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fishmike
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10/9/2019  12:06 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dallas opens preseason with back to back? They held out Doncic and KP.
Im ashamed to admit I want KP to fail at some level. The pain of him in an MVP conversation all season long will hurt despite the logic that existed at the time of the trade.

I don't mind if KP succeeds down the line. I just need him to fail terribly in the near future while the Knicks own Mavs draft picks.

KP gotta do what makes him happy. If he couldn't find happiness in NY so be it. Hopefully the pieces brought back in the trade like Smith, the draft picks, and the flexible cap space opened up with the deal brings us Knicks fans happiness. Mitch already has filled the void for big man of the future.

Barrett/Mitch vs Doncic/KP matchups will be great TV in a few yrs.(Hopefully)

The bold! Losing KP is incredibly painful. This was a disaster. We should be building around a Mitch/KP frontcourt, a Frank/RJ backcourt, wings like Dotson/Knox/Trier and be building one of the longest best defensive teams in the league. Instead we have DSjr and a couple picks we hopefully get lucky with.

So it goes. I dont really care where the blame lies. I do know that even good orgs have players bolt for various reasons. The good orgs rebound. I like our offseason. I like our future assets. KP was a sell low. Could fail for Dallas. Could be the move that solidifies them as a top team for the next decade. IS what it is for the Knicks. Hopefully the made the best of the bad situation and we dont whiff on our assets.

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10/9/2019  8:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/9/2019  8:48 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

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10/9/2019  10:20 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

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10/10/2019  5:29 AM

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

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10/10/2019  8:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/10/2019  8:37 AM
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

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10/10/2019  8:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/10/2019  8:38 AM
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

They are going to miss the playoffs. Barring a trade of course which is possible

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10/10/2019  8:44 AM
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Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Then he got injured and missed 1.5 yrs. Cant demand winning if your not actively participating in winning.

All the young and veteran talent we have on this roster currently is due to discipline over the yrs. With flexibility to continue to add more or higher level talent.

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10/10/2019  8:48 AM
Also can’t have it both ways. Can’t cry that he isn’t worth max because he gets tired, shoots 43%,doesn’t rebound enough, and gets injured. But then treat him like hes KG or Duncan or Dirk when he wants to leave cuz the team isn’t winning.
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10/10/2019  8:55 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Then he got injured and missed 1.5 yrs. Cant demand winning if your not actively participating in winning.

All the young and veteran talent we have on this roster currently is due to discipline over the yrs. With flexibility to continue to add more or higher level talent.

But flexibility is turning into a revolving door dude, you think flipping your roster every 90 to 120 days is the path to winning..Sorry but stability is the KEY

Do you want Players seeing their name in trade rumors every other day, players playing for contracts instead of the team..

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10/10/2019  8:59 AM
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

18 point on 18 shots and ESPN says KP puts on the show. Sounds about right
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10/10/2019  9:11 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Then he got injured and missed 1.5 yrs. Cant demand winning if your not actively participating in winning.

All the young and veteran talent we have on this roster currently is due to discipline over the yrs. With flexibility to continue to add more or higher level talent.

But flexibility is turning into a revolving door dude, you think flipping your roster every 90 to 120 days is the path to winning..Sorry but stability is the KEY

Do you want Players seeing their name in trade rumors every other day, players playing for contracts instead of the team..

It’s NY with fans like you following it. There will always be trade rumors. That comes with the media market here. Knicks have to do what’s best for the long term health of the Knicks.

Knicks based off their discipline over the years have built one of their best collections of talent since the 54 win season. And deeper collections of talent than the Layden, Isaiah and Walsh yrs. Without having a jacked up cap or owing any future picks. Not only that but are actually owed 2 future first.

When they do start winning consistently. It will be because of these sacrifices and discipline displayed. AKA the process. The same process you whine about every step of the way.

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10/10/2019  9:23 AM
fishmike wrote:
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

18 point on 18 shots and ESPN says KP puts on the show. Sounds about right

He still looked tentative, but he moved well. He'll never be a hanger and it looks like the mid-range will forever be a part of his arsenal. But he and Luka looked good. I expect great things from them duri g the first 20 games of the season.

