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6/12/2019  5:55 PM
Kevin Durant has surgery on ruptured Achilles’ tendon: ‘My road back starts now’

Kevin Durant's Achilles' rupture amounts to a worst-case scenario for the star forward.
By Ben Golliver
June 12 at 5:46 PM

OAKLAND, Calif. — Kevin Durant’s valiant comeback to the NBA Finals has officially ended in nightmare fashion.

The Golden State Warriors superstar announced on Instagram Wednesday that he underwent successful surgery to repair a ruptured right Achilles’ tendon, suffered during a Game 5 win over the Toronto Raptors on Monday.

A timetable for his recovery was not immediately known, but the injury typically carries a 12-month recovery timeline and requires a grueling rehabilitation.

“My road back starts now,” Durant wrote, alongside a photograph of him in a hospital bed. “I got my family and my loved ones by my side and we truly appreciate all the messages and support people have sent our way. Its just the way things go in this game and I’m proud that I gave it all I physically could. It’s going to be a journey but I’m built for this.”

The 10-time all-star forward returned to the court for Game 5, his first action in more than a month after suffering a right calf strain during the second round of the playoffs, in hopes of helping Golden State, which trailed 3-1 in the series, stave off elimination. Durant departed, well before halftime, with a serious injury known for altering careers and robbing professional athletes of their explosiveness.

The injury came without contact, and it immediately sent him to the court in pain and disbelief. Early in the second quarter, the Maryland native attempted to drive past Raptors forward Serge Ibaka — only to crumble to the court as his right leg gave way. Durant needed to be assisted to the locker room by his teammates and he departed the arena early on crutches, finishing with 11 points and two rebounds in 12 minutes.

“I’m hurting deeply, but I’m OK,” Durant wrote. “Basketball is my biggest love and I wanted to be out there that night because that’s what I do. I wanted to help my teammates on our quest for the three-peat.”

The devastating injury strikes Durant in his athletic prime at age 30. Often, athletes don’t return to full form after an Achilles’ tear until the second season following the injury and, in some cases, they never recover their full quickness and agility. Given the timing of Durant’s injury, which was confirmed by an MRI taken Tuesday, it’s possible that he will miss the entire 2019-20 season.

Warriors center DeMarcus Cousins returned in January after missing roughly a year with an Achilles’ tear, only to look like a shell of himself. Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant tore his Achilles’ in 2013 at age 34, played just six games the following season, and never returned to full form. San Antonio Spurs forward Rudy Gay, however, has enjoyed a successful second act since tearing his Achilles’ in 2017.

The decision to return to the court on Monday came after days of intense speculation regarding Durant’s mind-set. Reports surfaced that some members of the Warriors, dealing with numerous injuries to key players and facing elimination against the Raptors, were growing frustrated that he hadn’t completed his comeback. After it initially seemed like he might return for Game 4 last Friday, the Warriors strangely reversed course without a clear explanation of the events and without Durant making any public statement.

Warriors Coach Steve Kerr said Wednesday that the decision to finally greenlight the Game 5 return was a “collaborative” one that included Durant, his agent Rich Kleiman, the team’s medical staff, and an outside medical expert who provided a second opinion.

“Would we go back and do it over again? Damn right,” Kerr said. “That’s easy to say after the results. Our feeling was the worst thing that could happen would be a reinjure of the calf. That was the advice and the information that we had. At that point, once Kevin was cleared to play, he was comfortable with that, we were comfortable with that. So the Achilles’ came as a complete shock. Had we known that this was a possibility, that this was even in the realm of possibility, there’s no way we ever would have allowed Kevin to come back.”

Before sustaining the injury, Durant appeared loose and played effectively. He danced during pregame warm-ups, swished his first two three-pointers, and covered ground well. But his unfortunate turn of events became a nightmare scenario, given the pressure to perform, the stage of the NBA Finals and the severity of his injury.

Warriors General Manager Bob Myers was reduced to tears after Game 5, accepting blame for Durant’s Achilles’ injury and noting that it was separate from his original calf injury.

“I don’t believe there’s anybody to blame,” he said. “But if you have to, you can blame me. I run our basketball operations department. Kevin Durant loves to play basketball, and the people that questioned whether he wanted to get back to this team were wrong. He’s one of the most misunderstood people. He’s a good teammate, he’s a good person. It’s not fair. I’m lucky to know him.”

