GustavBahler wrote:Incentives can work for and against a team, if the player loses track of the big picture. Dont see that on D though. Believe Randle is going to see how Mitch gets after the ball night after night, and its going to help set the tone. Of the rosters we've seen over the last few seasons, this one looks like it might turn out to be better than billed on D.

I don't know if Randle/MitchRob is going to put the fear of God into opposing teams the way Rolo/KP did, but one can hope!

Kudos to the fishmike thread for prophesying about a Randle/Mitch front court on D. (If this works out well )

Vmart wrote:I’ll give you 20 million for scoring and we will throw in 900,000 if you play defense. SMH. Let’s keep investing in one way talent.

if u’re making 20 u want to be making 21. it’s human nature.

Vmart wrote:

Marv wrote:

Vmart wrote:I’ll give you 20 million for scoring and we will throw in 900,000 if you play defense. SMH. Let’s keep investing in one way talent.

if u’re making 20 u want to be making 21. it’s human nature.

When did basketball become commission based. The point is if 20 mill ain’t incentive enough what makes you think the 900,000 will be the motivating factor?

guys haven’t had bonus clauses forever? u’re letting this upset u? it’s a beautiful day - go outside and catch some impeachment fever!

GustavBahler wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Incentives can work for and against a team, if the player loses track of the big picture. Dont see that on D though. Believe Randle is going to see how Mitch gets after the ball night after night, and its going to help set the tone. Of the rosters we've seen over the last few seasons, this one looks like it might turn out to be better than billed on D.

I don't know if Randle/MitchRob is going to put the fear of God into opposing teams the way Rolo/KP did, but one can hope!

Kudos to the fishmike thread for prophesying about a Randle/Mitch front court on D. (If this works out well )

I dont believe they will either. Do believe Mitch patrolling the paint will make Randle's job easier though. I remember getting amped playing alongside a good shot blocker. Mitch is already a great one. Still has to learn some things about positioning. Unlike the squad that surrounded KP/Rolo, see a better defensive unit overall. Some dont have a rep for D, but I expect some players to come back with a better game on that side of the ball, like Knox and DSJr.

Kudos to fish as well, that was prescient.

newyorknewyork wrote:I've been thinking this for a little while. In terms of talent, this team is more talented than the 54 win team in 2012. They lack the experience of that team, but have more talent and more depth. Doesn't gurantee that they will come together like that team did though.

Agree with this take if you switched the word "talent" with "performance" because that better captures where the players on the 54 win team were at the time. That team had at least 3 future HOFers, and some others like KT, who used to be elite in certain aspects of their game. The talent level on that team was off the charts, but the strong performance out of the gate only lasted half a season, before the best players started literally retiring during the season.

Performancewise agree we look better and deeper. We have a lot of good young players, as opposed to some good old players. Definitely dont have the experience of the 54 win team, but availability is the best ability.

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I've been thinking this for a little while. In terms of talent, this team is more talented than the 54 win team in 2012. They lack the experience of that team, but have more talent and more depth. Doesn't gurantee that they will come together like that team did though.

Agree with this take if you switched the word "talent" with "performance" because that better captures where the players on the 54 win team were at the time. That team had at least 3 future HOFers, and some others like KT, who used to be elite in certain aspects of their game. The talent level on that team was off the charts, but the strong performance out of the gate only lasted half a season, before the best players started literally retiring during the season.

Performancewise agree we look better and deeper. We have a lot of good young players, as opposed to some good old players. Definitely dont have the experience of the 54 win team, but availability is the best ability.

This team is not more talented, not even close. Not only that, that 54 team had a system, a floor leader, role players like JR 6th man, Felton, prigs, novak, and a player that lead the league in scoring.

I Think we are going to go as far as FIZ, Randle and DSJ take us.

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I've been thinking this for a little while. In terms of talent, this team is more talented than the 54 win team in 2012. They lack the experience of that team, but have more talent and more depth. Doesn't gurantee that they will come together like that team did though.

Agree with this take if you switched the word "talent" with "performance" because that better captures where the players on the 54 win team were at the time. That team had at least 3 future HOFers, and some others like KT, who used to be elite in certain aspects of their game. The talent level on that team was off the charts, but the strong performance out of the gate only lasted half a season, before the best players started literally retiring during the season.

Performancewise agree we look better and deeper. We have a lot of good young players, as opposed to some good old players. Definitely dont have the experience of the 54 win team, but availability is the best ability.

This team is not more talented, not even close. Not only that, that 54 team had a system, a floor leader, role players like JR 6th man, Felton, prigs, novak, and a player that lead the league in scoring.

I Think we are going to go as far as FIZ, Randle and DSJ take us.

Problem is that team never was healthy enough to be a complete team because they were old. So all the pieces they had contributed at different times during the season. On paper looks like we had all these pieces but again they hardly played together for the season. Only about like 6-7 players did. Sheed played 21 games to start the season while Kmart was added to the team toward the end of the season. Amare and Shumpert missed half the season.

This team would matchup well and have the advantage at SF with Morris. This team would beat them up in the paint with the rebounders it has.