will develop into a number two scoring threat but he will have struggles in the middle of the year and turn it on in march/ april to earn rookie first team. knox will start the season on the bench behind morris but knox will be a better shooter and provide pop off the bench with trier. robinson will be a beast avg a double double with 12ppg and 10rppg and 2.5+ blocks. he will pace to be the leader in blocks in the nba. I think dsj will still struggle and payton will start before him eventually. if dsj reaches his potential, we should win at the upper end of my prediction or better.

Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Why do you feel that way about the NETS other than they got everything going for them, Better Owner, coach, F/O, players..

I'm sure sure if the knick were betters in all the above area's, you would feel sorry for them..

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Why do you feel that way about the NETS other than they got everything going for them, Better Owner, coach, F/O, players..

I'm sure sure if the knick were betters in all the above area's, you would feel sorry for them..

You sound like Bonn when I once claimed Jamal Crawford and Channing Frye were my favorite players. He was baffled I didn’t pick Marbury. Nerd. Lol

I hate them because I am a fan and I am allowed to and they are in Brooklyn (which I can’t stand Brooklyn anyway because it’s a pain in the absolute ass to drive through) and they made us look bad when we already looked bad. Not their fault but too bad. If you got a problem then Triple H has this for you....

Allanfan20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Why do you feel that way about the NETS other than they got everything going for them, Better Owner, coach, F/O, players..

I'm sure sure if the knick were betters in all the above area's, you would feel sorry for them..

You sound like Bonn when I once claimed Jamal Crawford and Channing Frye were my favorite players. He was baffled I didn’t pick Marbury. Nerd. Lol

I hate them because I am a fan and I am allowed to and they are in Brooklyn (which I can’t stand Brooklyn anyway because it’s a pain in the absolute ass to drive through) and they made us look bad when we already looked bad. Not their fault but too bad. If you got a problem then Triple H has this for you....

Well at least your honest..

I'm actually from BKLYN, and I had no love for them when they first moved to bklyn, especially when they added KG and Paul Pierce.

I'm starting to warm up to them because I love their colors, i like the style they play and I like the direction they are going in, and the coach is pretty solid.

I'm a die hard knick fan, but I still check for other teams. Unlike you guys, i will be rooting for The MAVs a lot more, because I know this front office is total BS more than KP was a diva of some sort.

This franchise is like over 250 games under 500 since Mills join the F/O..and some of you were blaming players..smh

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Why do you feel that way about the NETS other than they got everything going for them, Better Owner, coach, F/O, players..

I'm sure sure if the knick were betters in all the above area's, you would feel sorry for them..

You sound like Bonn when I once claimed Jamal Crawford and Channing Frye were my favorite players. He was baffled I didn’t pick Marbury. Nerd. Lol

I hate them because I am a fan and I am allowed to and they are in Brooklyn (which I can’t stand Brooklyn anyway because it’s a pain in the absolute ass to drive through) and they made us look bad when we already looked bad. Not their fault but too bad. If you got a problem then Triple H has this for you....

Well at least your honest..

I'm actually from BKLYN, and I had no love for them when they first moved to bklyn, especially when they added KG and Paul Pierce.

I'm starting to warm up to them because I love their colors, i like the style they play and I like the direction they are going in, and the coach is pretty solid.

I'm a die hard knick fan, but I still check for other teams. Unlike you guys, i will be rooting for The MAVs a lot more, because I know this front office is total BS more than KP was a diva of some sort.

This franchise is like over 250 games under 500 since Mills join the F/O..and some of you were blaming players..smh

So your rooting for KP to succeed because your dislike for the FO of the team you root for.
Basically you prefer the knicks continue to fail so it supports your theory the FO not the players are failing.
Thats like childish. That's short sighted and Narrow. That's some childish rainman shyt right there.
You should jump to the Nets. Your not enjoying the knicks and your trying to sour on others here to justify your position.

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fwk00 wrote:My gut tells me 42 wins or more.

