All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.”

Haven’t we been fed enough negative crap?

Sports is political but sports is NOT politics. If Marc Berman spent less time slinging mud in July, and more time researching the backstories of players under contract, perhaps his cynical take would be less bitter. Maybe not. Car crashes and controversy sells newspapers, right?

I’ve grown weary of Knicks bashers, who reflexively go negative at every opportunity.
While Berman writes about a “culture change” perhaps he should look at his own publication.
Yeesh.

misterearl wrote:“What sort of culture Fizdale has built is unclear. Sadly, Mills and Perry have gone dark, too. Of the seven new signees, six are guaranteed for just one season. The way it has worked out, the revolving door may continue.

All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.”

Haven’t we been fed enough negative crap?

Sports is political but sports is NOT politics. If Marc Berman spent less time slinging mud in July, and more time researching the backstories of players under contract, perhaps his cynical take would be less bitter. Maybe not. Car crashes and controversy sells newspapers, right?

I’ve grown weary of Knicks bashers, who reflexively go negative at every opportunity.
While Berman writes about a “culture change” perhaps he should look at his own publication.
Yeesh.

Completely agree. Berman is front and center, but is hardly alone. It's reflexive, cheap and easy, and apparently cool to shovel s#!t onto the Knicks. ESPN for sure and local ESPN radio are impossible for me to listen to regarding the Knicks as it is only negativity (excepting Alan Hahn). I'm not asking or expecting anything close to homerism but the bias is so pronounced -- and ignorant. The "highlight" for me was the Knicks getting raked across the coals for "losing" the lottery, as if there was some lack of moral fiber that caused the ping pong balls to go against them. And when we picked an excellent prospect in Barrett it was more about losing out on Zion, and then RJ was of course "a bust" after two summer league games. And the outcry that they wouldn't sign a crippled Kevin Durant and problem child Kyrie Irving to max contracts and how the Nets will own the town...and so on.

I'm guessing it is coming from despising Dolan, residual Phil hate, and that it is perceived that this is what fans want to read and hear. The last being unfortunately true in so many cases as we see here.

SupremeCommander wrote:Bermanbury sucks, let's be clear, but come on. Really? It isn't sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops and that's what makes it bad? Hate to break it to you but this year is gonna be tough, and we purged our roster of everyone.. part of last year was supposedly to develop one of the many former lotto picks we signed. To me, that's more on the FO than the coach but hey, that **** stinks either way

No one is asking for sunshine and rainbows. But is is problematic that there is much more rational, data driven and factual discussion on a fan forum than from both regional and global sports media outlets not to mention an TV Network dedicated specifically to the NBA. What you are stating regarding roster purge is also misleading.......

Knicks retained a core of 6 guys: Frank, DSJ, Knox, Trier, Mitch and Dotson

The "many" former lotto picks signed last year on one year deals were only Mario and Mudiay....not sure which one you wanted to keep but IMO better to move on at this point after seeing them night in and out. They are perhaps nice pieces to take a chance on in adding to an already solid established roster.

So what did we do? We kept those who improved and got rid of those who didn't really improve. Those got replaced by better players with more upside. I don't see anything criminal here, actually sounds like a decent strategy. Could the development have been better? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's nonexistent.

BigDaddyG wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:Bermanbury sucks, let's be clear, but come on. Really? It isn't sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops and that's what makes it bad? Hate to break it to you but this year is gonna be tough, and we purged our roster of everyone.. part of last year was supposedly to develop one of the many former lotto picks we signed. To me, that's more on the FO than the coach but hey, that **** stinks either way

The goal was to develop talent anyway we can. That includes free agency, the draft and second drafters. Is it fair to note that we didn't keep Vonleh, Mudiay, Kornet or Mario. Yes. But you have to look at the other side too. All those guys were considered marginal to begin with. Isn't fair to say that the fact that they are still in the league means that we were able to develop them from a certain standpoint. We still suck, so it would make since that we keep bringing in guys until we find one we stick. We simply brought in better players. The hope is that we do find keepers at one point. I wanted Vonleh to stay, but Randle is better. I didn't want Mudiay to stay and, thankfully, we brought in a better player in Payton. It's okay to have a slant. The problem is these articles conveniently leave out the other side

again, I think the article is crap... I think it got written because the writers are not getting any content from the coaches or management. I'm sure the editors are screaming at Berman for something.

But, again, I don't think the article is completely without merit. Yes I do think you need to point out that no one was beating the doors down for these guys... but to just shoot it down because its 'negative'? that's what I take exception with

Berman's a clown, always has been. And the media here are all anti-Knicks (that evil nasty idiot control freak Dolan and his old effin money!), give us Nets highlights! They haven't won a chip, but almost! The rivalry is ON!!! Look at that shiny new Barclays! They make the playoffs! And they lose better in the playoffs then the Knicks ever did! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Met's on a 4 game winning streak! Bring on Tom Seaver night! Look at that trade! Strohman gonna get us the bread! Yeah man! Evil empire Yankees, Meet the Mets! 6 games out of the wild card! Practically won a trip to the World Series already! Good feelings! Anything to get those machine-like filthy capitalist Cashman/Steinbrenner pinstripes off the back page! (How bout them Red Sox, anyway???? Remember Bill Buckner? Good times! We love the Red Sox!) Yankees winning 30 in a row, but we'll play 3 minute clips of how we barely lost to the Dodgers!

J-E-T-S J-E-T-S We spell our team! Sure, we only have one Lombardi trophy, but sheehit, Eli's old! And they traded away OBJ! Who the eff wants to watch old Blue anymore?? We're the up and coming red headed step brother!

I would estimate that Berman has the most negative Knick headlines of any reporter. On a national scale, I’d guess he has a higher percentage of negative posts than any other regular beat writer.

And that isn’t a function of winning or losing. It’s about framing. “Knicks Sign Cap Friendly Deals” vs “Knicks Plan to Continue Revolving Door of Players”. Because I love the numbers and the cap aspect of basketball, I see these contracts as huge value add deals WITH the benefit of adding solid role player bets. Our practice games will be great.

If there is a real bias (as it “feels like”), the Post should tone it down. They don’t have to. But I don’t think tabloids should get the same media rights as other news organizations. Knicks should have the right to combat bias as they see fit.

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

anrst wrote:how much do you think the post pays him?

Enough. He's been there for ages.

So was Milton in OfficeSpace...my stapler!!!