CrushAlot wrote:My motivation for taking him in part is because I think the nets losing him and signing Kyrie is going to turn out really bad.

BigDaddyG wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:D. Russell is a nice player just too much baggage for my taste for a big contract. I would go with hunting for Brogdon, Middleton and Tobias Harris first.

I'd be OK with punting to next season if those are our choices. I don't want a THJ situation where we sign a dude simply because we have Capt space and feel pressured into making a splash.

I agree. We have young players at the 1,2, and 3 spot that we need to develop. Why sign a 2tier FA from one of those spots. The spot we really need help at in terms of a long term FA is the 4 spot. I would rather the Knicks use their cap space to facilitate trades and obtain more future draft picks. The Kincks could then sign some cheap veterans on one year deals to help the youths get over the hump. But bottom line, we need to figure out how good Mitchell, Knox, Smith, Dotson, and Trier can be. We might as well use this year to do that. With the injury to KD, it makes no sense to sign him. Leonard and Walker are unlikely to leave their current teams and I don't want Kyrie for the max. We should stand pat and try to acquire more draft picks this season

CrushAlot wrote:

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He makes no sense next to Kyrie, they were obviously leaking that they planned to keep both of them just to avoid upsetting Russell in case the Kyrie thing feel through.

Bizarrely, I remember reading a few weeks ago that stats wise I think they were a better team or something when he was on the bench. Still think they should go with him over Kyrie, but I guess they are trying to overtake the Knicks as the main NY franchise. Hope it backfires!

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

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He makes no sense next to Kyrie, they were obviously leaking that they planned to keep both of them just to avoid upsetting Russell in case the Kyrie thing feel through.

Bizarrely, I remember reading a few weeks ago that stats wise I think they were a better team or something when he was on the bench. Still think they should go with him over Kyrie, but I guess they are trying to overtake the Knicks as the main NY franchise. Hope it backfires!

Doubt that, read the article in the link, and look at Russell's stats. Wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

Cant blame Russell, thats for sure.

TLover wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

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https://twitter.com/snytv/status/1139704400589594624

He makes no sense next to Kyrie, they were obviously leaking that they planned to keep both of them just to avoid upsetting Russell in case the Kyrie thing feel through.

Bizarrely, I remember reading a few weeks ago that stats wise I think they were a better team or something when he was on the bench. Still think they should go with him over Kyrie, but I guess they are trying to overtake the Knicks as the main NY franchise. Hope it backfires!

Doubt that, read the article in the link, and look at Russell's stats. Wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

Cant blame Russell, thats for sure.

Would love to see Russell in a Knicks uniform taking it to the Nets & Lakers.
Give this dude the max and then let’s try for Kawahi!

Kawhi might be the player to make Russell to the Knicks work. Only reason I have been against it is because only 2 teams have won a ring in the last 25 years with a PG taking up 20 percent or more of the cap. Spreads the roster too thin.

The exceptions were the Spurs and the LeBron's Cavs. Believe Spurs won with Kawhi on the team. If Im wrong, it can be argued that he has a LeBron like impact on the outcome of games now.

Yeah, maybe Kawhi could make it work. Would also have the young core to lean on.

GustavBahler wrote:

TLover wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/snytv/status/1139704400589594624

He makes no sense next to Kyrie, they were obviously leaking that they planned to keep both of them just to avoid upsetting Russell in case the Kyrie thing feel through.

Bizarrely, I remember reading a few weeks ago that stats wise I think they were a better team or something when he was on the bench. Still think they should go with him over Kyrie, but I guess they are trying to overtake the Knicks as the main NY franchise. Hope it backfires!

Doubt that, read the article in the link, and look at Russell's stats. Wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

Cant blame Russell, thats for sure.

Would love to see Russell in a Knicks uniform taking it to the Nets & Lakers.
Give this dude the max and then let’s try for Kawahi!

Kawhi might be the player to make Russell to the Knicks work. Only reason I have been against it is because only 2 teams have won a ring in the last 25 years with a PG taking up 20 percent or more of the cap. Spreads the roster too thin.

The exceptions were the Spurs and the LeBron's Cavs. Believe Spurs won with Kawhi on the team. If Im wrong, it can be argued that he has a LeBron like impact on the outcome of games now.

Yeah, maybe Kawhi could make it work. Would also have the young core to lean on.

Kawhi ain't comming to the Knicks. Please Lets get real. Lets get our draft pick and play it safe. We must build from within.

SupremeCommander wrote:we need to sign guys that aren't done developing and who are young -- like the rest of our roster

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:we need to sign guys that aren't done developing and who are young -- like the rest of our roster

dont Russell and Randle check those boxes?

that was my point

If Kawahi does not sign with then I’m good with Randle.

I’m almost rooting for Kyrie to sign with the Nets so we have a shot at signing D.Russell.
I would also look to trade SmithJr to Hornets for their #12 pick and Franky Smokes for Josh Jackson.

SupremeCommander wrote:we need to sign guys that aren't done developing and who are young -- like the rest of our roster

we have 5 guys on the roster, all of which (at this point in their career)are below avg players.

You keep learning until you die, there's no limit to learning, The best players in the NBA never stop developing, they are alway adding to their game.

I don't know how many times i here great players say that, Jordan, Kobe, Malone, Stockton, nash..that's why those kinds of player last in this NBA business

Jmpasq wrote:

TLover wrote:

Panos wrote:If we'd kept KP and signed Okafor to a min contact, we could have picks 2-6 from that draft class!

Would have no problem resigning Hezonja for 1 yr at 10-12 million. He was our best player at the end of last season and is only 24. Hezonja showed that he can guard the 3 which makes Knox more effective at the 4. In this scenario I would look to sign KD with Mario holding it down till KD is ready to play. The cap hold on Hezonja should not be much, meaning we can sign D.Russell & KD while going over the cap to resign Mario.

10-12 million for Mario is insane. No way he gets that much, maybe half that

Egads. I don’t want him for free. You’re going to ignore his large body of poor work in favor of a few meaningless games where we preferred to lose and leave him do whatever he wanted