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10/10/2019  9:53 AM
I used to be such a big fan of KP. I still think his brother became a very bad influence to him because he seemed like he was really pumped to be in NY. When he skipped that exit meeting t was a real red flag and I do think it was his brother. I mean even Melo went and met with Phil and the Knicks FO despite having issues. At least he wanted to be here. KP despite being hurt and missing over 1.5 years was treated like a franchise player by the Knicks then he just all of a sudden doesn't want to be here. Its not even like he at least came back this year to see hw things would go he just forced our hand. But anyway Im over it. Im happy we have a mixture of veteran/youngsters who WANT to be here. Im glad we are done with prima donnas especially ones who are always injured
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10/10/2019  10:26 AM
The game highlight looked good. Impressed by his putback. Loved that about him. Good timing and knack for the ball.
One game, 18 minutes and he took a lot of shots! preseason. Was it a show? Hype machine might sell it.
His first game in 20 months. I'll move on soon enough. IM just prepared for media onslaught if he does well.

Knicks own all their picks and owed 2 first rounders. Knicks used to be cooler when we had none of that. There will be trades, there will be upside surprise and down side.
KP was a regrettable downside issue.

Timmy is on that team. This should be interesting.

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10/10/2019  10:37 AM
fishmike wrote:
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

18 point on 18 shots and ESPN says KP puts on the show. Sounds about right

And they lost

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10/10/2019  10:39 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Then he got injured and missed 1.5 yrs. Cant demand winning if your not actively participating in winning.

All the young and veteran talent we have on this roster currently is due to discipline over the yrs. With flexibility to continue to add more or higher level talent.

But flexibility is turning into a revolving door dude, you think flipping your roster every 90 to 120 days is the path to winning..Sorry but stability is the KEY

Do you want Players seeing their name in trade rumors every other day, players playing for contracts instead of the team..

It’s NY with fans like you following it. There will always be trade rumors. That comes with the media market here. Knicks have to do what’s best for the long term health of the Knicks.

Knicks based off their discipline over the years have built one of their best collections of talent since the 54 win season. And deeper collections of talent than the Layden, Isaiah and Walsh yrs. Without having a jacked up cap or owing any future picks. Not only that but are actually owed 2 future first.

When they do start winning consistently. It will be because of these sacrifices and discipline displayed. AKA the process. The same process you whine about every step of the way.

The process started 5 yrs ago when we got KP after tanking, and we have tanked every yr since.

Hopefully that changes this yr, but you and I both know that if we are 9, 10, 11 games under 500 by JANUARY we will go into full tank mode like the last 5 seasons, trade rumors will fly, everyone loses focus, media starts pounding, trust..you have seen the movie before, part 1 through 5

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10/10/2019  10:39 AM
smackeddog wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

18 point on 18 shots and ESPN says KP puts on the show. Sounds about right

And they lost

Fuck KP and the horse he rode on.

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10/10/2019  10:55 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Gudris wrote:

Just chill, cant wait to boo him in the Garden?

18 point on 18 shots and ESPN says KP puts on the show. Sounds about right

And they lost

Fuck KP and the horse he rode on.

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10/10/2019  12:20 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Wow. That's out and out crazy talk.

Anyway . . .

2017 starts out with kp surrounded by vets in the starting lineup - kanter, haradaway, jack, lee. Sessions actually started the 1st 3 then jack from there on. Kp starts off with a bang. 29 and 8 on 48% 2's and 36% 3's in october, knicks are 3-3 (3-0 with jack).

By november kp's already starting his yearly tailoff pattern . 24.6 and 6 on .46 and .42 for the month. Knicks are 8-7 for the month, 11-10 overall.

December he's 22 and 7 on .41 and .32. knicks go 7-8, 18-18 on the year.

January: 20 and 7 on .42 and .46. knicks are 5-11, 23-29 overall.

Kp goes down on feb 6, knicks go 6-24 rest of way to finish 29-53

Knicks then add knox, robinson, trier, give vonleh, mudiay, hezonia a shot. Kp's out for the year. Zion's on the board. Capspace is coming up. They tell kp let's hold off on extending so we'll have +10M for free agents. I still don't understand how anyone doesn't get it that tanking and youth development were the objects for the year. Both accomplished. That's what's going to turn this franchise around - the return of kp, developing young guys, free agents, a high draft pick. Let's go.

Kp's in - until he's not. Bang - kp and janis: we're out. Trade us to one of these 4 teams or we're off to europe now and we ain't signing. Knicks - F U, enjoy texas and then get the best deal in the face of the turncoat move.

Present time - we're loaded with young promising guys, great complement of vets, draft picks to come. No bloated-contract, injured, lockerroom cancer "stars." In the face of kp's defection, couldn't have turned out better.

That's the universe i live in.

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10/10/2019  12:23 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again.

Think this is a good analogy.

