Mitch might come off the bench to start.

Portis,Mitch
Randle, taj
Knox,bullock,Iggy
Barrett,zo,Dot
DSJR,Frank,Allen

If Barrett is a beast out of the box this team is playoff bound.

Hugely improved from last year

Still think we sign a third string PF and Center to fill out the roster .

Don’t underestimate frank in his third year 20/21 is when guards start to get it, just look at DLO he was aweful and considered a bust after year two, now look at him signing a Max with the warriors

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Very satisfied with the free agency results.
No malcontents, no albatross contracts, no overpaying.
Great job by FO in another step into right direction.
Respect.

95% of knicks fans disagree, we are currently the biggest laughing stock on social media, and every single sport show across the board has labeled us losers x100.

So far no Team IN the NBA has overpaid for anyone, in fact you have a few players that took less so their respected teams can add more..

Next yrs Draft class and FA class will be the worst in decades..

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Very satisfied with the free agency results.
No malcontents, no albatross contracts, no overpaying.
Great job by FO in another step into right direction.
Respect.

95% of knicks fans disagree, we are currently the biggest laughing stock on social media, and every single sport show across the board has labeled us losers x100.

So far no Team IN the NBA has overpaid for anyone, in fact you have a few players that took less so their respected teams can add more..

Next yrs Draft class and FA class will be the worst in decades..

KD is a bitch. Irving is a headcase. They will not win in Brooklyn. Kyrie will have a tough year on his own.

Front office improved big weak spots. Randle is solid and has been. Vonleh is a project and is not on his level. Portis produces when he plays.

NY needs DSj and Frank to step up and be a very good tandem. If that can happen - the team will be solid at all spots.

Defense is the key and if they don't play D this year, that is on the coach.

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Very satisfied with the free agency results.
No malcontents, no albatross contracts, no overpaying.
Great job by FO in another step into right direction.
Respect.

95% of knicks fans disagree, we are currently the biggest laughing stock on social media, and every single sport show across the board has labeled us losers x100.

So far no Team IN the NBA has overpaid for anyone, in fact you have a few players that took less so their respected teams can add more..

Next yrs Draft class and FA class will be the worst in decades..

If you didn't notice all signing are for 2 years so next year draft is considered irrelevant by FO.
We are targeting the 2 year window for development and cleaning the space in 2020/2021.
The expectations are shifted forward and if FO will not be able to deliver in 2021/2022 you will have all rights to bash them and org to fire them.
It goes for the whole team including GM, Pres, and coaching stuff.
Of course the bright-weather fans are disappointed and will flock out to enjoy the winning.
This is understandable and frankly we do not need them here in NY fan base.
We don't mind the crowd jumping around. It is the nature of 95% to be clueless.
The world is always moved forward by 5% who understand the reality and act accordingly.

And no, it's not because of KD and Kyrie. In fact, I think we may have dodged bullets with one or both of them for all of the reasons stated above

The reason I don't like the moves is because the guys we are getting, we are getting for a reason; they are not team transformational talents; they are guys that current teams didn't want and we're not getting any bargains. The only bargains in FA are transformational players or if you believe your FO has that special eye for talent in a system you can get a bargain there too. We will likely move out of the lottery (not good) and be looking to dump these guys in 2 years to chase the next pipe dream (Giannis)

If our current process is building through the draft we should have pulled some of the deals other teams did eg Iggy

If our current team strategy is defense, passing, and smart players we probably scored a D+ or C-

So I'm happy we dodged bullets; happy the deals are only 2 years. Honestly things could have gone worse. But there is no way to realistically spin this as positive. We have these guys because we need to reach the cap floor, and the FO and CS are desperate to get some more wins to save their jobs. Sorry to be such a downer on this; just calling it like I see it

We got Perry from Sacramento for no compensation; mull that over. His resume is Orlando and Sacramento -- ouch. He thought Mario was a good player not once but twice. I am very happy with his Mitch pick and Alonzo but overall supremely skeptical of the FO and this both are desperate to retain their jobs. Does anyone honestly think that when they are fired from Knicks either will have a president or GM gig in the future?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:Very satisfied with the free agency results.
No malcontents, no albatross contracts, no overpaying.
Great job by FO in another step into right direction.
Respect.