This is just the second major injury of Durant’s 12-year career. In 2014-15, he missed 45 games due to a right foot fracture that required three surgeries over a six-month time period. Durant rebounded well, returning to all-star form the next season and emerging as the most coveted free agent by 2016, when he stunned the league by leaving the Oklahoma City Thunder to join the Warriors. His arrival gave Golden State, which had won a record 73 games the previous season, arguably the greatest collection of talent in NBA history.

Durant, regarded as one of the greatest all-around offensive players in NBA history, led the Warriors to the past two NBA titles and won Finals MVP honors in both 2016 and 2017. The four-time scoring champ averaged 26 points, 6.4 rebounds and 5.9 assists per game this season, earning all-NBA second team honors and ranking eighth in jersey sales.

The chase to sign Durant, who can become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, has been a leading NBA subplot all season. Per league rules, Golden State can pay him more than $220 million over five years, while other suitors can offer four years at more than $160 million.

The Warriors, New York Knicks and Los Angeles Clippers are among his top suitors, and all three are likely to remain interested despite the severity of his injury. People in the league familiar with the situation indicated Tuesday that multiple teams continue to view Durant as worthy of a max contract.

Durant has a $31.5 million player option for next season with Golden State, should he elect to forgo free agency this summer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/06/12/kevin-durant-has-surgery-ruptured-achilles-tendon/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.68944b5af862

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6/12/2019  6:40 PM
IT's probably a blessing in disguise for us. First, if had not played rest of playoffs and signed with us, who wants to bet against him popping his achilles in his first game in a Knicks uni. You know it would've happened. Next, gives us time to take a deep breath and keep our powder dry for 2020 - even if we sign Durant. Our youth gets more experience, we keep the 3rd pick, and we get another couple primo picks in 2020 (ours and Dallas) to do with what we will (trade for Giannis? cash in chips for other needed parts?). And I'm inclined to still go for KD - there's really no downside. We get one of the league's best players coming back in '20 with fresh legs and we are players for whomever we want - everyone will want to be a Knick with KD here. And it changes the narrative. It's a win all around.
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6/12/2019  7:18 PM
stanleybostitch wrote:IT's probably a blessing in disguise for us. First, if had not played rest of playoffs and signed with us, who wants to bet against him popping his achilles in his first game in a Knicks uni. You know it would've happened. Next, gives us time to take a deep breath and keep our powder dry for 2020 - even if we sign Durant. Our youth gets more experience, we keep the 3rd pick, and we get another couple primo picks in 2020 (ours and Dallas) to do with what we will (trade for Giannis? cash in chips for other needed parts?). And I'm inclined to still go for KD - there's really no downside. We get one of the league's best players coming back in '20 with fresh legs and we are players for whomever we want - everyone will want to be a Knick with KD here. And it changes the narrative. It's a win all around.

It all sounds excellent if it plays like that, but there are no guarantees considering most history of recovery from an Achilles rupture are hardly reassuring. We act like it’s ok to wait for KD and pay him whatever max for next year since he will come back 100% with fresh legs and 31 years young. This shouldn’t be the easy decision some here are making it because most people agree it’s harder to comeback from this injury and be close to who you where after 30.

And people will want to be in NY with KD only if he can really comeback, which we are around a year to see and we know he will take time to go back to his level if he actually does. So this is honestly not the slam dunk most here make it to be. Not even close. There are as many possible positives as negatives.

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6/12/2019  7:31 PM
My plan is to sign KD and use remaining cap space to absorb bad contracts with first rounders attached. KD returns in 2020 with a 2nd year Barrett and 3rd year knox and Mitch and we are armed with a ton of picks ready for the next big star to demand a trade. Guys I’m keeping an eye on are Beal and Towns. Towns just re-upped but I give him 2 years until he pushes for that trade out of Minnesota.
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6/12/2019  7:55 PM
Knixkik wrote:My plan is to sign KD and use remaining cap space to absorb bad contracts with first rounders attached. KD returns in 2020 with a 2nd year Barrett and 3rd year knox and Mitch and we are armed with a ton of picks ready for the next big star to demand a trade. Guys I’m keeping an eye on are Beal and Towns. Towns just re-upped but I give him 2 years until he pushes for that trade out of Minnesota.

A Center? No. Maxing out a Center the way the league is set up is best way to not win anything

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6/12/2019  8:05 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
Knixkik wrote:My plan is to sign KD and use remaining cap space to absorb bad contracts with first rounders attached. KD returns in 2020 with a 2nd year Barrett and 3rd year knox and Mitch and we are armed with a ton of picks ready for the next big star to demand a trade. Guys I’m keeping an eye on are Beal and Towns. Towns just re-upped but I give him 2 years until he pushes for that trade out of Minnesota.

