TheGame wrote:Randall would be THJR all over again, i.e. Paying big money for a defensively challenged mid tier player. If we don't get KD or Leonard, then I say we only use our cap space to facilitate trades and acquire draft picks. Use this year to really see what we have in Knox, Trier, Dotson, Mitch, and Barrett

I think this is inaccurate. THJ has 1 13.5 PER for his career. Last year he was 13.6. When we signed him he was a 15.2, which is basically average.

Julius Randle has a career PER of 17.7. Last year he was a 21.0. Al Horford had a 20.2. Randle will be 25 years old. I think Randolph gets better.

I think this guy is a journeyman through no fault of his own. The Lakers jettisoned one all-star for LBJ, possibly two. The possible all star imho is getting jettisoned by a team that is gutting its roster two build around Zion. I think Julius Randle is a lot better than most are giving him credit for. Randle had 1.9 defensive win shares. By comparison, KP had DWS of 2.9, 2.1, and 1.8. Yes, injuries are a huge piece of that but Randolph is pretty available and healthy

TheGame wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

TheGame wrote:Randall would be THJR all over again, i.e. Paying big money for a defensively challenged mid tier player. If we don't get KD or Leonard, then I say we only use our cap space to facilitate trades and acquire draft picks. Use this year to really see what we have in Knox, Trier, Dotson, Mitch, and Barrett

I think this is inaccurate. THJ has 1 13.5 PER for his career. Last year he was 13.6. When we signed him he was a 15.2, which is basically average.

Julius Randle has a career PER of 17.7. Last year he was a 21.0. Al Horford had a 20.2. Randle will be 25 years old. I think Randolph gets better.

I think this guy is a journeyman through no fault of his own. The Lakers jettisoned one all-star for LBJ, possibly two. The possible all star imho is getting jettisoned by a team that is gutting its roster two build around Zion. I think Julius Randle is a lot better than most are giving him credit for. Randle had 1.9 defensive win shares. By comparison, KP had DWS of 2.9, 2.1, and 1.8. Yes, injuries are a huge piece of that but Randolph is pretty available and healthy

I will give you this, Randall is a better player than Hardaway was when we signed him. I guess it really depends on how much Randall costs. If we can sign him for $15-$16 mill a year, then It would be a solid deal. If we have to pay him $23-$25 mill a year, I don't know that he is worth that much.

I'm with you there. I don't want to bet the farm on the guy because he doesn't deserve that. I think adding a guy like him allows you to sign two other higher than average players who are not worth the max but more than the MLE. to me that it's the true appeal of adding someone like Randle

Nalod wrote:I want guys at fair values that are good enough to be traded if we need to improve upon or better yet thru the draft promote based on merit.

Chemistry matters, Randle played next to Davis. Did that help him?

so I did some quick math. You tell me.

AD played 56 games. So I averaged games 57 to 82 for Julius Randle.

He had 49.0 FG%, 29.9 3P%, 70.28% FT%, 7.5 RPG, 3.58 APG, 0.88 SPG, 0.67 BPG, 3.4 TO, and 24.42 PPG

I think he definitely benefited by playing alongside AD but I think how he played when AD quit shows that Randle has talent himself. If anyone that thinks he sucks and has a better argument against him than I have laid out for why he would make sense, please, I am all ears

TheGame wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

TheGame wrote:Randall would be THJR all over again, i.e. Paying big money for a defensively challenged mid tier player. If we don't get KD or Leonard, then I say we only use our cap space to facilitate trades and acquire draft picks. Use this year to really see what we have in Knox, Trier, Dotson, Mitch, and Barrett

I think this is inaccurate. THJ has 1 13.5 PER for his career. Last year he was 13.6. When we signed him he was a 15.2, which is basically average.

Julius Randle has a career PER of 17.7. Last year he was a 21.0. Al Horford had a 20.2. Randle will be 25 years old. I think Randolph gets better.

I think this guy is a journeyman through no fault of his own. The Lakers jettisoned one all-star for LBJ, possibly two. The possible all star imho is getting jettisoned by a team that is gutting its roster two build around Zion. I think Julius Randle is a lot better than most are giving him credit for. Randle had 1.9 defensive win shares. By comparison, KP had DWS of 2.9, 2.1, and 1.8. Yes, injuries are a huge piece of that but Randolph is pretty available and healthy

I will give you this, Randall is a better player than Hardaway was when we signed him. I guess it really depends on how much Randall costs. If we can sign him for $15-$16 mill a year, then It would be a solid deal. If we have to pay him $23-$25 mill a year, I don't know that he is worth that much.

Kemet wrote:
If Nets sign Kyrie .. I could see the new Lebron & AD Lakers going after Russell & Randle in the offseason to save-face for the organization.

Dont think they have the space to sign those 2....Lakers need to go after 3&D guys...Trevor Ariza, Danny Green and Patrick Beverly would be at the top of my list if i were the Lakers.

GustavBahler wrote:Would only be interested in a 2 year deal. Dont see him as a long term solution. Would rather sign Kanter for a couple of seasons. Wont happen though.

Agreed with the 2 year deal for Randle...disagree with Kanter. no need to revisit that again. if we need a back up center on a cheap deal, would much rather sign Jordan...He had more of a positive impact on our roster, particularly Robinson....Kanter was a bit of a disrupter before he got traded.

smackeddog wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:What do you guys think of Bobby Portis as a cheaper alternative? I think he'd fit good next to Mitch.

He’s meant to be a horrific defender

Yeah, but he's also more of a floor space than Randle at this point.