future picks going to the Pelicans include a 2021 pick that will go to New Orleans if it is in the top eight in that year's draft -- and will become an unprotected pick in 2022 if it isn't -- sources told ESPN's Tim Bontemps.

In addition, the deal includes a pick swap in 2023, which is unprotected, as well as an unprotected first-round pick in 2024 that the Pelicans will have the right to defer until 2025, sources told Bontemps.

So basically an unprotected first in 2022, an unprotected 1st in 2023 (via swap) and an unprotected pick in 2024 which can be changed to 2025 if the Pels want to. In this new draft system, not protecting your first's is madness.

I do like the idea of signing Russell. And Kawhi!!! LOL!!

knicks1248 wrote:Once again Knicks FO shows they can't play with the big Boys.

Our young guys have no value, we have manage to sink the value of most of the youngs on this team, especially Knox and frank.

That's why I laugh when some of you say we should keep developing the kids....

Some of you also don't realize that we have a very in experience FO, their plan is crumbling every step of the way.

1)the Hezonja experiment was a waste

2) Fiz is not a good head coach

3)you were forced to trade your Best Player

4)tanked for the #3 pick along with tanking the value of everybody on the roster, In the process your young players have develop a host of bad habit

5)After more hype than Zion, the knicks getting a KD and Kyrie combo is about as Likely as Ewing becoming the Knicks next Head coach.
6)The lakers out bid you in your quest for AD because you had no real chips to play with .

The only good news is that they can still redeem themselves, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Once again Knicks FO shows they can't play with the big Boys.

Our young guys have no value, we have manage to sink the value of most of the youngs on this team, especially Knox and frank.

That's why I laugh when some of you say we should keep developing the kids....

Some of you also don't realize that we have a very in experience FO, their plan is crumbling every step of the way.

1)the Hezonja experiment was a waste

2) Fiz is not a good head coach

3)you were forced to trade your Best Player

4)tanked for the #3 pick along with tanking the value of everybody on the roster, In the process your young players have develop a host of bad habit

5)After more hype than Zion, the knicks getting a KD and Kyrie combo is about as Likely as Ewing becoming the Knicks next Head coach.
6)The lakers out bid you in your quest for AD because you had no real chips to play with .

The only good news is that they can still redeem themselves, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point

Hey, could you remind me how the lakers landed Lonzo and Ingram? Because you oppose tanking and rebuilding via the draft, so those two must have been picked up via free agency, right? Thanks!

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Once again Knicks FO shows they can't play with the big Boys.

Our young guys have no value, we have manage to sink the value of most of the youngs on this team, especially Knox and frank.

That's why I laugh when some of you say we should keep developing the kids....

Some of you also don't realize that we have a very in experience FO, their plan is crumbling every step of the way.

1)the Hezonja experiment was a waste

2) Fiz is not a good head coach

3)you were forced to trade your Best Player

4)tanked for the #3 pick along with tanking the value of everybody on the roster, In the process your young players have develop a host of bad habit

5)After more hype than Zion, the knicks getting a KD and Kyrie combo is about as Likely as Ewing becoming the Knicks next Head coach.
6)The lakers out bid you in your quest for AD because you had no real chips to play with .

The only good news is that they can still redeem themselves, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point

Hey, could you remind me how the lakers landed Lonzo and Ingram? Because you oppose tanking and rebuilding via the draft, so those two must have been picked up via free agency, right? Thanks!

LOL Exactly. He doesnt believe in building through the draft. I mean thats basically how the Warriors became a super team even before KD got there. Spurs also built primarily through the draft

Yep, you have to wonder how he thinks all the stars, KD, AD, LeBron, Curry, came into the league in the first place

bigjeep8 wrote:Building through the draft is a lot tougher then a few years back. We had the worst record in the league and we are not getting Zion or Ja!

knicks1248 wrote:Once again Knicks FO shows they can't play with the big Boys.

Our young guys have no value, we have manage to sink the value of most of the youngs on this team, especially Knox and frank.

That's why I laugh when some of you say we should keep developing the kids....

Some of you also don't realize that we have a very in experience FO, their plan is crumbling every step of the way.

