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OffDaMeterzzzz
Posts: 20120 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/6/2005 Member: #1052 |
5/30/2019 1:25 PM
knicks1248 wrote:OffDaMeterzzzz wrote:Hi all:
Although super talented and entertaining to watch I'm not a fan of either Durant or Irving. I also don't think they are coming here. I think it's just media fluff, but I could also be wrong. I once believed that we had a real shot at Lebron in 2010 because of the mystique and glorious history of NY and MSG. All in all, I would prefer we built our team organically from the draft instead of signing free agents from other teams. For me, it would feel pure and authentic to have success with a team built from the ground up rather than chasing other team's superstars. On the flip side, I wouldn't say no to bringing in Durant either. I hope we decide to do one year (short term) manageable, movable contracts if we we get turned down by KL, KD, KI, KT, JB. We can then continue to stockpile assets, draft picks, cap space, and try again when the time is right. Otherwise we could be setting ourselves up for more of the same rinse, cycle, repeat. There's no rule stating the need to rush the rebuild. |
KnickDanger
Posts: 24054 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
5/30/2019 3:48 PM
OffDaMeterzzzz wrote: I hope not. One or the other perhaps? It would be overpaying but that's how it goes. But signing both at max...ugh. It would tie up cap space and leave us with rookies and marginal players going forward. Really, I am one of the few who'd prefer a slow rebuild through the draft, then some smart trades or FA's. Of course that is easier said than done. The only players I'd be good with at max really are Kahwi and KD. If you gotta sign someone else to go with them then so be it. |
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
5/30/2019 4:06 PM
ODM, I remember you. I enjoyed your posts....
I am completely against this though. I’d rather sign nobody. I’ll take Walker if you get KD or Kawhi. That’s about all. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Nalod
Posts: 68682 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
5/31/2019 6:38 AM
Kemba is what he is. Is he to enhance a talented but very young squad.
Tobias Harris. Its not how he is you pay for, its what you project he could still be. The brilliance in moves is not to pay for what has been but what can. Durant/Kyrie are proven so its easy to project but age will matter. Young player on the rise represents potential. What’s funny is sometimes fans think the past is like some genetic heredity markers that will repeat itself. True only if Dolan insists his team make the same thinking over and over. I’d like to think we broke that chain. ITs why when Mills signed Hardaway it did not bother me. Why? At that moment he was seen as having more potential and I’d rather pay a premium for that then a starphuch premium for something in the past that likely won’t be replicated. LIke we did with Amare. I’m down with Durant at his current prime but expect a decline. While positioning makes no sense a Durant/Harris pairing might represent a player in his prime and one still to reach his. Both have risks. This shyt is hard. |
Knixkik
Posts: 34908 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
5/31/2019 10:49 AM
Walker would be fine. He's a good player who was built for NY and is low-baggage. He stays healthy and can lead the way while the young guys develop. No one would be expecting a title, but he would improve the team and allow guys like Barrett, Knox, and Mitch to continue to grow at their own rate. No to Harris though, he doesn't really bring anything new to the table and isn't a star.
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Nalod
Posts: 68682 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
5/31/2019 12:11 PM
Knixkik wrote:Walker would be fine. He's a good player who was built for NY and is low-baggage. He stays healthy and can lead the way while the young guys develop. No one would be expecting a title, but he would improve the team and allow guys like Barrett, Knox, and Mitch to continue to grow at their own rate. No to Harris though, he doesn't really bring anything new to the table and isn't a star. I want stars, or guys that will be stars. Im ok with Rookies but know not all turn out. More rookies, more chance one or more can be a star. |
fwk00
Posts: 22130 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/20/2015 Member: #6048 |
5/31/2019 12:20 PM
Who is Tobias Harris?
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37559 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/31/2019 1:31 PM
fwk00 wrote:Who is Tobias Harris? I think it's this guy. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
5/31/2019 11:22 PM
TripleThreat wrote:If they go this route, I think they sign a high character vet to a one year deal that might be an over pay. Hinkie was a master with the cap floor He always got a player at the deadline that brought the sixers up to the floor for the last 1/3 of the season.Allanfan20 wrote:ODM, I remember you. I enjoyed your posts.... I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Nalod
Posts: 68682 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
6/1/2019 7:24 AM
Sixers paid Reddick 24 mil one year. I thought it was nuts, but he turned out to be a really valuable piece of what they did. I think he pulled down 12 last season.
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y2zipper
Posts: 20946 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2010 Member: #3287 |
6/1/2019 12:53 PM
The approach to long term contracts is you have to get a number one guy before a number 2 guy, etc... Signing Kemba and Harris together makes no sense on thay regard.
Ones out there are Durant, Leonard, and Jimmy Butler to a lesser extent. You don't bother picking up Irving, Walker or Harris if a one doesn't sign. |
BigDaddyG
Posts: 37559 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/1/2019 3:16 PM
Interesting if true. Wonder if Charlotte has already made it's peace with Kemba's departure.
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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90sKnicks
Posts: 20122 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 2/23/2017 Member: #6452 |
6/1/2019 6:12 PM
Here's the quick synopsis for the Knicks guide to free agency.
FRANCHISE PLAYERS If either of these two players want to come here, you don't think twice and you give them the max. If both come, then the Knicks are guaranteed to be a Top 3 team in the league. GREAT PLAYERS BUT NOT FRANCHISE PLAYERS If you are able to pair Durant or Leonard with Thompson or Walker then you do it and you are a Top 6 team in the league STAY AWAY - DO NOT SIGN Let these players be some other team's problem. STAY AWAY! GOOD PLAYERS BUT NOT WORTH A MAX DEAL These players are solid players and players i like. I just don't think they are worth a max contract nor do i think you can win if they are your 1st or 2nd best player. I would take any of them if the price was reasonable but it won't be. Let some other overpay and regret it.
In summary, if the Knicks can get Kawhi or Durant and pair either of them with Klay or Kemba that would great. If they can pair Kawhi and Durant together that would be amazing. However, Klay isn't coming to NY so that is not going to happen, so basically it's Durant/Kawhi and Kemba. If not, then don't waste the money on anyone else, save cap space for future years or consider trading for Anthony Davis if you don't have to give up Mitchell Robinson or the #3 pick. Commit to a rebuild the right way. We're only year 2 in the rebuild mode (which started when we traded Carmelo). There's no need to get impatient and overpay non-franchise players like Kyrie, Butler, Cousins, Harris, Middleton, or Russell. And no need to give up everything for Davis. |
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
6/2/2019 11:48 AM
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
6/2/2019 11:51 AM LAST EDITED: 6/2/2019 12:04 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rumor-sixers-going-max-jimmy-210031199.html
Saying Kwahi is going to sign a sbort term deal with Toronto. Wish we could offer short term deals to some of the players I hear the Knicks are targeting. |
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
6/2/2019 11:53 AM
Rumor: Sixers going to max out Jimmy Butler to try to keep him https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rumor-sixers-going-max-jimmy-210031199.html |
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
6/2/2019 12:06 PM
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