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9/24/2004  10:47 AM
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Prospects of trading Carter look slim

By Chad Ford
ESPN Insider

After hinting all summer that he wanted out of Toronto, Vince Carter finally went public with his trade demand last week.


"It's time for the truth: I want to be traded, I'm ready to be traded," Carter said on Thursday. "First and foremost, this has nothing to do with the fans or the city, it's just time for me to look after me."


In that opening statement you can learn just about everything you need to know about Carter.


Carter believes that his career will be resurrected if he's traded from Toronto. That's unlikely and other GMs around the league know it. Sources around the league claim that the Raptors have explored trading Carter ever since new GM Rob Babcock took over -- but the team has received little interest from teams around the league.


Carter's assertion that Raptors management isn't trying hard enough to trade him is laughable.


"I want a fair shot at being on the market and being traded and I feel I haven't had that fair shot," Carter said. "This is about doing what's best for me. . . I want them to get someone of fair value. ... but I'm looking for a new start for Vince right now. I've never been this way, but it's time. I've looked around at so many rosters trying to find what would help this team and it's hard."


That's Vince's biggest problem. All other 29 GMs in the league know that Vince is all about what's best for Vince and are reluctant to give away a player on any value in return for him.
Carter hopes to be making his points in another uniform soon.


"There's no way the team gets fair value back in return [for Carter]," one source told Insider. "He's still a huge draw, but a lot of people question whether he's strong enough physically or mentally to lead a team to a title."


That includes the Raptors, who are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place with Carter. They can trade him away and kiss goodbye any semblance of fan support the lowly Raptors now enjoy. Or they can keep him and continue to wallow in mediocrity.


Babcock has insisted all weekend that a trade is not in the works for Carter and that he has no intention of giving away his star. It's likely to stay that way.


Carter has zero leverage. His contract lasts another three seasons. Babcock knows that Carter's trade value is at rock bottom right now. When teams believe that a player is trying to force his way out of situation, they low ball you. Right now, the Raptors are seeing nothing but low ball offers.


There are, however, a number of interesting trade partners out there that could make a strong pitch for Carter if they were willing to include a star or two in the talks. Insider breaks down the trade options for the Raptors. While all of them are far from perfect, if the Raptors do decide to sever ties with Vince, these four teams have the best chance of putting together a deal that could make some sense for the Raptors.



NEW ORLEANS HORNETS


The one rumored deal out there that has some legs is a Baron Davis for Carter swap. Both players have demanded trades and the Hornets desperately need a player like Carter who can put fans in the seats. The problem, from the Raptors end, is that Davis doesn't want to play in Toronto. He's looking for a trade to a big market team, a playoff contender, preferably on the West Coast. The Raptors would be, in essence, trading one headache for another.


Considering Davis's history of injuries, conditioning issues and poor attitude toward coaches, it's very unlikely that the Raptors are willing to take that risk. If the Hornets were willing to include Jamaal Magloire in the deal, however, things would change dramatically. Magloire, a native Canadian, wants to play in Canada and would give the team the big in the middle that they desperately need.


Magliore is a base year player, making him difficult to trade this year. However, a Magliore, Jamal Mashburn and David Wesley for Carter, Donyell Marshall and Jerome Moiso trade does work under cap rules.


A Davis-Carter backcourt is a highlight reel waiting to happen and would likely end any trade demands that Davis had. However, without Magliore, the Hornets would be very thin at center -- a risky proposition in the West.



MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES


The Wolves could give up either Latrell Sprewell or a combination of Wally Szczerbiak and Michael Olowokandi for Carter.


Spree in Toronto would be a disaster and everyone knows it. The Wally deal is more interesting. At this point Szczerbiak would welcome a trade to Toronto. He never quite fit into the new mix of players in Minnesota last season and has a rocky history with Kevin Garnett. The chance to be first or second fiddle on the Raptors make him a good fit.


If the Wolves were willing to include Olowokandi as part of the deal . . . a starting line up with Rafer Alston, Szczerbiak, Donyell Marshall, Chris Bosh and Olowokandi with Jalen Rose, Morris Peterson, Alvin Williams and rookie Rafael Araujo coming off the bench is an upgrade, especially in the East.


The downside? Would the Timberwolves really be willing to weaken their front line like that? A Carter and KG combo would be formidable. With Spree in the last year of his contract, the Wolves need a younger replacement anyway. But that trade would leave just Ervin Johnson at center. Is that enough to get the Wolves all the way to the promised land in the West?



PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS


The Blazers are still shopping Shareef Abdur-Rahim and might be willing to make the swap. Blazers GM John Nash would love having a player like Carter in the fold. The team has been looking for a dominant two guard all summer and Carter would be an excellent fit.


Abdur Rahim isn't a great fit in Toronto, however. With Bosh already showing great promise at the position, the only reason the Raptors would make this move is for financial reasons. The move would save the Raptors a load of cash next summer if Abdur-Rahim left via free agency, but it still wouldn't be enough to get them far enough under the ap to make any real noise.


A three way trade with the Blazers, Wolves and Raptors that sent Abdur-Rahim to Minnesota (they almost sealed a deal for him several weeks ago), Carter to Portland and Szczerbiak and Olowokandi to Toronto might make some sense.



SEATTLE SUPERSONICS


A Ray Allen for Carter swap might make the most sense from a talent swap standpoint. The two players are close in age and have put up roughly the same numbers that past few seasons. Carter would give the Sonics a huge boost in the lagging attendance and Allen would give the team a desperately needed sharp shooter.


However, Toronto would have no guarantee that Allen, who becomes an unrestricted free agent next summer, will re-sign with them. He is looking for a max contract extension with the Sonics and given his age and injury history, that might be too much for the Raptors to bite off. If they offered him any less, there's a great chance he'd bolt the next summer. To date, the Raptors have had only two major free agents, Carter and Antonio Davis, re-sign with the club in free agency.


Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.


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9/24/2004  10:48 AM
Gasol, Kirilenko, Parker seek early deals

By Chad Ford
ESPN Insider

Pau Gasol might have been the best player in the world this summer. Now he'd like to get paid like one.

As of late Monday evening, Gasol's new agent, Arn Tellem, was moving closer to brokering a hefty six-year extension with the Grizzlies, a source close to the negotiations told Insider. The deal will likely make Gasol the second-highest paid international player in the NBA, behind only Dirk Nowitzki.

While the parameters of the deal are still being negotiated, sources claim that the Grizzlies have offered a deal worth at least $75 million over six years. Tellem, whom Gasol hired specifically for the negotiations, is looking for more cash, but sources claim that the two sides aren't that far apart and expect something to happen by training camp.

Over the summer, Gasol emerged as one of the top players in the world, leading the Spanish national team to a 5-1 record. He averaged 22.4 ppg and 7.3 rpg on 61 percent shooting during the tournament and had a monster game against Team USA. Guarded by former MVP Tim Duncan, Gasol scored 29 points in a losing effort for Spain.
Gasol has won over the skeptics, including Jerry West.

His play in the Olympics wasn't a fluke. NBA scouts all noticed that Gasol, who turned 24 in July, continues to pack on the muscle and refine his inside game. Jerry West has taken notice as well. After originally being lukewarm to Gasol, he's come around and made re-signing him a top priority this summer.

"He's a 24 year old, seven-foot, all-star caliber player who improves his game every year," one NBA scout told Insider. "I think by the time he's 26 or 27, he's going to be a center -- and perhaps the best one in basketball. This is a slam dunk for the Grizzlies. Gasol has a great work ethic and is a team player too. He deserves the cash."

Other NBA agents are watching the negotiations closely. Teams have until October 29 to sign players drafted in the class of 2001 to long-term extensions. If they do not, the players become restricted free agents at the end of the season.

To date, only two players, the Grizzlies' Shane Battier and the Nets' Richard Jefferson, have inked extensions. Battier's deal was for six years, $37 million. Jefferson received a whopping six-year, $76 million. However, since those two signed, negotiations have been relatively quiet. More than one agent believes that the owners believe that the Nets paid too much for Jefferson and are trying to cool off the market.

"There's no question that the owners are trying to distance themselves from the Jefferson deal," one agent told Insider. "There are several players in this class that are much better players. If he gets $76 million, what do they get? When you factor in how much guys like Kenyon Martin and Carlos Boozer got paid, the starting point for many of these players is very high."

