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TLover
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6/2/2019  11:44 AM
Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

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martin
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6/2/2019  11:49 AM
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

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6/2/2019  12:03 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

Good point....they will try and get something in return.....instead of letting him walk free. Why does this feel like melo trade again. At least Melo was NYC born. AD is a cali guy.

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6/2/2019  12:14 PM
No to trading the farm away for anyone, even if it's AD.
Rose is not the answer.
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6/2/2019  12:29 PM
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

Good point....they will try and get something in return.....instead of letting him walk free. Why does this feel like melo trade again. At least Melo was NYC born. AD is a cali guy.

Why does this feel like the Melo trade to you? Nothing has even happened besides the **** up with the Lakers last year

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6/2/2019  12:36 PM
knickstorrents wrote:No to trading the farm away for anyone, even if it's AD.

Knicks should take the OKC (Paul George) or Toronto (Kawhi) approach in trading for a mega-star: don't go overboard.

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6/2/2019  12:46 PM
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

The problem with waiting a year, is you still have to move all the same guys to clear the cap space needed to sign him, so what's the point in waiting a year?

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6/2/2019  12:49 PM
martin wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:No to trading the farm away for anyone, even if it's AD.

Knicks should take the OKC (Paul George) or Toronto (Kawhi) approach in trading for a mega-star: don't go overboard.

I agree, I draw the line at Mitch. If you look at what butler, Kyrie, Paul George and Kawhi got back, it wasn't that great. Problem is the lakes are making a crazy pitch. However if the owner is really determined not to send him there, then we don't have to match it.

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6/2/2019  2:16 PM
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

You really think KD would sign with us without another max player coming with him? I don't and i'm not sure how anyone doesn't know by now that Kawhi is going to LA whether that be the Clips or Lakers and the only thing that could change that is Toronto winning it all and him deciding to stay and he might even stay without winning it all but he's not coming to New York......Unfortunately.

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6/2/2019  4:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2019  4:26 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

You really think KD would sign with us without another max player coming with him? I don't and i'm not sure how anyone doesn't know by now that Kawhi is going to LA whether that be the Clips or Lakers and the only thing that could change that is Toronto winning it all and him deciding to stay and he might even stay without winning it all but he's not coming to New York......Unfortunately.

Kawhi found his star tandem Robin in Toronto Raptors teammate the young Siakam, who will get the most improve player of the year. After the Raptors beat the STACKED Philly 76ers on Kawhi bounce .. I see Kawhi resigning with the Raptors.


I hated the Knicks Melo trade by owner Dolan in 2010-11 season, because Melo had to many flaws in his performance and poor team chemistry with teammates as a Denver Nugget. Melo has always been a shoot-first individual Isolation NBA player. The best player the Knicks received in the Melo trade were Chauncey Billups.
Don't confuse Melo with AD!
Now AD are a All-around winning NBA Super-Star that even Lebron James were willing to sell the Lakers farm to get as a teammate. The trio of Rondo Lebron and AD would have set new records in the western conference if Pelicans would have made the trade with Lakers in January.

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6/2/2019  5:20 PM
To get the cap space for AD.......The price to clear it out was KP. Forget Janis and the bullshyt for a minute, think about KP as part of any trade to Pels. If your giving the two Dallas picks, our third this year, Mitch Robinson and frank or Knox?????

Basically its All that for AD and DSjr.

Sorry, that's a haul.

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6/2/2019  7:00 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

It seems like there are 3 or 4 trade options for AD. The Lakers, which NOLA might have no interest in doing business with. The Celtics, the Knicks and maybe the Nets and Clippers. If none of those teams are willing to make big trades for AD, knowing he’s headed into free agency, NOLA might have no Other choice.

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6/2/2019  7:19 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

It seems like there are 3 or 4 trade options for AD. The Lakers, which NOLA might have no interest in doing business with. The Celtics, the Knicks and maybe the Nets and Clippers. If none of those teams are willing to make big trades for AD, knowing he’s headed into free agency, NOLA might have no Other choice.

I dont think thats the way life works. AD has already told NOLA that he wants to go.... letting him walk for nothing is not going to happen.

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6/2/2019  7:51 PM
martin wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

It seems like there are 3 or 4 trade options for AD. The Lakers, which NOLA might have no interest in doing business with. The Celtics, the Knicks and maybe the Nets and Clippers. If none of those teams are willing to make big trades for AD, knowing he’s headed into free agency, NOLA might have no Other choice.

