arkrud wrote:Phil was last starpunch affair of Dolan who was still believing in Melo at the time.
Worked as well as all previous attempts. The clear definition of insanity or at least pathological ignorance.
Finally the boss get disinterested in pro sports as it does not work in his world of effortless pleasures.
So now he is jamming.
Don't worry be happy you midget recovering alcoholic.
And stay away from the sports please...

CrushAlot wrote:Fact: Phil Jackson was a horrible President for the Knicks. He wasted the opportunity of Being the first guy to have autonomy in the position. He wasn't just incompetent at the position, his effort was horrible. Not sure he ever realized that he couldn't just do the position because he had been a coach and saw himself as the smartest guy in the room always. Phil is the reason KP is gone.
https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/29/16041042/phil-jackson-new-york-knicks-timeline-of-sadness-9f044d137b79

+100...Can't believe we still have phil apologist on this board. He was awful and got fired, deservedly so! It' been 3 years.... time for the apologist to move on!

BTW, I actually forgot phil signed Lamar Odom while it was well known he had a serious drug problem My god phil was awful!!!

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Fact: Phil Jackson was a horrible President for the Knicks. He wasted the opportunity of Being the first guy to have autonomy in the position. He wasn't just incompetent at the position, his effort was horrible. Not sure he ever realized that he couldn't just do the position because he had been a coach and saw himself as the smartest guy in the room always. Phil is the reason KP is gone.
https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/29/16041042/phil-jackson-new-york-knicks-timeline-of-sadness-9f044d137b79

+100...Can't believe we still have phil apologist on this board. He was awful and got fired, deservedly so! It' been 3 years.... time for the apologist to move on!

BTW, I actually forgot phil signed Lamar Odom while it was well known he had a serious drug problem My god phil was awful!!!

He was just in over his head, still living in the past, surrounded himself with a bunch of Yes men that also had no experience.

When you have no experience, you will make more mistakes than successful moves.

Hiring of Phil Jackson buys James Dolan time with upset Knicks fans

By MIKE LUPICA
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
MAR 15, 2014 | 1:30 AM

Hiring of Phil Jackson buys James Dolan time with upset Knicks fans
Facing the wrath of Knicks fans, James Dolan renews their hope by conveniently hiring Phil Jackson days before a fan protest was scheduled. (Corey Sipkin/New York Daily News)
For now, it apparently will cost only $50 million or $60 million or whatever Phil Jackson is going to make off the Knicks to neutralize the protest some Knicks fans were planning outside Madison Square Garden before Wednesday night's Knicks-Pacers game, or eliminate it entirely. James L. Dolan paid a lot less when he was lobbying to make that West Side football stadium go away.
Taking the noise and steam out of that protest isn't why Dolan is bringing in Jackson to run the Knicks' basketball operation, of course. But don't think that the timing of Dolan's renewed passion for Jackson is accidental. As always, Dolan and his lieutenants confuse the obvious with genius.

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Or perhaps it is just that they have a genius for being this pathetically obvious, and predictable. First, as Deadspin.com first reported last week, there was the exciting opportunity for some Knicks season-ticket holders to be allowed into the Garden early on Wednesday night — an hour before the doors open! — for a VIP reception and access to the team's shootaround and various other goodies.
The timing of that was clearly another of those crazy coincidences you get in life sometimes. Because, let's face it, who wouldn't want to be up-close-and-personal with the Knicks team that has made Dolan this desperate to hire Jackson? It reaches the point where you were surprised that Dolan didn't show up with a sign at Saturday's Knicks-Bucks game that said, "Please Don't Blame Me."

Oh, no, you're not supposed to blame him any longer for the mess that the Knicks have become over the past 13 seasons; for the fact that once Jackson is in the house they will have had three different men — Glen Grunwald, Steve Mills, the Zen Master — running Dolan's basketball operation just since the fall.
All is supposed to be forgiven now. Jimmy's not your enemy, he's your advocate. Call off the protest, come get some goody bags, get behind Jackson, don't worry about the fact that there are no real prospects that next season will be a lot better than this one. That's just in case your ticket prices stay flat, or go up, as Knick fans continue to help pay for a renovation at the Garden that was treated like some sort of gift to them.