Just below Gasol on the pecking order of top players eligible for extensions are the Jazz's Andrei Kirilenko, the Spurs' Tony Parker and the Blazers' Zach Randolph. Given their production last season, their age, and their potential, you could argue that all three of the players are worthy of a deal more lucrative than what Jefferson got. That's what worries the owners.

"You have to try to explain to the agents that just because one team made a mistake doesn't mean we have to as well," one NBA GM told Insider. "The Nets were desperate. They were gutting the team. They felt like they had to show Jefferson that they were ready to build around him. I'm not sure any of these other players are in the same position. They may be better players, but sometimes it's about being in the right place at the right time."

There's some truth to that. While Kirilenko statistically is a top 10 player in the league, the Jazz are one of the NBA's most fiscally conservative teams. With that said, Kirilenko's agent, Marc Fleisher, claims that the two sides have been talking for "a while" and that negotiations with the Jazz were progressing in the right direction.

The Jazz are willing to give Kirilenko a six-year contract that's worth more than the six-year, $68 million they paid to Boozer. That's a good starting point according to Fleisher, who said he was optimistic the two sides could work something out.

Fleisher also represents another top player, Parker. Fleisher claims that talks with the Spurs just started: "I just got a letter from the team laying out the issues. We haven't talked numbers yet, but I expect to shortly."

The Spurs, another historically conservative team when it comes to handing out contracts, may have no choice but to open the vaults to Parker. The 22-year-old native of France had a coming out party in the Olympics last year and looks to be the only elite point guard on the free agent market next summer. Given the numbers veterans like Steve Nash and Derek Fisher got from teams hungry for a point guard, both the Spurs and Parker know he could be playing for a max contract this year if talks of an extension don't work out.

Randolph is the other player who put up enough good numbers this year to look at a huge extension. However, his recent legal troubles has put a chill on negotiations, according to sources. While the Blazers believe that Randolph possesses the talent worthy of a major contract extension, they aren't sure he has the maturity to handle it.

"Zach is an unbelievable player, but he has to grow up," one Blazers source told Insider. "We want to build around him, but he's got to prove he's ready to take on the responsibility. With all the problems we have had historically, we've got to be careful about who we give our money to."

After those four players, there are a number of other players who have a good shot at getting something done. The Sixers and Samuel Dalembert's agent, Marc Cornstein, met last week in an effort to hammer out an extension.
Dalembert, right, has tremendous promise that might earn a major paycheck.

Dalembert may be the toughest guy in the entire class to gauge. With his size (6-11), age (23) and the numbers he put up toward the end of last season (12.3 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 4.4 bpg), you could make the argument that he has the potential to be the best center in this class. However, the Sixers also worry that given his history of injuries and small resume, it's too risky to break the bank on him yet.

Dalembert isn't alone in this predicament. Eddy Curry, Kwame Brown, Joe Johnson, Vladimir Radmanovic, Jason Richardson and Tyson Chandler also all fall in the category of young, talented, but relatively unproven up to this point.

Will their agents work out a sort of compromise that exchanges some cash for a sense of security? One more marginal season from a guy like Brown or Curry and they might really have a tough time getting a big deal next summer (see Stromile Swift this year).

Or do you say no to an extension and roll the dice that the player has a breakout year this season? If a guy like Brown or Curry were to blow up, they'd be looking at near max dollars next summer.

When you factor in that the CBA is up for renegotiation -- and most believe that terms will come back less favorable for players in the end -- most agents are erring on the conservative side at the moment.

"There's a trade off that ends up happening," Cornstein told Insider. "You want a high number, but you also want to protect a player for his future. Many of these guys are so young, you can afford to take a little less now, knowing that they're still young enough to earn another huge contract down the road if they perform the way we believe they can."


Around the League

Remember our story on Monday about how many GMs in the league have really cooled to the idea of trading for Vince Carter. We give you Magic GM John Weisbrod as Exhibit A.
"There just aren't many scenarios you could draw up where we'd be a better team in acquiring him," Weisbrod told the Orlando Sentinel, "not when you factor in whom we would have to trade. I can say in no uncertain terms, we would not trade Steve Francis for Vince Carter."

"The more I'm around him, the more I'm a Steve Francis guy," Weisbrod said. "Don't get me wrong, Vince is an unbelievable athlete, but I'd rather have Steve Francis. Steve is a warrior."


Swift remains the only top free agent left without a contract. It's pretty clear at this point that another team isn't going to make an offer. The Grizzlies have offered Swift several multi-year deals, but he hasn't signed off on any of them.
Where does that leave him? The Grizzlies want to re-sign him, but they don't want to overpay. Look for Swift to either settle for the Grizzlies' offer or take their one-year tender offer. It's worth $5.9 million and Swift gets the bonus of being an unrestricted free agent next summer.


Teams are still making their pitches to free agent Karl Malone but have yet to hear back from the Mailman. What's the delay? Apparently, Malone still hasn't healed from his offseason knee surgery and still isn't 100 percent sure he'll play at all.
"He is working out and all signs are pointing to a 100% recovery, but that is still many months away," said Malone's agent, Dwight Manley. "There is no timetable."

The Lakers, Heat, Spurs and Timberwolves are all in the hunt.


The Cavaliers have been trying to sign free agent Keon Clark, but they can't seem to find him. If that isn't enough to change GM Jim Paxson's mind, I don't know what is.
Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
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9/24/2004  10:48 AM
Team-first all-stars hard to find

By Terry Brown
ESPN Insider

Where's Jeff Hornacek when you really need him?


Allen Iverson & Co. were criticized for their inability to adapt to the international style.
Where's the guy who can pass and dribble and shoot and take off his game shorts one leg at a time without tripping over his platinum medallion?

Maybe we finally get the point after watching our star-studded Olympic team get drubbed in Athens on the heels of the glamorous Los Angeles Lakers being dismantled in the playoffs by the blue-collar Pistons. So we've gathered a few scouts from around the NBA to help us put together a list of players who, in the words of Pistons and Team USA coach Larry Brown, play basketball the "right" way.

Instead of vertical leaps and wind sprints, we used such categories as court sense, chemistry, coachability, fundamentals and work ethic.

Originally, we wanted to rank each position player-by-player from 1 to 30, but our scouts balked. If they couldn't say anything nice, they weren't going to say anything at all, and there simply weren't enough praises to go around in these categories, which pretty much sums up the state of our national team.

Instead, we asked the scouts to give us their top 10 at each position.

Couldn't do it.

Top five?

Couldn't do it.

Remember, commercial endorsements don't count, nor do all-star credentials or highlight reels that blur out the scoreboard. We were looking for guys who could dribble with both hands -- without having to go between their legs while smiling at the camera with a bassline thumping in the background. We would settle for a layup if it came with a mid-range jumper. And we wanted as little ego as possible.

So we made it as simple as we could: Let's find 12 guys, one team, from among the 400 or so players in the NBA that best fit our criteria. Let's go with five guards, five forwards and two centers. And that would be our team that played the "right" way.

Forget the multi-karat earrings. We want a gold medal.

Today we'll look at the guards, with forwards Thursday and centers and a summary Friday. The numbers in each player's chart reflect the average of a 1-10 rating by our panel of scouts.


Jason Kidd, PG, New Jersey Nets
Court Sense 10
Lockerroom Chemistry 6
Coachability 6
Fundamentals 7
Work Ethic 9
Pluses: No better floor leader in the game today, with unparalleled passing skills and deceptive speed and strength.
Minuses: If he really is the consummate point guard of his generation, how come he could very well end up playing for five different teams while in his prime? And don't try to blame it all on the fact he may end up with the worst jumper in the entire Hall of Fame.
Scout's take: "Because of age and injuries, his game may not be what it used to be, but the fact that he's still at the top of this list proves how good that game really is."

Ray Allen, SG, Seattle SuperSonics
Court Sense 6
Lockerroom Chemistry 8
Coachability 8
Fundamentals 8
Work Ethic 8
Pluses: Not just a pretty face. But because he shoots so well, people often overlook the fact that his game is very well rounded. Sure, he leads the Sonics in scoring, but he's also second in assists, second in steals and third in rebounding.
Minuses: Maybe he's too nice. In eight seasons, he's participated in only 26 playoff games as a four-time all-star.
Scout's take: "You use his jumper to teach little kids how to shoot a basketball."