Except you forgot to mention a little bit about yourself. Your a guy that hasn't done anything in 19 years. NO good looking girl wants anything to do with you. Your main man is a fat little man with a Napoleon complex who knows very little except for burgers, pizza and jazz clubs. Your out of shape, ugly and completely disfunctional. You thought you were cool a few years ago bringing out dance moves from the 90s. Only to become a laughing stock. All you like to do is brag about how good you were in the 70s. Problem is, no one gives a **** anymore.

Fact is NY, Dolan, Uncle Phil and Mills ****ed up one of the few relationships worth a damn in the last 20 years. Sure many will act like it was him not us. Probably the same that booed him draft night only to jock on the bandwagon later on. Should we keep crying about it...hell no. But lets not pretend it was caused by the kid, kids brother or injury and not by the **** show management we all know all to well. Kid will ne a beast. And another major mistake by this recent FO. Hopefully we can recover quickly from it.

really? i don’t quite get this. what exactly did the knicks ever do except kiss kp’s ass from the first day of starting him and making him the next great thing? in fact phil got his ass escorted out the second he started throwing any shade toward prince kp. i highly dispute your take. this team and this town were offered on a silver platter to kp and he and his family totally screwed the pooch and as a result can enjoy their exile to the cattle state.

You forgot the MAIN reason he wasn't interested, and that's because you were not paying attention or listing.

The TWO brothers(prior to the end of the 2017/18 season in march) told NYC and the F/O that he wanted to see improvement, he wanted to see them take winning serious, and they said fck you, were are going to lose, and were going to lose big time, we are running the show here, if you don't like it, KICK ROCKS.

If they were kissing his ass, they would have hired a more experience coach, assembled a better roster, find a way to mend relations with Melo, and build from there...

Mills is Phil without the triangle and twitter...

Have you ever seen PERRY give a press conference without steve mills..maybe once

Did you ever see steve mills (the GM) give a press conference without Phil jackson..NEVER

Then he got injured and missed 1.5 yrs. Cant demand winning if your not actively participating in winning.

All the young and veteran talent we have on this roster currently is due to discipline over the yrs. With flexibility to continue to add more or higher level talent.

But flexibility is turning into a revolving door dude, you think flipping your roster every 90 to 120 days is the path to winning..Sorry but stability is the KEY

Do you want Players seeing their name in trade rumors every other day, players playing for contracts instead of the team..

It’s NY with fans like you following it. There will always be trade rumors. That comes with the media market here. Knicks have to do what’s best for the long term health of the Knicks.

Knicks based off their discipline over the years have built one of their best collections of talent since the 54 win season. And deeper collections of talent than the Layden, Isaiah and Walsh yrs. Without having a jacked up cap or owing any future picks. Not only that but are actually owed 2 future first.

When they do start winning consistently. It will be because of these sacrifices and discipline displayed. AKA the process. The same process you whine about every step of the way.

The process started 5 yrs ago when we got KP after tanking, and we have tanked every yr since.

Hopefully that changes this yr, but you and I both know that if we are 9, 10, 11 games under 500 by JANUARY we will go into full tank mode like the last 5 seasons, trade rumors will fly, everyone loses focus, media starts pounding, trust..you have seen the movie before, part 1 through 5

We tanked an landed KP the season when Melo went down with career derailing knee surgeory. We had no draft pick the yr prior even though we missed the playoffs (without tanking). And no draft pick the yr after drafting KP. KP goes on to miss the last 1.5 of the 4 yrs he has been in the league. Has missed 132 games out of the 246 he could have possibly played over the last 3 seasons. Or 54% of the possible games he could have played which maybe changes the need to tank if he played. So how does that logic makes sense that your franchiser player is disgruntled over losing when he has missed 54% of the games he could have played over the last 3 yrs and every single game of the last season?

There is less reason to tank this coming season then there has been in the past. They have acquired enough young talent to move forward with. There is no Zion or Barrett in this up coming class. I don't think Lamelo Ball is a guy they are going to be enamoured with. They also have the assets where if a disgruntled player becomes available(Beal) they have a realistic shot at him. If things don't workout with Davis in LA they have the cap flex to have a realistic shot at him. If nothing of that sort formulates they just continue to add talent and probably keep majority of the players they signed this offseason. So they will only sacrifice chemistry for massive upgrades in talent.

You talk about continuity, but also complain about the growing pains nesseary to develop that.

You want a short cut to the final results, you can always step away give me your email. I will shoot you an email when the Knicks are finally there. But we both know while the losing sucks. Seeing the process to building a winning team unfold is what makes us diehards. Barrett had to have been fun to watch live vs Wiz the other day. Just remember that was a product of 17 win season last yr.

"Yo I'm a Knick!! Whhhaat" - RJ Barrett
KP and his brothers are..

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