95% of knicks fans disagree, we are currently the biggest laughing stock on social media, and every single sport show across the board has labeled us losers x100.

So far no Team IN the NBA has overpaid for anyone, in fact you have a few players that took less so their respected teams can add more..

Next yrs Draft class and FA class will be the worst in decades..

No Rainman most knick fans arent doom and gloom like you. They understand that in years past we would throw away all our picks or cap space for injury prone players or headcases. I know you hate that we are building through the draft but its the best move in the longrun. We are building a solid young core but also adding good support around them. Sure they may not be the "sexy" names but they will help a lot. We also keeps our assets and financial flexibility for the future so when we do get a BIG Free agent we will be in even better shape

You said the same thing when we drafted KP, Willy and frank and we signed THJ, where are they now..YOUNG CORES STAY TOGETHER WHEN THEY ARE WINNING..not when the winning % is .308..are you in denial about that

If rules state you can only trade 1 pick in 3 yrs why are you acting like the FO did wonders...lol

When was the LAST TIME THE NETS had Lottery picks and Cap money, they just made the P/O and had just as Much money as we did...

You and I both know that KD and Kyrie's contracts will have expire and the knicks will be no closer to a championship..

Chandler wrote:
I can't give the Knicks FO a good mark for this FA.

And no, it's not because of KD and Kyrie. In fact, I think we may have dodged bullets with one or both of them for all of the reasons stated above

The reason I don't like the moves is because the guys we are getting, we are getting for a reason; they are not team transformational talents; they are guys that current teams didn't want and we're not getting any bargains. The only bargains in FA are transformational players or if you believe your FO has that special eye for talent in a system you can get a bargain there too. We will likely move out of the lottery (not good) and be looking to dump these guys in 2 years to chase the next pipe dream (Giannis)

If our current process is building through the draft we should have pulled some of the deals other teams did eg Iggy

If our current team strategy is defense, passing, and smart players we probably scored a D+ or C-

So I'm happy we dodged bullets; happy the deals are only 2 years. Honestly things could have gone worse. But there is no way to realistically spin this as positive. We have these guys because we need to reach the cap floor, and the FO and CS are desperate to get some more wins to save their jobs. Sorry to be such a downer on this; just calling it like I see it

We got Perry from Sacramento for no compensation; mull that over. His resume is Orlando and Sacramento -- ouch. He thought Mario was a good player not once but twice. I am very happy with his Mitch pick and Alonzo but overall supremely skeptical of the FO and this both are desperate to retain their jobs. Does anyone honestly think that when they are fired from Knicks either will have a president or GM gig in the future?

You are all over the place.
You state that we actually did everything correctly considering next year weak FA and draft and interesting opportunities coming in 2 years.
But at the same time you complain we did not get more assets like NBA teams are lining up to give it to us for nothing (as we have nothing to offer yet).
The development stage we are in required our young players to play for the win and so we get reinforcements and vets to balance the roster.
We also managed to get more prospects to increase the probability of getting good player or good trade asset.
So set you mind straight on what the goals and abilities are. This will put all in place.

The Knicks are still required to spend about $8M more -- but doesn't have to be right now - before the end of the season. Could look for a bargain basement deal and leave about $11mm of cap flexibility to be opportunistic this year.

Going to have a decision to make on Smith, Jr this year. Not sure Trier is the answer at starting PG -- I like him as the instant offense super sub. So, I would guess they go after Isaiah Thomas with their leftover funds.

Seems odd that we are delighted that they didn't make a Noah type signing. That's our threshold for approval.

Last point, I probably would not have been excited about giving KP a super max extension. He certainly has the potential to earn it out, but he didn't earn it yet, imo. So, that trade was still ok in my book. DSJ has this year to earn it out. Hopefully Dallas will flail and those draft picks will become valuable.

I don't see this team winning more thant 25-30 games this season, with the upside being some magical scenario where all these players develop together quickly and knock our socks off.