Mike Bibby, PG, Sacramento Kings
Court Sense 8
Lockerroom Chemistry 8
Coachability 8
Fundamentals 9
Work Ethic 8
Pluses: In this discussion of all-around skills and well-rounded players, has anyone ever said anything bad about Mike Bibby from the time he became the No. 2 overall pick in 1998 for the Grizzlies to his latest last-second shot for the Kings?
Minuses: Slowly becoming more shooting guard than point guard at 6-foot-1.
Scout's take: "He's not super-quick and not a super athlete, but he's fundamentally solid and has guts. His game is old school smarts."

Brent Barry, SG, San Antonio Spurs
Court Sense 7
Lockerroom Chemistry 8
Coachability 8
Fundamentals 8
Work Ethic 7
Pluses: When was the last time a slam-dunk champion shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from long range and 80 percent from the line? Well, Barry has done it -- twice.
Minuses: Has come off the bench for both the Clippers and the Bulls in the last seven years. That has to leave a mark.
Scout's take: "One of the most underrated players in the game today who can play both guard positions with either hand in any conference."

Fred Hoiberg, SG, Minnesota Timberwolves
Court Sense 9
Lockerroom Chemistry 9
Coachability 9
Fundamentals 7
Work Ethic 8
Pluses: Last year, he scored two or three baskets a game for the Timberwolves, but few noticed that the Timberwolves were winning games by two or three baskets.
Minuses: Hard to argue that he's not just a 3-point specialist when he's averaging only 18.7 minutes per game over his nine-year career.
Scout's take: "He just knows how to play the game. His basketball IQ has to be at the top of the league, and just as important, he knows his role."
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9/24/2004  10:49 AM
Glove would fit well in Boston
By Terry Brown
NBA Insider
Tuesday, September 14
Updated: September 14
9:22 AM ET


After 12-plus years in the same uniform, Gary Payton talked his way out of Seattle. Then he talked his way out of Milwaukee. Most recently, he talked his way out of Los Angeles. Now, with his Hall of Fame career in the balance, he is attempting to do the same thing in Boston, but he seems to be missing one major point.

Gary Payton needs the Celtics a lot more than they need him.

Gary Payton
Point Guard
Boston Celtics
Profile


2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
82 14.6 4.2 5.5 .471 .714


While with the Sonics, Payton made eight all-star teams, won two gold medals and was named the 1996 Defensive Player of the Year. In a city that once hosted Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez and Steve Largent, he became its most celebrated athlete. Owners changed, coaches changed and -- even after making it to the NBA Finals -- one superstar was exchanged, as Shawn Kemp departed and Vin Baker arrived. But Payton remained. He was the Sonics.

Then economics became a factor. Payton was nearing the end of his contract and was demanding a new, lucrative deal that would extend his stay in Seattle. He was 34 years old. Management wasn't interested in a long-term commitment and traded the point guard, who was averaging more than 20 points per game and 8.8 assists midway through the 2003 season.

While in Milwaukee, he posted nearly the same numbers, despite being in a new city with new teammates and running a new system. His 19.6 points and 7.4 assists per game more than validated his elite status in the league. But after 28 games and an early exit in the playoffs, he was a free agent. Of even more impact, he was as prideful as ever.

Payton would have it his way, playing where he wanted and when he wanted. Milwaukee wanted nothing of it, despite the fact the Oakland native had made a career of doing just that. He was, perhaps, the most prolific trash talker left in the league. He barked at coaches, teammates and referees. He openly challenged owners. But he backed it up on the court and missed only seven games in 13-plus seasons.

With Milwaukee reluctant to offer him a contract loaded with commas, he chose to play for almost nothing in Los Angeles, ignoring the fact that there were few, if any, other offers.

He seemed to think it was a privilege for the Lakers to have his services for such a low price, rather than viewing it as an opportunity for an aging point guard to join two of the best players in the NBA in an attempt to win his first NBA title. During one particularly tough stretch, with losses, injuries and bickering piling up, he barked out to the media that this was not what he had signed up for.


Payton's L.A. experience ended with humbling playoff matchups against younger, quicker guards.
It culminated in an embarrassing five-game Finals flame-out against Detroit, in which Payton posted a humbling 4.2 points per game on 32 percent shooting. He went 2 of 10 from long range during the series and 14 of 56 during the playoffs. He started games but no longer finished them. Opposing point guards went around him with ease. His bark no longer had any bite.

Soon enough, that minimum salary he disdained became his only salvation. Instead of opting out of his deal with the Lakers and trying his hand on the open market, where he had to know his stock had plummeted, he decided to remain with the team. But like Seattle and Milwaukee, Los Angeles had had enough of Payton and ignominiously traded him to Boston.

Payton refused to go, refused to take a physical and still has refused to report to the Celtics. He told the media he would, again, do it his way, on his terms. After all, he was Gary Payton.

The only problem, though, was that he no longer averages 20 points per game. He wasn't averaging 9 or 8 or even 7 assists per game. By the end of the NBA Finals, he was averaging 4.4 assists per contest, and Chauncey Billups, his Pistons' counterpart at point guard, was named MVP.

But here's where it gets really interesting.

The Celtics won only 36 games last year. They made the playoffs but got bounced by an average margin of 17 points per game. Their leader, Paul Pierce, never shot worse in his professional career. Their second-leading scorer was a cantankerous part-timer with a history of trouble. Their third-leading scorer was a journeyman now playing for his fourth team in five years. Their fourth-leading scorer averaged 5 points per game the season before. Their coach quit, their general manager was routinely booed for trading away fan-favorite, blue-collar players. And it appeared to most that the team was trying to tank the 2004 season in order to get a better draft pick.

This team didn't trade for an eight-time all star with two gold medals and a nifty defensive trophy. They traded for a guy with one year left on his contract.

The Celtics are not going to win the NBA title this season. They probably care less about making the playoffs if it means another chance at a lottery pick. Given the opportunity, they'd likely just as soon dump salary and become a major player in the free-agent market next year.

This season is already finished two months before it begins.

But what Payton is missing is that for the next 82 games, he could own this team. He could start every game, finish every game and, in between, absolutely dominate the ball, pounding it into the post all by himself, barking out orders and wearing that scowl. Nothing could make him happier. He could have it his way.

Kobe wouldn't be holding the ball. Shaq wouldn't be clogging up bottom of the key. Phil Jackson wouldn't be forcing him to run some esoteric offense that dulled his skills and will to win.

Last year, Payton began as the fourth option with the Lakers and finished as the sixth, fractions of a point ahead of Stanislav Medvedenko. This year, Payton would be the second option, with No. 1 gladly handing him the ball for more help and no No. 3 in sight.

He's got Jiri Welsh instead of Bryant. He's got Mark Blount instead of O'Neal. He's got a rookie named Al Jefferson rather than Karl Malone. He'll be playing against the Sixers, Raptors and Knicks for a playoff spot, not the Spurs, Timberwolves and Kings.

Let's not make any mistakes about this. This could be an 82-game redemption cycle for Payton. This isn't a career move. It's a career saver. Next year, he won't be with the Celtics, and the Celtics won't be with him.

But, exactly how many teams out there could he really start for, with his current credentials?

How many teams could he actually lead to the playoffs?

How many teams would give him the 1,000 shots that are going to be available with the Celtics?

In fact, this could very well be Gary Payton's last shot, if he would only report to Boston and take it. One good year could give him one last chance next season to sign as a free agent with the team of his choosing and one more run at that elusive championship. He could turn last year into an aberration, rather than the culmination of his career.

He has always been a fighter. This time, he simply needs to pick his fight.
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9/24/2004  10:49 AM
Allen, Sonics $30M apart?