A Center? No. Maxing out a Center the way the league is set up is best way to not win anything

Just an example. I think it will always be more about the player than the position.

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6/13/2019  3:20 AM
We're still going to max him out- bet on it
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6/13/2019  8:52 AM
Knixkik wrote:My plan is to sign KD and use remaining cap space to absorb bad contracts with first rounders attached. KD returns in 2020 with a 2nd year Barrett and 3rd year knox and Mitch and we are armed with a ton of picks ready for the next big star to demand a trade. Guys I’m keeping an eye on are Beal and Towns. Towns just re-upped but I give him 2 years until he pushes for that trade out of Minnesota.

That's becoming a ongoing trend in the NBA WHEN YOUR"E LOOSING..See KP, KG, PG13, KD, CP3, i mean the list is endless..

The knicks don't have to go all in, but at the very least they need to start winning and playing above .500 ball

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Knixkik wrote:My plan is to sign KD and use remaining cap space to absorb bad contracts with first rounders attached. KD returns in 2020 with a 2nd year Barrett and 3rd year knox and Mitch and we are armed with a ton of picks ready for the next big star to demand a trade. Guys I’m keeping an eye on are Beal and Towns. Towns just re-upped but I give him 2 years until he pushes for that trade out of Minnesota.

That's becoming a ongoing trend in the NBA WHEN YOUR"E LOOSING..See KP, KG, PG13, KD, CP3, i mean the list is endless..

The knicks don't have to go all in, but at the very least they need to start winning and playing above .500 ball

Yes i agree. I think free agency will get minimize a little more each year and the new free agency will be player's agents demanding trades in the way AD has. Right now we see players demanding trades a year ahead of free agency. I see it happening even sooner than that soon. Also, what you said is one of the reasons i still want KD. You bring back KD with this young group and you should be a playoff team. Not a contender, but good enough to get respect around the league where more players want to join. It's not about championship or bust, we need to become a playoff team sooner than later to truly develop our young guys and increase interest.

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6/13/2019  9:35 AM
If KD and Knicks will get insurance company to insure his legs for the duration of the contract it may not be the end of the world to take a flyer.
We do not need another Amare here.
Also as good as KD was, is , (will be?) there are a lot of other great players coming into FA pipeline in next 3-4 years and we are not in the rush.
Knicks have no roster to plug in supper stars to win-now like Raptors. KD signing will be a desperation move when there is no desperation.
Good test for the resolve of our FO to show their true colors.
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6/13/2019  9:50 AM
Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade
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6/13/2019  9:51 AM
arkrud wrote:If KD and Knicks will get insurance company to insure his legs for the duration of the contract it may not be the end of the world to take a flyer.
We do not need another Amare here.
Also as good as KD was, is , (will be?) there are a lot of other great players coming into FA pipeline in next 3-4 years and we are not in the rush.
Knicks have no roster to plug in supper stars to win-now like Raptors. KD signing will be a desperation move when there is no desperation.
Good test for the resolve of our FO to show their true colors.

who cares about insurance. it still eats into the cap.

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anrst wrote:
arkrud wrote:If KD and Knicks will get insurance company to insure his legs for the duration of the contract it may not be the end of the world to take a flyer.
We do not need another Amare here.
Also as good as KD was, is , (will be?) there are a lot of other great players coming into FA pipeline in next 3-4 years and we are not in the rush.
Knicks have no roster to plug in supper stars to win-now like Raptors. KD signing will be a desperation move when there is no desperation.
Good test for the resolve of our FO to show their true colors.

who cares about insurance. it still eats into the cap.

right - people counting Dolan's money like he's gonna pick up their drinks and dinner

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SupremeCommander wrote:
anrst wrote:
arkrud wrote:If KD and Knicks will get insurance company to insure his legs for the duration of the contract it may not be the end of the world to take a flyer.
We do not need another Amare here.
Also as good as KD was, is , (will be?) there are a lot of other great players coming into FA pipeline in next 3-4 years and we are not in the rush.
Knicks have no roster to plug in supper stars to win-now like Raptors. KD signing will be a desperation move when there is no desperation.
Good test for the resolve of our FO to show their true colors.

who cares about insurance. it still eats into the cap.

right - people counting Dolan's money like he's gonna pick up their drinks and dinner

It is not about Dolan but organization reputation.
When FO considering to be a bunch of idiots not many good thing will happen with franchise.
Just do the right thing not what owner or fans want in the heat of the moment.
Then good players and good Karma will come.