I dont think thats the way life works. AD has already told NOLA that he wants to go.... letting him walk for nothing is not going to happen.

I understand that. What I am trying to say is that it’s possible that maybe NO teams are willing to trade for him considering the facts that he’s a FA next Summer AND he might not re-sign with them. Why should a team give up so much knowing they have that type of leverage? NOLA is probably screwed.

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6/2/2019  7:53 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
martin wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

It seems like there are 3 or 4 trade options for AD. The Lakers, which NOLA might have no interest in doing business with. The Celtics, the Knicks and maybe the Nets and Clippers. If none of those teams are willing to make big trades for AD, knowing he’s headed into free agency, NOLA might have no Other choice.

I dont think thats the way life works. AD has already told NOLA that he wants to go.... letting him walk for nothing is not going to happen.

I understand that. What I am trying to say is that it’s possible that maybe NO teams are willing to trade for him considering the facts that he’s a FA next Summer AND he might not re-sign with them. Why should a team give up so much knowing they have that type of leverage? NOLA is probably screwed.

Just like how the Knicks shouldn’t have traded for Melo knowing full well he really only wanted to play here and would probably only sign here that next Summer. Giving up everything for AD would be a stupid Dolan move.

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6/2/2019  11:01 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

do you think Pelicans will let AD go into free agency or trade him before that?

Hold strong with a trade proposal of #3, both Dallas picks,& DSJr & maybe take back a contract.
Basically what we got in the KP trade plus the #3 pick.

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6/3/2019  4:10 AM
Rumors that Bulls and Suns would trade their first for Lonzo, so the Lakers could offer the Pels Garland (or whoever they pick at 4th) plus the 6th or 7th pick, plus their young guys, plus future picks- lets hope the pens owner is very spiteful!
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6/3/2019  6:49 AM
I think it plays out that while he doe not have a no trade clause, he an tell Nola here he’d like to go and resign.
Kawhi made no such pledge about Toronto but they understood that when they made the deal.
OKC did this with Paul George and it was assumed he’d go free agent to play in LA.
Nola only cares about getting the best trade done. Usually a team that AD commits to resigning can provide a better return via trade.
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6/3/2019  7:38 AM
smackeddog wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

The problem with waiting a year, is you still have to move all the same guys to clear the cap space needed to sign him, so what's the point in waiting a year?

If we move people to make space for AD, can't we trade players for future draft picks then? I forget salary cap rules here, maybe we can't.
This is all based on AD not signing long term with LA, which with their supposed offer, he probably would do.
So, even though I'm not wanting to trade the farm again like we did for AD, due to LA or Boston, we almost have to pony up, no?

I would prefer to get two max cat FA's and grow our team, but I know, that is probably not gong to fly for KD and co. We probably still have to at least trade most of our young guys for some proven guys to play with KD and co. The big IF is AD's health. Oh no, not again.

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6/3/2019  8:12 AM
NotInMyHouse wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
TLover wrote:Knicks should focus on signing either KD or Kawahi then use the rest of the $ on 1 yr contracts to D.Jordan (KD’s buddy and Mitchell’s mentor), Ricky Rubio or re-sign Mudiay, Kadeem Allen, pick up player options of Trier & Kornet. Draft Barrett.

AD could possibly be had the following season without giving up any assets.

The problem with waiting a year, is you still have to move all the same guys to clear the cap space needed to sign him, so what's the point in waiting a year?

If we move people to make space for AD, can't we trade players for future draft picks then? I forget salary cap rules here, maybe we can't.
This is all based on AD not signing long term with LA, which with their supposed offer, he probably would do.
So, even though I'm not wanting to trade the farm again like we did for AD, due to LA or Boston, we almost have to pony up, no?

I would prefer to get two max cat FA's and grow our team, but I know, that is probably not gong to fly for KD and co. We probably still have to at least trade most of our young guys for some proven guys to play with KD and co. The big IF is AD's health. Oh no, not again.

AD going to a team he prefers that will have his bird rights will be very attractive. With his health “issues” that 5th year at like 50mil is a big deal.

We should bid I’m but only to drive up the price. If we could “steal” him it should be attempted. Low probability on that. Maybe there is an opportunity in the negotiations to be a facilitator on a secondary deal?

KD here and our time line with such a young team is something I don’t get, but then its super early in the process.

Love AD but wait a year for him..

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