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Ray Allen
Sonics
Sonics Sep. 9 - Depending on what report you take to heart, Allen's camp is either seeking a $100 million deal over a five-year contract extension -- about $30 million more than the Sonics are offering -- or neither side has submitted a proposal yet.
The Sept. 8 Tacoma News Tribune is the source of the Allen seeks $100M report; the next day, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported, citing multiple sources it did not name, that neither Allen nor team management has made a proposal. Neither Allen nor Sonics GM Rick Sund was available for comment.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Karl Malone
Lakers
Timberwolves
Lakers
Spurs
Heat Sep. 9 - According to a Sept. 8 report out of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the Timberwolves have joined The Mailman Sweepstakes. Coach Flip Saunders and Kevin Garnett reportedly will fly to Los Angeles to try to persuade Malone to defect from the Lakers and join the Timberwolves.
The Heat and Spurs reportedly have tried to woo Malone, who had been contemplating retirement. The Lakers are hoping he will return to them, even in light of the departures of Shaquille O'Neal and Gary Payton.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Peja Stojakovic
Kings
Kings Sep. 9 - Stojakovic, steaming after published criticism from teammate Chris Webber and the defection of close friend Vlade Divac, has calmed down and is not pressing his trade demand.
Stojakovic's agent told NBA Insider Chad Ford Sept. 8 that, after speaking with Kings owners the Maloof brothers, the sharpshooter knows the team has no intention of trading him.

That leaves Peja looking at two more years in Sacramento with Webber. But the agent indicates his client would love to extend his contract with the Kings, if "other changes were made." But Webber's contract is too heavy to move.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Alonzo Mourning
Nets
Sep. 1 - Mourning, who underwent a kidney transplant last year, has been working out diligently in Miami with an eye toward joining the Nets for the 2004-05 season. The Bergen Record reported on Aug. 31 that Mourning could announce his return to the Nets as early as this week.
According to sources, Mourning's workouts have been going well and he's hopeful that he'll receive the medical clearance he needs to return to the NBA.

"He's heading down that road," one league source told Insider's Chad Ford. "I expect that if things keep progressing the way they have been, he'll be playing next season."



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Eddy Curry
Bulls
Grizzlies Sep. 1 - The Grizzlies, as Insider first reported last month, are still trying to pry Curry away from the Bulls. They're offering Bonzi Wells (who is in the last year of his contract) and Bo Outlaw for Curry and Eddie Robinson.
That hasn't been enough to get Bulls GM John Paxson to bite, but as the summer wears on, his hand may be forced. The Bulls know that Curry will be a hot commodity next summer in restricted free agency and don't want to get into the same situation they found themselves in with Jamal Crawford this year. The team is understandably reluctant to give Curry a big extension now with his weight issues. The fear is that the minute he gets the guaranteed money, he'll quit working on his conditioning in the summers.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Zach Randolph
Blazers
Bucks? Sep. 1 - The Aug. 31 Oregonian reported Randolph, who might face criminal charges for misleading police investigating an Indiana shooting involving his brother, is rumored to be the center of a trade to the Bucks. The rumor: Randolph, swingman Derek Anderson and a 2005 draft pick might be exchanged for guard Michael Redd, swingman Desmond Mason and forward Marcus Haislip.
However, a league source told Insider's Chad Ford that there was no truth to the rumor and that the Bucks hadn't had any recent talks with the Blazers. That doesn't mean Blazers are done dealing. Sources close to the team concede that by the end of the summer one of their two big guys, either Randolph or Shareef Abdur-Rahim, will likely be traded.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Michael Curry
Raptors
Nuggets Aug. 31 - Free-agent small forward Michael Curry visits the Nuggets on Sept. 1, The Denver Post reports. Curry averaged 2.9 points and 1.2 rebounds for the Raptors last season. Free agent Jon Barry works out with Curry in Georgia. "He gets himself ready," Barry told The Post. "He's a consummate pro. A good guy to have in the locker room."


WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Vince Carter
Raptors
Knicks?
Hornets? Aug. 19 - Vince Carter reportedly wants to be traded, but talk of a Carter trade to the Knicks (it resurfaced in the New York papers on Aug. 19) is silly, says Insider's Chad Ford. The Knicks just don't have the assets to pull off a deal like that. They still have Kurt Thomas, who has some trade value. As does Nazr Mohammed. But Vince Carter? Please.


WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Stromile Swift
Grizzlies
Grizzlies
Hawks
Bobcats Aug. 19 - Swift has drawn interest from a number of teams, but the Grizzlies have refused to do sign-and-trades and have told teams they'll match any offer for Swift. There are two teams with enough cap space to make an offer to Swift that the Grizzlies might not be willing to match. The Hawks have $7.6 million in cap space available and the Bobcats have $7 million in cap space. Both teams could use him. But will they be willing to pay Swift that much cash to pry him away from Memphis? Now that the Grizzlies have lost out on Erick Dampier and seem to be getting nowhere in their attempts to pry Eddy Curry away from the Bulls, they can't afford to lose Swift. They've been claiming all summer they'll match any offer. Maybe they will.


WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Rodney White
Nuggets
Nuggets
Heat
Hornets Aug. 17 - Money isn't the only thing for free-agent swingman White, who told the Rocky Mountain News that he wants to play. "I just really want an opportunity," White said. "I played 13 minutes a game last year. I would like to play some more minutes. Last year, I was a great team player. I was consistent with my play. I really believe I deserve an opportunity to show what I can do."
White became a free agent after the Nuggets decided not to pick up his $2.5 million option. Denver now has only $2.3 million under the cap, meaning White would have to take a pay cut to return. "That would be a little hard to do," he said. "I let my agent work all that out. I'm preaching more situation than money. When I get the playing time, hopefully 2.5 won't even be what we'll be talking about. I just want the best situation right now. I'm not looking for the max dollars."



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jake Tskalidis
Grizzlies
Cavs Aug. 13 - The Cavs are looking for a backup center, and appear to have their sights set on the Grizzlies' Jake Tsakalidis, reports the Willoughby News-Herald. The Hawks' Scot Pollard could be a possibility for Cleveland.


WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jon Barry
Nuggets
Hawks
Nuggets
Clippers
Retirement? Aug. 12 - Barry, a free-agent guard, told the Rocky Mountain News he is receiving interest from four teams, including the Nuggets, for whom he played last season. The Hawks, SuperSonics and Clippers are also possibilities.
Denver GM Kiki Vandeweghe said he has recently spoken to the 35-year-old Barry, but has no immediate plans to sign him. The Nuggets have $2.3 million in cap space remaining. Barry said last month he'd consider retirement if he doesn't receive what he considers an acceptable offer.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jason Kidd
Nets
Mavericks
Lakers Aug. 5 - The New York Post reports that the Kidd-to-Mavericks trade may be 60 days in the making. The Mavs will acquire Jason Terry from the Atlanta Hawks as early as today, meaning that Terry can't be moved for two months, according to NBA rules. But the Mavs may be using this time to better evaluate the physical condition of Kidd, who is coming off of knee surgery.
"You have to put yourself in position to make something happen," president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson told the Fort Worth Star Telegram. "If you do the right things consistently with smaller moves, it's easier to do the bigger moves."

However, league sources claim that the Lakers, not the Mavericks, are the team Kidd really wants to play for. Look for the Kidd camp to keep pushing the Lakers to send the expiring contracts of Gary Payton and Rick Fox along with a young player like Caron Butler or Kareem Rush to the Nets in return for Kidd. The deal would give the Nets lots of cap relief along with a promising young player and give the Lakers the best backcourt in the NBA.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Blazers
Timberwolves Aug. 5 - The Blazers and Timberwolves continue to talk about a Shareef Abdur-Rahim-for-Wally Szczerbiak swap, Insider's Chad Ford reports. The issue right now is the other player the Wolves are willing to include in the deal to make the numbers work. Abdur-Rahim makes $14.6 million this season. Szczerbiak is due $9 million.
The Wolves really have only two options. They can either send center Michael Olowokandi or backup center Ervin Johnson back in the deal. The team is reluctant to part with either. Despite a slew of injuries, the team believes Olowokandi could be a force for them next season. Johnson is more expendable, but given Olowokandi's injury history, the team is worried about giving away Kandi's only back-up. The Blazers could include Vladimir Stepania in the deal to help the Wolves absorb the loss of Johnson and still make the numbers work.
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9/24/2004  10:49 AM
Sonics epitomize long shots
By Terry Brown
NBA Insider
Monday, September 13
Updated: September 13
12:49 PM ET


Ray Allen wants to be paid $100 million over the next seven years, not only because he is one of the best players on the Seattle SuperSonics but also because he is one of the best shooters in the NBA.

The problem, though, is that the Sonics are already paying Rashard Lewis, Vladimir Radmanovic and Flip Murray (as well as Brent Barry last year) to be Ray Allen.

During the 2004 season, the Sonics shot a whopping 1,936 3-pointers. The audaciously offensive Mavericks, by comparison, shot 1,456. The notoriously unbalanced Celtics shot 1,599. There wasn't a team in the NBA that was 300 triples close to these Sonics -- and that was with Allen injured for a substantial portion of the season.