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6/13/2019  11:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2019  11:40 AM
anrst wrote:Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade

Disagree. The logic is finding a leader for this team. Barrett, Knox, and Mitch need someone to guide them. It's not as simple as keeping open space, develop the young, and expect youth to learn how to win on their own. Think of Denver signing Millsap as an example. An aging player signed for 30 mil per year on a losing team at the time. He has been essential to their youth developing and was worth every penny. KD's presence alone is worth it. You need a star/former star/high level player to lead the way and teach these guys how to win.

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6/13/2019  11:53 AM
Knixkik wrote:
anrst wrote:Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade

Disagree. The logic is finding a leader for this team. Barrett, Knox, and Mitch need someone to guide them. It's not as simple as keeping open space, develop the young, and expect youth to learn how to win on their own. Think of Denver signing Millsap as an example. An aging player signed for 30 mil per year on a losing team at the time. He has been essential to their youth developing and was worth every penny. KD's presence alone is worth it. You need a star/former star/high level player to lead the way and teach these guys how to win.


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6/13/2019  11:59 AM
Knixkik wrote:
anrst wrote:Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade

Disagree. The logic is finding a leader for this team. Barrett, Knox, and Mitch need someone to guide them. It's not as simple as keeping open space, develop the young, and expect youth to learn how to win on their own. Think of Denver signing Millsap as an example. An aging player signed for 30 mil per year on a losing team at the time. He has been essential to their youth developing and was worth every penny. KD's presence alone is worth it. You need a star/former star/high level player to lead the way and teach these guys how to win.

The amount on assumptions based on wishful thinking rather than reality is astounding. Justifying this signing on Durant being the same player a year later is irresponsible. Justifying it on him becoming the leader of the youngsters when he will not be there at all to be a leader is illogical. A year, guys! Its a year out and then finding out how much of his game is still there.

The best that can happen for all parties is for Durant to pick his player option and become a FA after recovering and proving how much he has left in the tank. If he does test the market, I really wonder how much that would impact his contract. There MAY BE ways to make this contract work while he is out, but you are still signing him for the player he was and not necessarily the player he will be for you. Considering the severity of this injury, that's throwing away the clean slate the Knicks got with the Porzingis deal.

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6/13/2019  12:04 PM
I'm in the blessing in disguise camp. It would be a huge mistake to sign KD at this point

Kawhi and a shooter should be our targets. Failing that we'll just have to try and earn glory the old fashioned way -- draft and develop

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6/13/2019  12:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2019  12:39 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
anrst wrote:Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade

Disagree. The logic is finding a leader for this team. Barrett, Knox, and Mitch need someone to guide them. It's not as simple as keeping open space, develop the young, and expect youth to learn how to win on their own. Think of Denver signing Millsap as an example. An aging player signed for 30 mil per year on a losing team at the time. He has been essential to their youth developing and was worth every penny. KD's presence alone is worth it. You need a star/former star/high level player to lead the way and teach these guys how to win.

The amount on assumptions based on wishful thinking rather than reality is astounding. Justifying this signing on Durant being the same player a year later is irresponsible. Justifying it on him becoming the leader of the youngsters when he will not be there at all to be a leader is illogical. A year, guys! Its a year out and then finding out how much of his game is still there.

The best that can happen for all parties is for Durant to pick his player option and become a FA after recovering and proving how much he has left in the tank. If he does test the market, I really wonder how much that would impact his contract. There MAY BE ways to make this contract work while he is out, but you are still signing him for the player he was and not necessarily the player he will be for you. Considering the severity of this injury, that's throwing away the clean slate the Knicks got with the Porzingis deal.

KD at 80% is still worth the max. It's not like it's a supermax deal. It's a 4 year contract. If we don't sign him, that's fine too. I love the clean slate and assets and youth we have. But expecting guys like RJB, Knox, Mitch, and DSJ to develop without quality players around them, and just adding guys on 1 year deals is not the answer. You need to provide a foundation around them to help them learn how to win. It doesn't just happen. Maybe it's better to go to LA Clipper route with guys like Williams, Beverley, Gallinari etc. But you need vet leaders and good basketball players to put next to the young guys.

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6/13/2019  12:50 PM
I don't want to sign him, but another thing you have to take into account is if all the rumors were true and we did a handshake deal etc with him months ago, we're going to have to honor it
Quick Move: Durant did rupture his Achilles and already had surgery

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