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5/14/2019  9:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2019  9:05 PM
Giants and Knicks both draft Duke QBs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836216-rj-barrett-says-hes-best-player-in-2019-nba-draft-ahead-of-lottery

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5/14/2019  9:08 PM
Sambakick wrote:Giants and Knicks both draft Duke QBs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836216-rj-barrett-says-hes-best-player-in-2019-nba-draft-ahead-of-lottery


he is incredible. I am excited
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5/14/2019  9:11 PM
So if they can sign KD and Kyrie, not a given now, IMO.

Mitch/kornet
KD
Knox/LT
Barret/Dotosn
Kyrie/Dsj/Frank

IMO, not good enough.


As for Ja -

Conley has 2 years left...after this year, Memphis gets cap space. I think they take the best player available. They will need it.

Yet another mistake by Dolan. When will it end?
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5/14/2019  9:16 PM
Caseloads wrote:
Sambakick wrote:Giants and Knicks both draft Duke QBs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836216-rj-barrett-says-hes-best-player-in-2019-nba-draft-ahead-of-lottery


he is incredible. I am excited

Steve Nash is his Godfather. He played with his father on the Canadian national team.

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5/14/2019  9:20 PM
One of the most controversial players in terms of views from NBA scouts and NCAA "experts."

NCAA lovers go bananas over him. Some NBA fans do too, but some have serious doubts.

It's not even clear we keep this pick at all.

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5/14/2019  9:24 PM
Sambakick wrote:
Caseloads wrote:
Sambakick wrote:Giants and Knicks both draft Duke QBs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836216-rj-barrett-says-hes-best-player-in-2019-nba-draft-ahead-of-lottery


he is incredible. I am excited

Steve Nash is his Godfather. He played with his father on the Canadian national team.


I think his dad played for St. John's, so there is a ready made NYC connection

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5/14/2019  9:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2019  9:42 PM
The extra money for the 3rd pick puts us under 2 max slots if we retain Trier and Dotson I believe
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5/14/2019  9:41 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Trade the pick for Beal

No.

Title odds are 200:1. So you're saying there's a chance!
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5/14/2019  9:42 PM
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Jmpasq wrote:Trade the pick for Beal

No.

At least Beal can shoot

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5/14/2019  9:45 PM
It’s too early in the draft game to know what will happen. Both Ja and RJ offer great intangibles as well as question marks.

I’m not even sure Memphis has it clear either.

While Zion is the clear #1, the first intrigue will come at #2. Unless one of them distance himself from the other, it will be a close battle between the two.

I’m so glad we didn’t fall off the top 3.

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5/14/2019  9:50 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Trade the pick for Beal

No.

At least Beal can shoot

My goodness. So you aren’t a pure shooter like Curry, you can’t shoot. Got it. So much fun to reduce players to the tired stereotype everybody repeats without thinking.

Is Barrett a finished product? No.

Guess what? Not even the expected #1 pick is. While everyone is excited about Zion, his question marks are really scary for a #1 pick. Ja has his questions as well. Why?

Because they are prospects!! They can and will improve.

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5/14/2019  9:53 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Trade the pick for Beal

No.

At least Beal can shoot

My goodness. So you aren’t a pure shooter like Curry, you can’t shoot. Got it. So much fun to reduce players to the tired stereotype everybody repeats without thinking.

Is Barrett a finished product? No.

Guess what? Not even the expected #1 pick is. While everyone is excited about Zion, his question marks are really scary for a #1 pick. Ja has his questions as well. Why?

Because they are prospects!! They can and will improve.

Yeah I think the whole "he cant shoot" thing is overblown. Its fair to say he had issues but that can be corrected. Kid is a hell of a player and can play both sides of the court
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5/14/2019  9:55 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Trade the pick for Beal

No.

At least Beal can shoot

My goodness. So you aren’t a pure shooter like Curry, you can’t shoot. Got it. So much fun to reduce players to the tired stereotype everybody repeats without thinking.

Is Barrett a finished product? No.