Allen played in only 56 games last year and still put up 378 3-pointers. The only player to beat him in that category was Lewis, who had 386 attempts in 80 games. Right behind Allen was Radmanovic, who had 377 3-point attempts in 77 games. Add in Barry's 252 as the playmaker on the team and Murray's 229 off the bench, and you have the most prolific long-range team in the NBA.

But by all indications, Lewis wants to shoot more. In his first full season in the Sonic rotation in 2000, Lewis took 120 3-pointers. The next year, he became a starter and took 285 triples. Year after that, his long-range attempts were up to 316. Last year, he took 386.

Forget the fact that in Lewis' best season in the NBA, which just so happened to be in 2003, he took only 217 3-pointers and averaged a career-high 18.1 points per game. This kid has fallen in love with the long shot.

But he isn't the only one on this team. In Radmanovic's first season in the NBA, he shot 157 3-pointers while grabbing only 185 defensive rebounds as a 6-foot-10 power forward. The following year, he took 293 3-pointers compared to only 247 defensive rebounds. Last year, his third in the NBA, he took 377 3-pointers compared to 302 defensive rebounds.

The long shot became more than an offensive strategy for this team. It became a culture. Three out of every 10 shots were from beyond the arc as 2,169 of Seattle's total of 7,964 points scored were triples.

The Soncis' leading scorer was a small forward. Their second-leading scorer was a shooting guard. Their third-leading scorer was the back-up guard. Their fourth-leading scorer was Radmanovic -- a post player only by introduction -- and their fifth-leading scorer was the point guard.

The Sonics didn't have a power player who averaged more than 7.1 points per game. They also didn't have a single player who averaged more than 6.5 rebounds per game. They had only two players who averaged more than 0.6 blocks per game, and no one posted more than 1.4.

But here's the rub. They won only 37 games and missed the playoffs by six to a team that spent $14.6 million less on payroll.

Ray Allen
Shooting guard
Seattle SuperSonics
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2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
56 23.0 5.1 4.8 .440 .904



Allen becomes a free agent after next year and, according to reports, is asking for a six-year deal worth about $100 million. The Sonics are offering six years at about $70 million, which is curiously close to Lewis' deal that will pay him $65 million over his term; Radmanovic and Murray are also up for free agency next year, and Barry's already gone to San Antonio.

Let's say the Sonics are able to satisfy Allen at some compromised cost and retain Radmanovic despite his agent's obscene demands, then what are we to expect of them?

Two-thousand 3-point attempts?

Forty wins?

Allen is perhaps one of the best 10 or 15 players in the game today. He has shown that he can be more than just a shooter by upping his assist, rebound and steal numbers since coming to Seattle from Milwaukee.

But Allen and Lewis?

Allen, Lewis and Radmanovic?

Allen, Lewis, Radmanovic and Murray?

Put them all in a barrel, shake them up, use a blindfold and pull one out. Can you really tell the difference? Why not trade for Peja Stojakovic, Allan Houston and get Steve Kerr out of retirement. Because if the Sonics aren't careful over the next 82 games, they could turn their immediate future into one long 3-point shooting contest with little hope of coming out a winner.
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9/24/2004  10:50 AM
Will Peja, Baron and Shareef get their trades?

By Chad Ford
ESPN Insider

The summer of 2004 will forever be remembered for a number of things. More than 100 players changed teams this offseason. In the process, NBA free agents garnered an unprecedented billion-plus dollars in contracts from owners who claim they have no money. Our U.S. Olympic team failed to get the gold for the first time since Team USA began using NBA players. Kobe Bryant's long legal saga finally came to end.

But for my money nothing will have a bigger impact on the 2004-05 season than the trade demands of two NBA superstars. When Tracy McGrady told the Magic in June that he would opt out of his contract at the end of the season if the Magic didn't trade him and when Shaquille O'Neal threatened after the Finals to bolt the Lakers at the end of the season if he wasn't moved … the wheels of change began turning.

This was the summer of the trade demand. NBA superstars fed up with losing, constant personnel changes, team chemistry problems or just looking for some more cash began screaming that they wouldn't take it anymore. NBA owners and GMs, frightened by the prospect of a growing P.R. disaster, capitulated.

Neither the Magic nor the Lakers got full value for their superstars. Teams rarely do when a superstar demands a trade.

The Magic traded away arguably the best wing in the NBA for a point guard coming off the worst season in his career, an undersized two guard who shot 42 percent from the field and an overpaid big guy who averaged a whopping six points and six rebounds a game.

The Lakers got back more, but was it enough? GM Mitch Kupchak shipped out the most dominant big man in the game by a mile and got back an aging center with bad knees, a budding, versatile wing and a second-year small forward coming off a disastrous injury-filled season. Lamar Odom and Caron Butler might both prove to be all-stars down the road, but will they ever equal Shaq?

T-Mac and Shaq's trade demands, coupled with their teams' willingness to accommodate them, opened the floodgates. Several other players, including Kenyon Martin (in a sign-and-trade), Al Harrington, Jason Terry and Dikembe Mutombo, have been granted their trade wishes.
Stojakovic, right, wants to barge out of Sacramento unless "changes" are made.

A number of other top players throughout the league, including Peja Stojakovic, Jason Kidd, Baron Davis, Vince Carter, Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Gary Payton, have also demanded, in one form or another, a trade this summer if their various requests were not met.

What gives? Agents are asking their players if they are happy where they're at for the next six or seven years. With a new collective bargaining agreement being negotiated, there's a good chance that the rules regarding unrestricted free agency and trades will become more restrictive. If player wants out of a situation, now is the time to make it happen. It might be much harder to change teams after next summer.

T-Mac and Shaq both understood this, which is partly why they wanted out now -- before their respective teams had a chance to prove to them that they could turn it around. The reasons vary for the rest of the group. Some want more playing time. Others don't like their teammates. A few more are concerned about the direction their team is heading.

With less than a month to go before training camps, will any of the players with outstanding trade demands get their wish? Insider breaks it down.


Peja Stojakovic, SF, Kings
What's the beef? Stojakovic is still fuming over Chris Webber's tirade after the Kings lost in the playoffs. For most of the season, Stojakovic was a legit MVP candidate as Webber sat on the bench nursing a sore knee. When CWebb returned, the Kings free-flowing offense ground to a halt, the chemistry the team had enjoyed all season disappeared and Stojakovic's numbers, especially in the playoffs, plummeted. Webber insinuated afterward that Stojakovic and Vlade Divac weren't hard workers (a ludicrous claim coming from a guy who's constantly hurt). Within weeks the Kings decided not to re-sign Divac, Stojakovic's mentor, instead giving more money to Greg Ostertag. From there, Stojakovic had enough and asked the Maloof brothers to trade him.
Will he be traded? It doesn't look like it. Stojakovic talked with the Maloof brothers by phone two weeks ago and they told him they had no intention of trading him. Stojakovic's agent, SFX's David Bauman, told Insider on Wednesday that Peja isn't going to force the matter. "He has two more years left on his contract and he's going to honor them," Bauman told Insider. "He still hopes that the Kings will listen to him and grant his wish, but he understands this is a business. Sometimes players and teams just need a change. Peja loves the Kings and wouldn't mind finishing his career there if other changes were made." While Bauman wouldn't get into it, it's clear that those "other changes" mean the Kings dumping CWebb -- something that's almost impossible given the four years, $78 million still left on Webber's contract. A number of teams, including the Pacers and Suns, have made pitches for Stojakovic but the Kings aren't budging. Stojakovic is one of the great bargains in the NBA and the team's best shooter. If team chemistry continues to disintegrate during the season, then the Kings might look more seriously at a trade, but right now they feel like this issue can be worked out.