First, the Knicks are largely injury-proof. The depth of the roster affords the Knicks the luxury of both playing hard with pressure AND being relatively interchangeable when it comes to lineup composition. This needs some clarification though.

Randle, Porter, Dotson, RJ, Iggy, Ellington, Smith, Knox, and Bullock (once available) are all scorers requiring complementary players who don't need the ball. Peyton and Frankie define that role better than Trier and for that reason I think Trier will become trade bait. I'm not convinced his ISO-ball profile will complement this particular squad.

MR and Randle will be a force unto themselves this year. Morris and Gibson will quietly stabilize the bench.

One or both of RJ and Iggy will surprise.

Two of Dotson, Smith, Frankie, Peters, or Wooten will take their game to the next level.

By December or January, the rotation and bench will be stabilized and one or more of the redundant players on a one year deal will get dealt for a need or an upgrade. Teams who expected to compete and don't will be shedding big salary talent and teams looking to harden their rosters for the playoff run will be looking for vets. The Knicks are perfectly positioned to accommodate those scenarios.

I also think, assuming Fizdale is up to it, that the Knicks roster has the potential to really click in terms of chemistry and fit.

The Knicks will be 42-42. 7th seed first round exit and sweep.

Julius Randle will be that one constant and he will make the all star team. He will be really dang good.

RJ will get off to a rough start but will come around and start showing serious potential by game 20. He will hit a really nice rookie wall by game 55-60. By then, Knox will be much more consistent and impressive.

Mitch will be dealing with foul woes all season but when he’s on the court, he’ll be a double double machine with 2 blocks. 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks will be his averages by April.

PG situation? No f’ing clue. I want Frank to be great. I think DSJ should be a star. I think Elfrid will be a great pro and teammate. Otherwise, no f’ing clue. Not worth guessing.

Trier will average 18 points per game.

Iggy will get a LOT of bench time. Eventually, he’ll get off and play well.

F’ the Nets. They were off the list for quite awhile but they are now on the same list as the Red Sox, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Skins.

Why do you feel that way about the NETS other than they got everything going for them, Better Owner, coach, F/O, players..

I'm sure sure if the knick were betters in all the above area's, you would feel sorry for them..

You sound like Bonn when I once claimed Jamal Crawford and Channing Frye were my favorite players. He was baffled I didn’t pick Marbury. Nerd. Lol

I hate them because I am a fan and I am allowed to and they are in Brooklyn (which I can’t stand Brooklyn anyway because it’s a pain in the absolute ass to drive through) and they made us look bad when we already looked bad. Not their fault but too bad. If you got a problem then Triple H has this for you....

Well at least your honest..

I'm actually from BKLYN, and I had no love for them when they first moved to bklyn, especially when they added KG and Paul Pierce.

I'm starting to warm up to them because I love their colors, i like the style they play and I like the direction they are going in, and the coach is pretty solid.

I'm a die hard knick fan, but I still check for other teams. Unlike you guys, i will be rooting for The MAVs a lot more, because I know this front office is total BS more than KP was a diva of some sort.

This franchise is like over 250 games under 500 since Mills join the F/O..and some of you were blaming players..smh

So your rooting for KP to succeed because your dislike for the FO of the team you root for.
Basically you prefer the knicks continue to fail so it supports your theory the FO not the players are failing.
Thats like childish. That's short sighted and Narrow. That's some childish rainman shyt right there.
You should jump to the Nets. Your not enjoying the knicks and your trying to sour on others here to justify your position.

Will they be a contender - No. Can they surprise and make the playoffs, I think Yes.

Brooklyn? Its more about tthem being the Nets....F the Nets!

Hopefully, we'll be able to offload some of these players for draft assets or complimentary pieces after December 15th but I'm skeptical this front office is even competent enough to accomplish that. They overpaid our free agent signings, so I expect most of them to be waived around the deadline instead. At the very least, this will help expedite us playing our youth more minutes, which I consider to be a plus. Whether we have the infrastructure to make that process a worthwhile endeavor remains to be seen. I've been on the fence about Fizdale since he signed here but I'm more optimistic of him than this front office at the very least.