Guess what? Not even the expected #1 pick is. While everyone is excited about Zion, his question marks are really scary for a #1 pick. Ja has his questions as well. Why?

Because they are prospects!! They can and will improve.

Yeah I think the whole "he cant shoot" thing is overblown. Its fair to say he had issues but that can be corrected. Kid is a hell of a player and can play both sides of the court

If he develops a better shot, he’ll have just as much potential as Zion.

Title odds are 200:1. So you're saying there's a chance!
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5/14/2019  9:56 PM
Trading this pick would be crazy.

Look, everyone knows Zion is going #1.
Before all the ESPN highlights, before the season started RJ was the consensus #1.
This will be an easy pick to make. Whoever of Ja or RJ isn't picked 2nd, we take.
Simple.

Start scouting for next draft.

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5/14/2019  9:57 PM
Sambakick wrote:Trading this pick would be crazy.

Look, everyone knows Zion is going #1.
Before all the ESPN highlights, before the season started RJ was the consensus #1.
This will be an easy pick to make. Whoever of Ja or RJ isn't picked 2nd, we take.
Simple.

Start scouting for next draft.

Eggxactly!

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5/14/2019  10:21 PM
Ja Morant does not have question marks. Zion's question marks...his weight. Barrett's question marks...his shooting
Ja Morant is like a better Westbrook the way he carved his competition. He's a good consolation prize I'd be ok with.
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5/14/2019  10:25 PM
Cartman718 wrote:Ja Morant does not have question marks. Zion's question marks...his weight. Barrett's question marks...his shooting
Ja Morant is like a better Westbrook the way he carved his competition. He's a good consolation prize I'd be ok with.

Isn’t the fact that he played in an inferior league his biggest question mark? How about the turnovers? Thought those were quite assumed

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5/14/2019  10:30 PM
martin wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:Ja Morant does not have question marks. Zion's question marks...his weight. Barrett's question marks...his shooting
Ja Morant is like a better Westbrook the way he carved his competition. He's a good consolation prize I'd be ok with.

Isn’t the fact that he played in an inferior league his biggest question mark? How about the turnovers? Thought those were quite assumed

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5/14/2019  10:33 PM
Well, I'm glad as heck that we didn't fall more in the draft. We still will get a consensus top-3 player. It doesn't mean they'll necessarily pan out as the top 3 players in the draft class 5 or 10 years down the road, but we'll deal with that later.

The Grizzlies have an interesting choice here - will they bank on Ja learning PG from Conley while playing SG? (2 scoring guards with PG skills is all the rage in the western conference finals!) Or will they go for a more traditional fit with Barrett?

Clearly the decision from the Knicks' standpoint is easier - take whoever isn't picked. RJ is easier to rationalize for the Knicks as well, as we still have to figure out what to do with our PG situation. We've been talking about Kyrie/Kemba, though if the Grizzlies draft Ja, Conley might become available via trade. Plus we still have DSJ and Ntilikina under contract, and who knows if Mudiay will take less to play for Fizdale. Lots of PGs.


Of course there's this debate - whether Culver is going to be a better player than Barrett. Culver has a higher floor at this point, having had experience playing a supporting role on a good team. All RJ knows is being an alpha, though he had to share the spotlight (and did so exceedingly well) with Zion as a teammate.

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5/14/2019  10:34 PM
martin wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:Ja Morant does not have question marks. Zion's question marks...his weight. Barrett's question marks...his shooting
Ja Morant is like a better Westbrook the way he carved his competition. He's a good consolation prize I'd be ok with.

Isn’t the fact that he played in an inferior league his biggest question mark? How about the turnovers? Thought those were quite assumed

It is an inferior league, but he still willed his team to the touranment. In 33 games this past season, he had 10+ assist games 19 times. Turnovers....yes a bit concerning but only because he's not playing with NBA teammates with better skill sets.
FYI...Curry averages 3 TOs for his career. Literally no one uses that as a barometer for him because he does so many other things great.

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