“Perry had a Plan B, and Mills had his back. They have created the rudiments of a culture and player development. Brought in real talent to contribute to the incremental resuscitation of the franchise.  Sean Marks is much farther ahead, but he’s got a year or two in Perry. 
 
If the Knicks stay true to the plan, and they seem to be, then we need to show incremental but significant growth. 
 
I think with big, athletic young pups like Randle and Portis, a PG on the rise like Payton, and solid vets like Gibson, Ellington and Bullock, we are adding real talent and a degree of professionalism. 
 
I think New York fans are going to be very pleasantly surprised by Randle and Portis, whom I was campaigning for, in my insignificant way. 
 
Why did we give Payton 8 million and Gibson 10 million when Mudiay, Vonleh, Kornet and Herzonja signed for minimum or low MCE. 
 
Who is likely to have a better effect on Mitch and Knox than then TAJ?
 
Advantage GIBSON.  Taj brings the Knicks something they have not had since Kurt Thomas.  In terms of game, toughness and temperament.  Oh, and DEFENSE. 
 
I liked Mudiay, and how he grew, and I am thrilled he is on Utah for the minimum, as playing with Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley will be fantastic for his continued growth curve. 
 
Mudiay or Payton?  Payton doles out more assists, is more efficient at getting to the rack, and a better defender.  He will make Smith (who has a world of talent), and Frank (still finding his niche) play for their ****ing lives. 
 
Advantage PAYTON. 
 
Kornet or PORTIS?  Two stretch four/centers.  Portis is a better 3-point shooter and rebounder, just tougher, more consistent, has greater experience and is way farther along.  And I liked Kornet. 
 
Advantage PORTIS. 
 
Vonleh or RANDLE.  Come on.  I liked Noah, and what he gave us, bur Randle is a significant step up in talent, offensively, inside and out, better passer, better three point shooter, better rebounder, more physical presence.  Vonleh was a good role player, and will contine to be.  Randle has an opportunity to be SPECIAL. 
 
Advantage RANDLE. 
 
Herzonja or BULLOCK.  I liked Mario and had a rooting interest, and I was proud of how he played the last month or so, but he was so up and down, so ****ing inconsistent, and whereas Reggie shot close to 40% from trey, Mario was inexplicably around 25%, which is odd, seeing as how that is a strength.  And while Mario showed some toughness on D against LeBron, Bullock is more the template for what the Knicks see going forward in RJ, least ways, in his tadpole stages, though James Harden/Kobe are what RJ suggest, aspires to.  And Bullock is a tough defender, another area where RJ has to get to the next level. 
 
Advantage BULLOCK. 
 
Might just as well say Hardaway or Ellington. Wayne is a better three point shooter, and has carved out a specialist’s niche.”

-Chip Stern
“To be a Knicks fan is to suffer”

misterearl wrote:(With permission from my friend)

“Perry had a Plan B, and Mills had his back. They have created the rudiments of a culture and player development. Brought in real talent to contribute to the incremental resuscitation of the franchise.  Sean Marks is much farther ahead, but he’s got a year or two in Perry. 
 
If the Knicks stay true to the plan, and they seem to be, then we need to show incremental but significant growth. 
 
I think with big, athletic young pups like Randle and Portis, a PG on the rise like Payton, and solid vets like Gibson, Ellington and Bullock, we are adding real talent and a degree of professionalism. 
 
I think New York fans are going to be very pleasantly surprised by Randle and Portis, whom I was campaigning for, in my insignificant way. 
 
Why did we give Payton 8 million and Gibson 10 million when Mudiay, Vonleh, Kornet and Herzonja signed for minimum or low MCE. 
 
Who is likely to have a better effect on Mitch and Knox than then TAJ?
 
Advantage GIBSON.  Taj brings the Knicks something they have not had since Kurt Thomas.  In terms of game, toughness and temperament.  Oh, and DEFENSE. 
 
I liked Mudiay, and how he grew, and I am thrilled he is on Utah for the minimum, as playing with Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley will be fantastic for his continued growth curve. 
 
Mudiay or Payton?  Payton doles out more assists, is more efficient at getting to the rack, and a better defender.  He will make Smith (who has a world of talent), and Frank (still finding his niche) play for their ****ing lives. 
 
Advantage PAYTON. 
 
Kornet or PORTIS?  Two stretch four/centers.  Portis is a better 3-point shooter and rebounder, just tougher, more consistent, has greater experience and is way farther along.  And I liked Kornet. 
 
Advantage PORTIS. 
 
Vonleh or RANDLE.  Come on.  I liked Noah, and what he gave us, bur Randle is a significant step up in talent, offensively, inside and out, better passer, better three point shooter, better rebounder, more physical presence.  Vonleh was a good role player, and will contine to be.  Randle has an opportunity to be SPECIAL. 
 
Advantage RANDLE. 
 
Herzonja or BULLOCK.  I liked Mario and had a rooting interest, and I was proud of how he played the last month or so, but he was so up and down, so ****ing inconsistent, and whereas Reggie shot close to 40% from trey, Mario was inexplicably around 25%, which is odd, seeing as how that is a strength.  And while Mario showed some toughness on D against LeBron, Bullock is more the template for what the Knicks see going forward in RJ, least ways, in his tadpole stages, though James Harden/Kobe are what RJ suggest, aspires to.  And Bullock is a tough defender, another area where RJ has to get to the next level. 
 
Advantage BULLOCK. 
 
Might just as well say Hardaway or Ellington. Wayne is a better three point shooter, and has carved out a specialist’s niche.”

-Chip Stern
“To be a Knicks fan is to suffer”

Great post man...I agree 100%

knicks1248 wrote:It has potential, but it's going to need some damn good coaching to make it all work