If you love the idea of Phil Jackson coming back to the Knicks to become the king of all basketball, you're not supposed to be mad at Jimmy anymore. That is the real message to Knicks fans here, whether they planned to attend what was nothing more than a symbolic protest or not. Please don't blame me anymore, that's the message now. Please like me. I'm giving you Phil Jackson, what more could you ingrates possibly want?
You see what is happening here? Jimmy isn't just buying Jackson. He buys time, and saves himself the embarrassment of having the protest be the news hit that it would have been a couple of weeks ago, before the Jackson tsunami.
And the best part is…hiring Phil actually might work! It's not the way to bet, certainly, Dolan has made empty promises to executives and coaches before. But all Knicks fans have now is hope that Jackson can get them out of this. They would rather have Jackson, old Knick, 11 championships as a coach, than Grunwald, even if Grunwald put together the only real season the Knicks have had since they were in the Eastern Conference finals in 2000. They would rather have anybody than Silent Steve Mills.
Mills was the one who tried to open the conversation with Jackson about the Knicks. Phil basically told him that if he was going to talk to anybody, he was going to talk to the big boss, not some underboss. Dolan came running, started making offers and promises and now here we are, big announcement on Tuesday about the biggest name in NBA coaching since Red Auerbach.
And please remember that when Sonny Werblin was running the Knicks in the old days, rather desperately himself, he nearly convinced Auerbach to come run the Knicks when they were in basically the same kind of shape they're in now.
Werblin had Auerbach on his way to Logan Airport, ready to board the Eastern Shuttle and come to New York to take the job before he changed his mind. It was just one more time when the old man showed you what a genius he really was. There was too much holding him in Boston. No such problem for Jackson with the Lakers. There was apparently nothing, other than the hopes and dreams of Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant, holding Jackson in L.A., even though he had coached the Lakers to five titles.
The Lakers didn't want him. Dolan sure did. Wanted him and needed him, in a continuing Celebrity Row, star-hugger theory of team-building. It didn't work with Isiah Thomas, it didn't work with Larry Brown after Thomas turned on him to save himself. Now you are going to hear that it will work like a charm, this trophy-wife marriage between Jimmy Dolan and Phil.
The Knicks couldn't get the best and most famous player in the whole world — LeBron — so now they hire the most famous coach, except they're not hiring him to coach, they're hiring him to be an executive for the first time in his basketball life.
They want him to do for the Knicks what Pat Riley has done for the Heat. Maybe Jackson can get as lucky as Riley did when LeBron and Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh decided they wanted to play basketball together. Riley at that point became the front-office equivalent of a lottery winner.
Jackson must feel like a lottery winner already. He was available and Dolan needed somebody or anybody so that people wouldn't keep yelling at him the way they yell at his players and coaches, because that does nothing for Jimmy's self-esteem as an owner and all-around big shot. So he gets this kind of deal and this kind of power. If he'd held out another week or so, he might have gotten Dolan to agree to move the Garden to Beverly Hills.

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So the story and the news won't be outside the Garden on Wednesday night. It will be inside, when Jackson will likely be in attendance and the crowd will go wild. And remember: If you love Phil, you've got to at least like Jimmy a little bit now, Knicks fans. Or you're sort of missing a big point here.
Now if you show up for the VIP reception on Wednesday, you'll probably get to meet Phil. Good times.
A Woodson what if, give Reese a chance & Gang was right on Revis...
-Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Because what I'm thinking is that it would have been a lot cheaper for the owner of the Garden to just pay off the protesters.
It would throw a terrible monkey wrench into everything if Mike Woodson actually coaches the Knicks into the playoffs and then throws a scare into the Pacers or the Heat, right?
Just sayin'.
-You watch some of these conference tournaments right now in college basketball, if you actually even know what conferences you're watching, and you know what you see?

