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franco12
Posts: 33215 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
7/25/2019 4:10 PM
28th is where cleveland finished last year- so I want to call BS on this - so looking back, the best finish in the last 10 years or so for the 28th team was 26 wins.
I just think with our signings - and development- assuming no wholesale injuries - we have to be looking at a 10 game improvement at least - 28-30. Bare minimum. SO say after this off season that this team will only win a few more games than last year - is completely stupid. |
Nalod
Posts: 68750 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
7/25/2019 4:54 PM
Some of you arbitrarily demand we do better? If the knicks win 70% more games next year..... SEVENTY PERCENT IMPROVEMENT.......WE WIN 29 GAMES. Say you fire everyone. Do pull an Isiah/Donnie/Grusnwald and make playoffs with weak ass runs, or "Rebuild the right way"? |
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
7/25/2019 6:44 PM
jrodmc wrote:GustavBahler wrote:toodarkmark wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Biased journalism at its worst. Just more clickbait, to sell adds, to promote a certain brand of Knicks hate. We were a lock for 27! Guess thats before IBM sold part of their business to what became Lenovo. Maybe they would of had better luck if they built some mfing flying cars!!! And where is the %&@#% HOJO in space we were promised??? |
Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
7/27/2019 2:48 AM
jrodmc wrote:toodarkmark wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Biased journalism at its worst. Just more clickbait, to sell adds, to promote a certain brand of Knicks hate. We were a lock for 27! well he's toodarkmark...comes from a dark storyline :) Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Panos
Posts: 29311 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
7/28/2019 8:52 AM
Apparently, it's not only ESPN who think so, but also the Vegas bookies think the Knicks won't break 30 wins. They biased too? Or are you?
I'm taking the "under". None of the oddsmakers envision the Knicks reaching 30 victories. https://nypost.com/2019/07/28/las-vegas-oddsmakers-dont-think-knicks-will-reach-30-wins/ |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/28/2019 10:55 AM
Panos wrote:Apparently, it's not only ESPN who think so, but also the Vegas bookies think the Knicks won't break 30 wins. They biased too? Or are you?I think the win total is realistic and I don't think the Vegas odds makers are biased. I went back and looked at the write ups for teams quickly. The Knick write up is the only write up that bashes a team. Some say things like in rebuilding mode, will be a long winter etc but Bontempts went with the easy narrative more than assessing the team. Hitting 29 wins with a team as young as the Knicks puts them where the Hawks were at the end of this past season. I don't think predicting that is biased. The 28th ranked team in the league last year won 19 games. ESPN's Knick coverage has sucked. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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GoNyGoNyGo
Posts: 23559 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/29/2003 Member: #411 USA |
7/28/2019 12:13 PM
its really simple NY replaced 7 non-NBA ready players with NBA vets They will be better
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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
7/28/2019 3:10 PM
Personally i love the commitment to the rebuild. You hold on to your top 6 teen and early 20’s guys, draft the best prospect at #3, move up in the 2nd round to take a guy who looks like he really belongs and sign 3 young guys in free agency. All while holding onto your 6 #1’s over the next 4 years. I love this plan and am happy to root like hell for them to succeed.
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
7/28/2019 7:40 PM
franco12 wrote:28th is where cleveland finished last year- so I want to call BS on this - so looking back, the best finish in the last 10 years or so for the 28th team was 26 wins. As Knicks fans, we hope for the best. We hope for the ideal situation. Can the Knicks win 10 more games this year? They'll need luck and help. As you mentioned, they'll need unprecedented health. Big men tend to have more injury problems than any other kind of player, so this can be a problem as the Knicks signed a bunch of bigs. They'll need a major breakout by Randle. They'll need injuries and attrition by other Eastern teams. They'll need to overcome issues with defense and floor spacing. They'll need a reliable secondary scorer after Randle. They'll need to excel in transition and convert at an unprecedented rate with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. Payton and Randle having some previous rapport will help some. Morris is going to cost the Knicks a lot of ref calls. Gibson is going to run this team in the locker room and it remains to be seen if he can keep guys like Trier and DSJr in line. ( Actually get them to pass the damn ball...) You can get "space" so you must try to get "pace" They are going to have to try to run the other teams off the floor. A lot will ride on Randle being the primary scorer and his ability to be consistent even with other teams bracketing him defensively in their game plans. To get those 10 games, the Knicks will need like 15 individual things that are unlikely to go their way. It's not impossible, but it's resting more on hope than anything else. |
blkexec
Posts: 27851 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
7/29/2019 1:35 AM
Marv wrote:Personally i love the commitment to the rebuild. You hold on to your top 6 teen and early 20’s guys, draft the best prospect at #3, move up in the 2nd round to take a guy who looks like he really belongs and sign 3 young guys in free agency. All while holding onto your 6 #1’s over the next 4 years. I love this plan and am happy to root like hell for them to succeed. +1 to your post and signature. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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nykshaknbake
Posts: 22247 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/15/2003 Member: #492 |
7/29/2019 7:39 AM
TripleThreat wrote:franco12 wrote:28th is where cleveland finished last year- so I want to call BS on this - so looking back, the best finish in the last 10 years or so for the 28th team was 26 wins. 10 more wins really isn't a high bar. I think if all things roll our way we are way above that mark. If like a third of the x factors pan out, you probably are looking at 30 wins. This team just doesn't have the look of a 17 win team now. Not saying its a great or fearsome team but just not historically bad. |