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martin
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7/27/2020 11:13 AM
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smackeddog
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7/27/2020 12:47 PM
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7/30/2020 5:21 PM
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martin
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7/31/2020 12:13 PM
I see that Marcus Morris still trying to help the Knicks out, 0-4 and 4 fouls in 19 minutes. With Lou and Harrell out for a while gotta hope that LAC loses just enough games to push them further down in the standings.
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unstopaball12
Posts: 21174 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/7/2006 Member: #1137 Philippines |
7/31/2020 12:27 PM
Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games.
It begs to question that if the mlb and nfl cancel their season due to outbreaks, how will the nba approacb next sesson |
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martin
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7/31/2020 12:49 PM
unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games. Yup. Billions of $$$ on the line. I think someone else suggested it: mini bubbles that rotate every month until further notice. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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smackeddog
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7/31/2020 1:48 PM
martin wrote:I see that Marcus Morris still trying to help the Knicks out, 0-4 and 4 fouls in 19 minutes. With Lou and Harrell out for a while gotta hope that LAC loses just enough games to push them further down in the standings. Sleeper agent! |
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smackeddog
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7/31/2020 1:52 PM LAST EDITED: 7/31/2020 1:54 PM
martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games. I suggested that, but I think the other option is- what's the rush? Why not push the start of next season back until May/June, and finish the same time as Orlando is due to finish. Everything else is going to be out of whack, so pushing it back shouldn't really make too much difference with regards to what it will be up against ratings wise and gives them more chance of being able to have people in arena's. Then aim to have the following season start January, then eventually back to October/November the year after that. If May is too long to wait for revenue, you could maybe have a mini tournament bubble or two between November and then. |
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martin
Posts: 68960 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
7/31/2020 2:08 PM
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
7/31/2020 2:48 PM
unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games.
The NBA will have no choice but to bubble up again ( at a massive expense) But it will be prohibitively expensive for a full season. The league will go for the minimum number of games to fulfill it's network contract/obligations. On the plus side, this is their chance to become the No#1 sport in the entire world except for soccer. On the negative side, so much of what the NBA does for branding relies on 20-30 individual players at any given time and if many of them go down to COVID19, this could collapse the league. The cost structure of the bubble isn't just the stuff on the surface. The massive resource pull to run a bubble season from the general population requires it's own informal tax. The NBA had to give away a ton of COVID19 tests recently and this kind of stuff will become exponential over time. They need to head off a possible PR meltdown ( i.e. why are NBA players getting so much medical priority when people are dying outside the bubble) Here's the long term problem, the NBA has to accept that the next TV contract is going to hose them. And they'll have to get a big spoon and eat the whole meal there. With owners losing massive revenue ( not just with their NBA teams, but with all of their businesses) , all NBA franchises will see a sharp overall devaluation. The businesses that buy ad time/sponsor the networks are also feeling the hit, this ripples everywhere. The networks will feel the pinch and pass that onto the NBA. To prop up the value of these franchises, a team needs to be sold at a record price. It means like taking in an owner that was previously seen as undesirable, such as Larry Ellison. The NBA's current ownership ranks do not desire ownership groups like the Bucks situation, then again, they look deeply into the line of succession. Megan Ellison would likely become the defacto owner and then would install someone like Becky Hammon to run a team. The lottery rigging would also have to accommodate new owners. COVID19 is it's own animal, but it sparks another problem, which is having multiple owners selling their teams all at once. If 3-4 franchises want to sell at once, the league will have massive problems all across the board. The tipping point will be where owners see a big immediate loss better than a catastrophic one down the road. The NBA needs to stabilize it's existing ownership base to survive. The practical course is compression. Expand rosters and require teams to play twice a day. Get in more games in a shorter period of time. They'll need to find a way to back off of PEDS testing in a way that suits PR needs. The faster the league can fulfill it's network obligations, the better for everyone involved. That means shortening the length of games and forcing teams to use massive depth. Has there ever been a 24 man NBA roster before? Well now there will be. Gentlemen, this is bad. Professional sports as we know it could completely collapse. |
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smackeddog
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7/31/2020 2:52 PM
martin wrote:smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games. The thing is, if they start in November/December, they can’t have people in the arenas so no ticket revenue, if they push it back to May, there’s a chance they can have a full season of arena’s being open (depending on a vaccine). A couple of mini tournaments in the interim should make up some revenue |
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
7/31/2020 3:11 PM
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Everything around the NBA requires insurance. The insurance industry as we know it could implode with COVID19. It's not as simple as putting up plexiglass all over an arena. There seems to be no responsible way to have fans in the stands by next season this time. As harsh as it sounds, this all becomes a math problem for the league.
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smackeddog
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7/31/2020 3:37 PM
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smackeddog
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7/31/2020 5:21 PM
I think the one mistake the nba made with Orlando was insisting on an East West playoffs, I'd much rather they just went with the 16 best teams for the playoffs - think people would have preferred watching a series with teams like the pelicans and blazers rather than the nets.
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unstopaball12
Posts: 21174 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/7/2006 Member: #1137 Philippines |
7/31/2020 10:21 PM
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Impressed with how the nba is doing with the bubble. Adam silver deserve major props for this.Players feel safe, social justice calls are being heard, the games are continuing and everyone is locked in on the games. With nothing on TV, no new movies, other sporting events cancelled. The NBA will be the only thing on TV, thus ratings will be off the roof. Premium on advertising can be charged, new revenue streams for international markets too if football will be limited |