Jason Kidd, PG, Nets
What's the beef? When Kidd signed a six-year contract with the Nets last summer, the team was on the verge of an NBA championship. Alonzo Mourning, who signed alongside Kidd, was supposed to be the missing piece of the puzzle. Since then it's all gone downhill for Kidd and the Nets. Mourning's kidney disease got worse, forcing him to undergo a transplant. Kidd's knee broke down, causing him to have micro fracture surgery this summer and the Nets, under new ownership, decided they could no longer afford their second-best player, Kenyon Martin. They traded him for three future first-round picks. Once the team also dumped starting two guard Kerry Kittles, a furious Kidd flew to New Jersey and told the team that if things didn't change, he'd like a new home.
Will he be traded? Not right away. Kidd's agent, Jeff Schwartz, told Insider that Kidd hasn't formally demanded a trade. Instead he's registered his concern with the direction of the team. However, GM Rod Thorn's hands are tied and it actually makes sense for the Nets to accommodate Kidd's request. The two teams on the top of Kidd's list, the Lakers and the Mavericks, are interested if Kidd can prove that he's completely healed from his knee surgery. Kidd is rehabbing right now, but the general consensus is that he'll miss training camp and possibly the month of November. If he stays healthy and looks like the old Kidd, look for the Nets to cut a deal closer to the February trade deadline.

Baron Davis, PG, Hornets
What's the beef? Who knows? Davis stunned the Hornets last week with his trade demand. His agent, Todd Ramasar, claims that Davis is upset with the direction of the team, and wants to play in a place where he has a chance to win a title. With the Hornets moving West, the chances of the team doing it for the next several years is slim. Davis and Ramasar are also upset about the huge number of minutes Davis has to play there. He played the eighth-most minutes of anyone in the league last season. Given a history of knee and acl problems, that doesn't bode well for a nice, long career. Davis was also upset that the two players he was closest to on the team, Stacey Augmon and Courtney Alexander, were let go.
Will he be traded? Probably not. The team has been building around Davis and Jamaal Magloire and know that they can't get equal value in return. Hornets officials have been adamant both publicly and privately that they aren't trading him. They believe that this year's draft pick, J.R. Smith, has the potential to be a superstar and will be a nice partner to Davis in the backcourt. Davis' concerns are petty compared to most of the players on the list. He can complain about his minutes, but he didn't complain when he signed that max extension two years ago. Max players are expected to produce the type of numbers and minutes that Davis does. Neither Augmon or Alexander were key players on the team and as far as moving to the West goes, he's in the same boat with half the teams in the league. If the Hornets do trade him, it's because he has been unable to lead this team anywhere the past few years -- not because he demanded a trade.

Vince Carter, SG, Raptors
What's the beef? While Carter has never publicly demanded a trade, privately he's told everyone that will listen that he wants out if serious changes to the roster (which failed to happen this summer) weren't made. When Carter signed his extension with the Raptors, the team appeared to be on the verge of competing for an Eastern Conference championship. The team has been a disaster the past few years and a big shake-up at the top this summer didn't produce the management team or free agents the Carter was hoping for. This has been a long time coming. Carter has been eyeing a bigger stage to show his stuff off for years. His public flirting with the Knicks this summer should come as no surprise.
Will he be traded? The Raptors have tried. They've been in a number of discussions with teams, but despite a number of hot rumors this summer (Carter to the Knicks? Mavs? Hornets?) nothing has been close. The Raptors have their own questions about his durability and leadership, but the bottom line is that Carter puts fans in the seats. There are few NBA stars left who can do that and none of them are currently on the trading block. If the Raptors season is another disaster (it's shaping up that way) Carter will try to tighten the screws. But unless someone agrees to a fair offer for Carter, it looks like he's stuck in Canada for a little while longer.

Shareef Abdur-Rahim, PF, Blazers
What's the beef? Abdur-Rahim has been a starter his entire career. However last season, after a mid-season trade to the Blazers, head coach Maurice Cheeks decided to bring him off the bench. The Blazers believe that Zach Randolph is better at the four and last year Cheeks preferred Darius Miles to Reef at the three. At the end of the season, GM John Nash told Reef they'd try to trade him, but they've been underwhelmed with the offers for him. Cheeks, trying to mend fences, promised Reef the starting small forward job, but Reef claims he's a four and doesn't want to take Miles' job. In July his frustration spilled over and he not only demanded a trade, but threatened not to show up to training camp if he was still on the roster.
Will he be traded? Things don't look too good for Reef. The Blazers were very close to pulling the trigger on a deal a few weeks ago that would have sent Reef to the Timberwolves for Wally Szczerbiak. However, Randolph's little brush with the law caused them to pull back and reassess, essentially killing the deal. Abdur Rahim's agent, Aaron Goodwin claims that Abdur-Rahim may have no choice but to play for the Blazers next season. The team prefers to clear his $14.6 million salary off the cap next summer when he becomes a free agent. "We've made a number of attempts to work out a trades that worked for Shareef and the Blazers," Goodwin told Insider. "They turned down two very good deals which says to me that they aren't trading him. I think the writing is on the wall. I don't think they're willing to trade him." Does that mean that Reef will change his position and report to camp. "I don't know that," Goodwin said. "He's always been a consummate professional during his career in the NBA and doesn't want to jeopardize that. At the same time, I think it's clear that it would be better for both Shareef and the Blazers to work out a trade. We're still hoping, but things don't look good right now."

Gary Payton, PG, Celtics
What's the beef? Payton signed with the Lakers for below market value last season in an effort to win an elusive championship. After a disappointing season of turmoil with the Lakers, Payton agreed not to opt out of his contract after his agent, Goodwin, had a talk with GM Mitch Kupchak. According to Goodwin, Kupchak told Goodwin that the Lakers still wanted Payton around and that things would be better this season with coach Rudy Tomjanovich on board. Shortly after Payton decided not to opt out, the Lakers traded him to the Celtics -- a team with virtually no shot at winning a championship. Payton was furious. "I'll quit. I can go on and do something else. . .I ain't going to move my family no more. I can't take my family to Boston. It ain't no disrespect to Boston. . . Boston is going to lose out on this. They ain't going to get nothing.''
Will he be traded? The Celtics are waiting patiently. Payton still hasn't informed the Celtics what he's going to do. He hasn't demanded a trade, nor has he told him that he'll report to camp. "I don't know," Goodwin told Insider. "He's still upset and if you know Gary, you know there's no point in trying to convince him of something when he's hot. We're all just waiting for him to cool down. This has nothing to do with the Celtics. It has to do with the fact that Gary gave up an opportunity to play in his hometown (with the Warriors) to honor a commitment to the Lakers. He feels betrayed." Payton is due $5.4 million this year and can then become an unrestricted free agent again next summer. The Celtics want him and feel he could put up great numbers this season. But if he really doesn't want to come, look for the Celtics to talk to the Heat, Rockets and possibly the Clippers about a swap for Payton.

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Speaking of trade demands, another couple of them may be forthcoming soon. The Sonics and Ray Allen are reportedly pretty far apart on their negotiations for Allen. Allen is looking for a contract that pays him around $100 million for six years. The Sonics are looking for something in the $70 million range. That's a pretty big gap. Both sides are still talking, but given Allen's uneasy relationship with coach Nate McMillan and the fiscal situation of the Sonics -- is a trade inevitable?



Allen may not be the only Sonic looking for a new home soon. Insider has learned that Vladimir Radmanovic's agent sent a contract extension proposal to the Sonics two weeks ago asking for "near max" dollars. If the Sonics are reluctant to pay Allen that kind of money, you can imagine their reaction to that. The Sonics have rebuffed a number of trade offers for Radmanovic this summer and have told him that they want him back. But at those numbers?



It looks like Karl Malone has decided to play another season. Several NBA sources claim that he's been actively talking to teams about a return. The question is where. The Lakers, Spurs, Heat and Timberwolves appear to be the front runners for Malone's services, but so far he hasn't indicated to any of the four teams which way he is leaning. Of the four, the Spurs have made the biggest push for Malone as of late and he's intrigued.



The Sixers bought out the final four years of Greg Buckner's disastrous contract on Wednesday. Bucker was due $13 million over the course of those four years. According to reports, Buckner got around $8 million of the $13 million he had left on his contract. He averaged 13.3 mpg and 3.1 ppg for the Sixers last season. Look for him to land with the Nuggets, who have been actively combing the market for a back-up two guard to put behind Voshon Lenard.


Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
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9/24/2004  10:51 AM
Heat, Kings and Grizzlies still have work to do

By Chad Ford
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The free-agent frenzy is over, and a number of high-profile teams have a lot to show for it. With NBA spending at an all-time high and trades going down at a frantic pace, there is a growing parity in the league that gives hope to franchises that have had little to cheer about the past few years.