1)the Hezonja experiment was a waste

2) Fiz is not a good head coach

3)you were forced to trade your Best Player

4)tanked for the #3 pick along with tanking the value of everybody on the roster, In the process your young players have develop a host of bad habit

5)After more hype than Zion, the knicks getting a KD and Kyrie combo is about as Likely as Ewing becoming the Knicks next Head coach.
6)The lakers out bid you in your quest for AD because you had no real chips to play with .

The only good news is that they can still redeem themselves, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point

Your posts are so off the tracks that I'm compelled to respond despite the fact that it all falls on your deaf ears.

#1) Hezonja was a calculated risk, nothing more, nothing less.

#2) Fizz is at least guilty of hubris. He [and the FO] never imagined that we'd be in the position we are now in. Instead of implementing a system [any system], the Knicks wasted a year playing horse. That benefited no one and only made our players look incompetent. I mention this only because the meme that the Knicks were not offering the Pels fine talent are misinformed.

Fizz is just the latest in a line of good coaches trapped by circumstances beyond their control. Should he start wining, he will be considered a much better coach.

#3) Our best players remain with the team. The team cancer was surgically removed for superior assets.

#4) I can't argue too loudly on this one. I wasn't happy with "the process".

#5) Not getting Kyrie would be a godsend. Signing KD ensures another half decade of mediocrity. WTF are you complaining about?

#6) The Lakers outbid themselves in acquiring AD. Hats off to them. WE had the assets AND the common sense not to overbid on AD. The Knicks were just being used as a negotiating counterpoint as usual. *THIS* is an NBA shame. By treating the Knicks as a favorite whipping post, the fans are punished - the team makes plenty of money.

fwk00 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Once again Knicks FO shows they can't play with the big Boys.

Our young guys have no value, we have manage to sink the value of most of the youngs on this team, especially Knox and frank.

That's why I laugh when some of you say we should keep developing the kids....

Some of you also don't realize that we have a very in experience FO, their plan is crumbling every step of the way.

1)the Hezonja experiment was a waste

2) Fiz is not a good head coach

3)you were forced to trade your Best Player

4)tanked for the #3 pick along with tanking the value of everybody on the roster, In the process your young players have develop a host of bad habit

5)After more hype than Zion, the knicks getting a KD and Kyrie combo is about as Likely as Ewing becoming the Knicks next Head coach.
6)The lakers out bid you in your quest for AD because you had no real chips to play with .

The only good news is that they can still redeem themselves, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point

Your posts are so off the tracks that I'm compelled to respond despite the fact that it all falls on your deaf ears.

#1) Hezonja was a calculated risk, nothing more, nothing less.

#2) Fizz is at least guilty of hubris. He [and the FO] never imagined that we'd be in the position we are now in. Instead of implementing a system [any system], the Knicks wasted a year playing horse. That benefited no one and only made our players look incompetent. I mention this only because the meme that the Knicks were not offering the Pels fine talent are misinformed.

Fizz is just the latest in a line of good coaches trapped by circumstances beyond their control. Should he start wining, he will be considered a much better coach.

#3) Our best players remain with the team. The team cancer was surgically removed for superior assets.

#4) I can't argue too loudly on this one. I wasn't happy with "the process".

#5) Not getting Kyrie would be a godsend. Signing KD ensures another half decade of mediocrity. WTF are you complaining about?

#6) The Lakers outbid themselves in acquiring AD. Hats off to them. WE had the assets AND the common sense not to overbid on AD. The Knicks were just being used as a negotiating counterpoint as usual. *THIS* is an NBA shame. By treating the Knicks as a favorite whipping post, the fans are punished - the team makes plenty of money.

our best players would barely make the rotation on a good team..get real dude

The irony is that AD is getting a lot of grief for what he did (demanding trade_ but look how NOLA benefitted from that approach as opposed to KD walking away from OKC who got nothing

There's a very good chance the Lakers will be good next year but they have a lot of holes to fill now.

I am also not at all enthused by Lonzo (and we complain about Frank's shot) and Ingram (guy will always get pushed around)