Nalod wrote:

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Nalod wrote:

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BigDaddyG wrote:

Panos wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Frank with 12 points, 5 rebs and 3 steals against New Zealand. Can't find highlights, but posters on other sites say he had a nice impact on the game.

I love that 3 of his "highlights" are misses or getting his **** blocked.

He got blocked, but the take away is that he got fouled on the play and was willing to take the contact. I think he got to the line three times, which is a big improvement.

How low we've set the bar....
This isn't even against NBA level players.

Don’t care. Sometimes you have to set the bar low. I don't care about missed shots right now. I care about him being aggressive and even though there were misses, some of those plays looked very impressive. I want to see this as something he can build from so that we can raise the bar.

He shows a more filled out frame, tighter handle, less heisitation, and better instincts. But before he was very limited so its still a guess if its NBA level or still not good enough, but just better than it was.

Impact wise the last few games Frank has been pretty much owning the comp as a 2-way player. Which is nessesary for his confidence.

When you think about it. Dude has only played 1.5 seasons of NBA ball. After coming in from overseas as I think the youngest player in the NBA at the time. He had a terrible year last yr which you don't want to see as. But he came out too early, he should have waited these 2 years to enter the draft after developing his body and game some more.

His potential as a 2-way impact player is still there. Patience can have some long term rewards with him and Knicks have from now until the end of next season to continue to build him up before they have to make a decision.

Imagine an alternate universe where some fans chide the knicks for being "Too" patient with some players.
17 wins makes everything look bad.

I don’t blame them. Worst possible case scenario is Knicks take the hit during his developmental years of trying to figure the NBA out and developing his body & game. A new team takes the flyer on him right at the time he starts to put it together. They are gonna wanna be 100% sure that he either does or doesn’t have the goods.

I always said to wait until the end of his rookie contract from when he was drafted. But his soph season was so bad that if basically shaved off a yr of patience. But he is putting in the work to improve his game. Changed his trainer, getting work done with the French team. He gotta keep working and things will sort itself out.

IM not calling you out specifically.
I want him to succeed. I want it to be in a knick uniform, not under Pop in SAS!

I know, If I were to be labled anything it would be more toward the Frank apologist side than the hater side.

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Frank with 12 points, 5 rebs and 3 steals against New Zealand. Can't find highlights, but posters on other sites say he had a nice impact on the game.

Definetely nice to see Frank break double digits. If he could do that here, the D is back as well. Should have plenty of offers for his services. And would make a strong case for sticking around.

Keep in mind he did this in 15 minutes and he had 8 points in 13 minutes. It's not so much the scoring, but the aggressiveness. He's keeping his dribble alive longer and he's taking it to the rim, through contact. Those are the little improvements I'm seeing as France builds up for the tournament. I'd like to see more three point consistency. Maybe that comes around by tournament time.

Its both. Its the lousy shooting and the lack of aggressiveness. If Frank cant manage to play well enough to earn more than 15 minutes a game. Wont be here for long. Knicks wont give Frank a new deal for that. Frsnk shows he can average double digits without it being from Jamal Crawford like volume shooting, he'll have a chance to stick. If not here than somewhere.

jrodmc wrote:Thought this was hilarious, but sort of on-spot.
Cue Nalod to pick apart MMiranda's (the author's) credentials, college and high school GPA, inablity/ability to gain access to team practices/private workouts, documented Franco-biases and possible connections to Berman:

[Why Frank made the Worst Knick Team of the Decade]

I know there are legions of you out there who post 11-tweet threads every time Frank chews gum while walking upright, always against lesser competition. On the record, I still think Ntilikina can develop into a meaningful two-way player for the Knicks. But objectively, his production his first two seasons has been poor. Very. I don’t wanna hear about that one time he was bird-dogging Kyrie, or whatever credit you think he deserves for a few possessions in a game where James Harden had 61 points, hit 67 percent of his twos and got to the line 25 times. Go tell it on the mountain. Down here in reality, we’re not interested.

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2019/8/28/20811752/august-mailbag-part-two-best-worst-and-most-fun-knicks-this-decade-playoff-paths-national-anthems

He also had Landry Fields on one of his best lists. Why not Willy? Or Wilson Chandler or Danilo? His picks seem kind of arbitrary.

Concur with Frank on "Worst" list. Kid plays defense and Age 21. Blogger getting eyeballs. Lists are stupid.
Bloggers have little Cred. Im sure some of you think wrestling and Porn are real also.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:Blog speaks for itself. "Most fun KNICK"? Lost me there.
Had to have JR on it? Melo? Win or lose he smiled. KOQ was fun. I'll give him that. Tim Hardaway JR? Why did I think if he spoke he'd sound like Chris Rock?

Concur with Frank on "Worst" list. Kid plays defense and Age 21. Blogger getting eyeballs. Lists are stupid.
Bloggers have little Cred. Im sure some of you think wrestling and Porn are real also.

Damn Nalod, you have to crap on my dreams! Well it's real to me!

Its got more reality then amateur sports bloggers illustrate!

Frank did shoot 2/2 from 3 and scored a total of 8pts but showed very little in terms of impacting the game as an orchestrator of the offence or off-the ball player.
Even on D he did not stand out vs Schröder in comp to Albicy who also did a decent job so it is very difficult to see his role on the team as Batum, Fournier and Nando de Colo are bringing a lot more to the table on and off the ball.

I am really rooting for the kid but its difficult to see something new in his game vs the past yr. Only thing might be an enhanced ball handling but he is not putting this on use to pressure the D.
He still seems to be extremly passive (he drove to the basket twice but with no affect) on offense.

Frank's Line vs Jordan: 12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31
Ntilikina vs Jordan:

12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31

3-5 FG, 2-4 3PT, 4-4 FT

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Frank's Line vs Jordan: 12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31
Ntilikina vs Jordan:

12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31

3-5 FG, 2-4 3PT, 4-4 FT

My first reaction was "Jordan who?" Second reaction "Jordan? We're talking about Jordan?"

Would put this on par with highlights of Frank vs. a JV high school squad. Guess its the "jackal" in me lol.

Would love to see Frank really turn a corner. Which means putting up the same kind of numbers against better competition. Believe Frank would have been better served spending some time with Smith jr., trying out new moves, working on his shooting, in one of those gyms where they never miss.

To be fair he stayed last summer and took a step back. He needs playing time. Even against scrubs cause he needs to figure out what works for him in game. Even if against lesser competition. Specifically he’s got to hit that 3 pt shot

fishmike wrote:

Frank's Line vs Jordan: 12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31
Ntilikina vs Jordan:

12 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, +31

3-5 FG, 2-4 3PT, 4-4 FT

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technomaster wrote:Nice hesitation dribble at :59 second mark in the video, freed himself up for a nice open shot.

It's nice to see him playing well and contributing. If he could have a bunch of games just like this one (hit a couple of 3s, make some plays near the basket, and hit some teammates for open shots...), nothing exceptional, fans would fall in love all over again and start grumbling to see more of him.

As it stands, last season was extremely damaging for fan opinion of Ntilikina, and our expectations of him are extremely low (as is his trade value).

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