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You see empty seats, from coast to coast, and thus see for yourself what greed can do to a great sport.
No kidding, who doesn't think Big East basketball when it's Xavier against Creighton at the Garden?
It wouldn't have seemed possible back in the '80s that St. John's basketball would become this kind of B-list attraction in New York City.
-Every time I think somebody other than Daisuke should be the fifth starter for the Mets this season, I remember the way he slam-dunked the Reds last September, when the Reds were still playing for something.
Does anybody on the planet really want to tee it up against the Chicago Bulls in the playoffs?
Bringing in Jackson could work for the Knicks, but right now he serves as a diversion to Dolan.
Bringing in Jackson could work for the Knicks, but right now he serves as a diversion to Dolan. (Jim McIsaac/ Getty Images)
By the way?
I thought it was a frivolous notion the first time I heard somebody suggest that Joakim Noah ought to be in the MVP conversation.
But Noah absolutely ought to be in the MVP conversation.
If you don't think he does, I refer you to last Sunday's Bulls-Heat game.
One of the crucial narrative stories of the New York baseball season might be about what the Yankee infield is going to look like by July.
If we're choosing up sides on horse-drawn carriages, I'm going with Liam Neeson every time.
What, you think I'm going against the guy from "Taken?"
Are you insane?
-Jerry Reese isn't trying to make headlines in this Giants offseason, he's clearly trying to rebuild his football team one piece at a time.
You know if these were still the "Hard Knocks" Jets, Darrelle Revis would be back and Michael Vick would be backing up Geno Smith.
But I sure do wish John Idzik had gone for Darren Sproles.
My pal Sal Paolantonio from ESPN said on the radio the other day that the Broncos need to get younger and faster in this offseason and are doing neither, even if DeMarcus Ware does play for their team now.
Does the new mayor think he's going good with the whole charter schools deal?
I know I've said this before, but "Blue Bloods" continues to be one of the best-written and best-acted shows on television.
-Ask yourself this question about coach Gregg Marshall and the 34-0 Wichita State Shockers:
If strength of schedule is so important with them, how did they make it to the Final Four last season and get a 12-point lead on the eventual national champ — Louisville — with 13 minutes to go in the semis?
One of the reasons that Wichita State can't make its schedule better is because big teams are afraid to play the Shockers.
And if they don't win it all, make 40-0 a new magic number in college basketball, don't be surprised if Rick Pitino makes it two in a row.
-Revis, that phony, keeps saying that he never wanted to leave New York and New Jersey in the first place.
Well, here's a question:
Who made him?
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As for Revis, the newest New England Patriot?
He will be working on his third team in three years, to the point where you think the guy plans to tour the country like he's Holiday on Ice.
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EnySpree wrote:To answer the first post....

Aren't we organically building a talent base? We have all our picks plus 2 of Dallas picks. We gave an incredibly stable cap situation and we have a ton of young talent. We are doing everything you are asking.

Without a drawn out post, I'll tell you this.... stop complaining and sit back and enjoy the ride.

Amen!

EnySpree wrote:To answer the first post....

Aren't we organically building a talent base? We have all our picks plus 2 of Dallas picks. We gave an incredibly stable cap situation and we have a ton of young talent. We are doing everything you are asking.

Without a drawn out post, I'll tell you this.... stop complaining and sit back and enjoy the ride.

1)First we need to get an owner who give's a sht, and knows a thing or 2 about the actually sport

2)Then we need to get a president who has more experience then an intern

3)A Gm who doesn't have to answer to an INTERN

3)then we need an actually franchise player to build around (or are we building around Knox and RJ)

4)Then you need an actually LEADER on the floor, in the locker, and off the court.

I'm trying to figure out when was the last team that won a ring that was built organically..

The Spurs and GSW maybe(in the last 25 yrs), well look at their ownership, president, GM, Coaching staff and franchise player and tell me are we even remotely close to that level.

I see why you said enjoy the ride, it's going to be a loooooooooooong long time at the rate we're going

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:To answer the first post....

Aren't we organically building a talent base? We have all our picks plus 2 of Dallas picks. We gave an incredibly stable cap situation and we have a ton of young talent. We are doing everything you are asking.

Without a drawn out post, I'll tell you this.... stop complaining and sit back and enjoy the ride.

You want to build organically

1)First we need to get an owner who give's a sht, and knows a thing or 2 about the actually sport

2)Then we need to get a president who has more experience then an intern

3)A Gm who doesn't have to answer to an INTERN

3)then we need an actually franchise player to build around (or are we building around Knox and RJ)

4)Then you need an actually LEADER on the floor, in the locker, and off the court.

I'm trying to figure out when was the last team that won a ring that was built organically..

The Spurs and GSW maybe(in the last 25 yrs), well look at their ownership, president, GM, Coaching staff and franchise player and tell me are we even remotely close to that level.

I see why you said enjoy the ride, it's going to be a loooooooooooong long time at the rate we're going

1) Knicks dont have an owner like that, and Dolan is not selling. So the rest of your points are not worth responding to.

I hope the team makes a run this year but they are much more likely to be in the 30 win range or a 75% record improvement. Difference is that I would want the team to continue on the path with key keepers like Mitch, Randle, RJ etc going into 20/21 season while you would gut the FO and Coaching staff with new philosophy and schemes and start yet again. Then you would complain about it in the following offseason again. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.