From Boston to Utah to Orlando and even Cleveland, GMs can stand up credibly after a busy summer and tell fans hope is on the way.

With all the focus the past two months on what teams have done in an effort to improve, it's just as instructive to look at what some teams have left to do.

Training camps start in less than a month, and a handful of potential contenders -- including the Heat, Grizzlies, Kings and Rockets -- are heading into the season with major holes left unfilled.

Today, Insider takes a look 10 teams that still need to make another move or two before training camp begins. Do the Heat have enough depth to make Shaq happy? Can the Kings add enough depth to make a difference in the West? Will the Grizzlies finally get their hands on a big man? Here's our take.


Miami Heat
Holes: Power forward, small forward
Skinny: Shaquille O'Neal is big. But can the Big Aristotle play three positions? He might have to this year to compensate for the Heat's shocking lack of depth. Miami had to give up three starters for one in the Shaq trade. While Shaq is an enormous upgrade over Brian Grant at center, the team has yet to adequately fill holes at the four and three left by the departures of Lamar Odom and Caron Butler.
The team signed sharp-shooting Wesley Person (5.8 ppg, 2 rpg in '03-04) to play the three and goes into opening day with second-year forward Udonis Haslem (7.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg) as the starting power forward. Their bench players at that position, third-year forward Rasual Butler (6.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg), veteran big man Malik Allen (4.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg) and second-round pick Matt Freije don't exactly inspire confidence on a team that has championship aspirations.

Miami's starting backcourt looks good, but there's little depth there, either. Dwyane Wade is a phenomenal talent, but is he really a point guard? He had better be. Damon Jones is coming off the best season of his career, but he's more of a gunner than a point. Keyon Dooling? He couldn't crack the Clippers' rotation. Eddie Jones has been great for the Heat the past four seasons, but he turns 33 in October and shot a career low 41 percent from the field last season. His backup, rookie Dorell Wright looks like he has a ton of potential. But when you consider he just graduated from prep school a few months ago, how much help is he really going to be?

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Memphis Grizzlies
Holes: Center
Skinny: Brian Cardinal might be the hardest-working guy in the NBA, but he isn't going to be the player who puts the Grizzlies over the top next season. Jerry West has been looking for a legit big man for the past two seasons but still keeps coming up empty. Stromile Swift and Lorenzen Wright were good for the Grizz last season, but West still wants an upgrade. The Grizzlies were the front-runners to land Erick Dampier in a sign-and-trade earlier in the summer, but the Warriors weren't interested in what the Grizzlies were offering.
Last month the Grizzlies turned their attention to landing a younger, but riskier big man -- Eddy Curry. The Grizzlies have a ton of assets to throw at the Bulls, and a trade that would send Bonzi Wells and a re-signed Swift to Chicago for Curry, Eddie Robinson and Chris Jefferies works under the cap. Bulls GM John Paxson has grown weary of Curry's inconsistency and lack of conditioning. He showed up at the Bulls' training facility 35 pounds overweight six weeks ago -- after vowing to get in the best shape of his career as the season ended. Since then, Curry has been working out consistently and has gotten his weight down below 290 -- svelte for Curry.

However, talks have cooled over the past few weeks since Curry began working hard. If the Grizzlies don't land Curry -- who's left? The Grizzlies have a ton of assets to work with. The team has an astounding 10 players on its roster who play guard. No one needs four point guards and six players who can play shooting guard, not even Hubie Brown. The team also has Swift, who's hoping a team works out a sign-and-trade for him.


Sacramento Kings
Holes: Depth at shooting guard, small forward and power forward
Skinny: Remember a happier time when the Kings sported one of the deepest benches in the league? Those days are now gone. The Maloof brothers had to spend so much money signing free agents like Chris Webber, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Doug Christie that they can no longer afford to pay the role players that once made the Kings so successful. While Sacramento continues to have one of the most impressive starting fives in the league, its bench is going to be a big issue this year.
With the exception of Bobby Jackson, who is great backing up Bibby, and big man Greg Ostertag, who the Kings added to help Miller, the Kings are shockingly shallow this year. The team is looking for rookies and one second-year player to help out the rest of the team's starters. That's pretty scary considering the team's injury history. The best of the group is second-year forward Darius Songaila, who was solid in limited minutes backing up Webber and Miller last season. Given that Webber misses, on average, around 20 games per season, will Songaila be enough?

The rest of the group consists of first-round pick Kevin Martin (who lit up the summer league), second-round pick Ricky Minard and international free agent David Bluthenthal. Will he be able to bail them out if Peja Stojakovic goes down with an injury?

While we're at it, let's not forget that Stojakovic is publicly demanding to be traded, and Webber privately supports the idea. GM Geoff Petrie claims the team won't trade Peja, despite strong interest around the league. The Pacers have talked with the Kings about a Ron Artest for Stojakovic swap. Another one that could make some sense? Stojakovic and Christie to the Suns for Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson.


New Jersey Nets
Holes: Power forward
Skinny: The Nets have yet to recover from losing Kenyon Martin to the Nuggets this summer. They attempted, to no avail, to get Shareef Abdur-Rahim from the Blazers. After that, there was little left on the market that made much sense for them. Now they're stuck with perennial backup Aaron Williams (6.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg), third-year forward Brian Scalabrine (3.1 ppg, 2.3 rpg) and undrafted rookie Kyle Davis. That's a far cry from the All-Star caliber numbers K-Mart put up last season.
The Nets will get some relief if Alonzo Mourning is healthy enough to play 20 minutes a game. That will allow them to move Jason Collins and, at times, rookie Nenad Kristic to the four when they need help. But if the Nets are going to contend this year, they really need someone capable of grabbing eight or nine boards a game.


Houston Rockets
Holes: Center, small forward, point guard
Skinny: The Rockets pulled off the second-biggest trade of the summer when they swapped three starters -- Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato for Tracy McGrady and Juwan Howard. A combo of T-Mac and Yao Ming should easily get the Rockets into the postseason next year. But you don't make a blockbuster trade like this unless you're gunning for a championship, and the Rockets still have some glaring weaknesses.

Can the much-traveled Mutombo provide the kind of Yao insurance the Rockets need?
Over the past few weeks the Rockets have made some solid moves. The team signed veteran guards Bob Sura and Charlie Ward to help out at the point. The trade for Dikembe Mutombo (to the Rockets for Eric Piatkowski, Adrian Griffin and Mike Wilks) should go through today. But is that enough?

Mutombo, when he's capable of actually playing, is the perfect back-up for Yao. But he hasn't been healthy in two years. There's a reason the 7-foot-2 former defensive player of the year has bounced around Philly, New Jersey, New York and Chicago in the space of two years. Teams aren't convinced Mutombo (who's generously listed at 38) has much left in the tank. Teams keep trading for him, hoping he still has some juice, but lately he has disappointed everyone. This is relevant to the Rockets, because they have no one else to back up Yao. Yao goes through a grueling offseason every year for the Chinese national team and has been incapable, in the past, of giving the team more than 30 mpg.

With Piatkowski out of the mix, Sura likely will be slotted as T-Mac's back-up at the two. That leaves Ward, Tyronn Lue and second-year guard Reece Gaines to battle it out at the point. The team is also thin at small forward, where veteran Jim Jackson will have to hold down the fort virtually by himself. Third-year forward Bostjan Nachbar and veteran Clarence Weatherspoon can both play the position, but neither has been effective lately.


Denver Nuggets
Holes: Depth at shooting guard, small forward
Skinny: The Nuggets, by all accounts, had a fantastic summer. They re-signed starting center Marcus Camby to a pretty reasonable deal, then went out and landed a potential all-star at power forward in Kenyon Martin. On paper, at least, the Nuggets look like they could be serious contenders in the West this season.
What they're still missing is any sort of depth at shooting guard and small forward. Carmelo Anthony and Voshon Lenard will reprise their starting roles there this season, but the Nuggets literally have no one behind them. They've talked to their own free agents like Jon Barry, Ryan Bowen and Rodney White, as well as a couple of the few free agents left on the market, such as Michael Curry. There isn't much out there, so the Nuggets may have to get creative with a trade or two to fill the holes. Nikoloz Tskitishvili is the bait. Will anyone bite?


Atlanta Hawks
Holes: Point guard, center
Skinny: The Hawks have made some progress this summer. They hired an up-and-coming head coach in Mike Woodson, made great trades for Al Harrington and Antoine Walker, and still kept their cap flexibility for next summer.
Still, this team has to play basketball, and cap space and a team full of shooting guards and small forwards -- they've drafted six in the past two years: Boris Diaw, Travis Hansen, Josh Childress, Josh Smith, Donta Smith and Royal Ivey -- aren't going to win them many games.

Tony Delk is the only guy on their roster resembling a point guard, and big guy Peja Drobjnak is the only guy who can play center. Both are career backups playing the two most important positions on the floor. There aren't any free agents left that make much sense.

The Hawks could try to use the remaining $7 million in cap space and make an offer for restricted free agent Stromile Swift, who spent most of his time last year playing center for the Grizzlies and played well. While his ideal position is power forward, in the East, he should be able to get along just fine as a center for one season. Once Walker comes off the books next year, Swift could move back to his natural position, and the Hawks could pursue a big in free agency with $15 million-plus in cap room.

The team has targeted free-agent point guard Kenny Anderson to help at the point. But how much does he really have left? He turns 34 in October and averaged just 20 mpg last season.


Toronto Raptors
Holes: Center
Skinny: New GM Rob Babcock knew the team had to upgrade the center postion this summer to have any real chance of competiting. They reached in the draft for BYU big man Rafael Araujo, then spent some of their free-agent money on journeyman Loren Woods. While, technically, this is an upgrade over what the team had last year -- nothing -- is it enough? Last season the team was forced to play rookie Chris Bosh at center. While he started strong, he wore down quickly and finished the season with a whimper. The Raptors want to move him full time to power forward this year, which means they probably need a lot more help at center. The team does have some assets to move. Donyell Marshall is in the last year of his contract and will be the odd man out if Bosh starts at the four. The team also can afford to move point guard Alvin Williams now that Rafer Alston is in the fold.

Seattle SuperSonics
Holes: Center, depth, talent
Skinny:The Sonics are in perpetual rebuilding mode. They made no significant improvements to a team that won just 37 games last year and lost their starting point guard, Brent Barry, to the Spurs. Danny Fortson should give the Sonics some needed toughness in the post, but there's a reason he couldn't get off the bench in Golden State and Dallas the past two seasons.
Stromile Swift would make some sense in Seattle, but the team knows the mid-level exception won't be enough to land him. There is significant trade interest in a number of Sonics, from Ray Allen to Rashard Lewis to Vladimir Radmanovic. However, the only guy they've been close to moving is backup point guard Antonio Daniels. Something has to give or the team faces the real possibility it will challenge the Clippers and Warriors for the worst record in the West.


Charlotte Bobcats
Holes: Point guard, shooting guard, small forward
Skinny: If the Bobcats go into opening night with the roster they currently have, the honeymoon's going to be over quickly in Charlotte. The Bobcats have a plan, and it's a good one. The team isn't overspending and has, instead, decided to focus on developing a number of young players, hoping to strike gold with one or two. However, their opening night roster is pretty miserable.
Emeka Okafor is the only legitimate NBA starter on the team, and he hasn't played a game. Jason Hart, Gerald Wallace, Jason Kapono, Melvin Ely, Brandon Hunter, Theron Smith, Tamar Slay, Primoz Brezec and Jamal Sampson are all intriguing prospects. But on most NBA teams, none of them would be getting more than 10 to 15 minutes a night. This is the Bobcats' core.

I'm not saying the Bobcats should do anything differently at this point. I think it makes some sense to make a run at Stromile Swift, though the Bobcats haven't shown any real interest so far. But after that, the team is probably better off hoping one or two of these guys pans out. Still, it's going to be ugly, Bobcats fans. As far as holes go, the Bobcats are the Grand Canyon of the NBA.


'Atomic Fly' Looking for Work
With so many teams needing to fill holes and so few quality free agents left on the open market ... what is an NBA GM to do? Several GMs, impressed with the play of some veteran international players in the Olympics, have been quietly probing around Europe hoping the missing piece to their puzzle might reside overseas.

So far, teams are coming away empty handed. Many of the players they now want -- like Lithuania's Sarunas Jasikevicius and Arvydas Macijauskas, Argentina's Fabrico Oberto and Greece's Lazaros Papadopoulous -- were available earlier in the summer but since have signed contracts or had their NBA escape clauses expire. Jasikevicius agreed on a three-year contract with Spanish club F.C. Barcelona that will commence after his contract with Maccabi Tel Aviv expires at the end of the coming season. While the contract does have an NBA escape clause, Barcelona is on the verge of making Jasikevicius one of the highest-paid players in Europe. NBA teams will no longer be able to get him cheap.

A couple of top international players are available however ... and some of them are willing to work cheap.


Gianmarco Pozzecco had no problem getting by Stephon Marbury in the Olympics
At the top of the list is veteran Italian point guard Gianmarco Pozzecco. Known as the "Atomic Fly" in Europe, Pozzecco is one of the quickest, most exciting players over there. He's also one of the wildest, which is why he has never gotten a serious look from NBA scouts. However, over the past two seasons, he's settled down considerably and was the biggest reason an underdog Italian team won the silver medal in Athens.

Pozzecco's age -- he turns 32 in a week -- and his size -- he's listed at 5-foot-11 -- are both major obstacles to overcome. But he called me over the weekend and claims he's willing to come off the bench and play for the NBA minimum just to get a shot at the NBA.

"I have this dream of being an NBA player," Pozzecco told Insider. "I think that the NBA teams they see that I can play against anybody. They cannot defense me. I make my teammates better. If Tim Duncan is on my team, I get 20 assists per game. I just want the possibility to show everybody what I can do. I'm sure I could give help."

Pozzecco, along with his attorney, Cristiano Carugati, has been contacted by several interested teams. Pozzecco is a free agent and has held out from signing a contract in hopes an NBA team will come calling. They're telling everyone the same thing -- Pozzecco is willing to take a big pay cut to play in the NBA. With so many teams in need of a veteran point guard, could Pozzecco be the answer?

He has the quickness and floor vision NBA teams like. He also has a flair to his game that has made him a fan favorite in Europe over the past five seasons. He's not the greatest shooter, and size and defense will be big issues ... but as a back-up?

One NBA GM, who is considering making a run at Pozzecco and did not want to be identified, claims he should be in the league. "Our coaches always complain that we don't have enough guys who understand the game and how to run a team. This guys does. I've watched him mature over the past few seasons. He used to be out of control. But he's really come into his own lately. He could play 15 to 20 minutes a night on a good team. I think someone will sign him."

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9/24/2004  4:19 PM
Raven going off! You go boy.
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nykfan4life
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9/24/2004  10:06 PM
ESPN Insider is a waste of money, you pay for stuff that is 99% BS or pretty obvious insights that any good Sports fan is already aware of.
i.e. Prospects of trading Carter look slim! NO kidding Chad!

ESPN is BS!
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9/24/2004  10:12 PM
True, ESPN is alot of BS, but during the offseason, even some BS is refreshing. Perfect example would be the Carter to NY talks. I think we debated that to death.
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9/25/2004  10:03 AM
Posted by nykfan4life:

ESPN Insider is a waste of money, you pay for stuff that is 99% BS or pretty obvious insights that any good Sports fan is already aware of.
i.e. Prospects of trading Carter look slim! NO kidding Chad!

ESPN is BS!

Happily for me, I'm jsut a part of a long long chain of guys that forward it to others... i like that : =)
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9/27/2004  10:33 AM
I had insider for awhile, and I agree the articles are mainly summaries from other articles with an attached opinion from the author, usually brown or ford.

What I did like though were the draft stories, which were definitely unique espn content, and the site lines (changed the name apparently, dunno to what) which were all the nba related articles on the net searchable per team etc, which was pretty neat as that was ready way before hoopshype or insidehoops updated their rumors page.

All in all, insider is pretty much negligible, but as a hoops junkie you pretty much want to have your fix in case you'd miss something, which you won't

I am pretty upset though that espn hasn pretty much moved all the chats to insider instead of free content, might have to reconsider getting a subscription again

[Edited by - knicksbabyyeah on 09/27/2004 10:34:46]
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9/28/2004  4:02 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

All in all, insider is pretty much negligible, but as a hoops junkie you pretty much want to have your fix in case you'd miss something, which you won't

you said it ! I just need something to read about hoops. Insider comes almost everyday which helps him endure the offseason... sad life.
various insider articles

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