Nalod wrote:

Marv wrote:

Chandler wrote:I don't see AD going to LA. Too much bad blood from last year. Can't imagine Griffin is psyched with helping out Lebron either

Celts are in turmoil now. If Kyrie stays they have chemistry issues. IF he goes then why would Boston want AD, to pair him with a bunch of non-superstars like he had in NOLA? I don't see them including Tatum. We might think that's fair value but Ainge will offer assets like Brown, Rozier et al,

Zion did not look happy about NOLA. Is there anyway he throws a hissy fit like (was it) Danny Ferry and forces a trade?

ferry backed it up by playing overseas to force the trade.

Forgot about that. He forced the trade from the CLippers to play in Cleveland. Thats how bad playing for a sterling owned team was then. SoCal to Ohio. Wow!!
They likely got Zion out of there as any small slip could have had consequences regarding shoe deals and other considerations. Smart move. Kid is under a microscope. THere was a moment he was 50-50 going to NY or LA. Then it was between Memphis or Nola. Can’t hide that shyt! HE has yet to hire an agent and if there is any thought to pulling a power play picking the right guy to do that is still on the table. Ferry’s dad was long time Bulletts/Wizards GM Bob Ferry and he obviously knew his stuff. Orchestrating that potential exile to Europe was a masterstroke if staying away from Clipperland was the objective.

For the 100th time, AD to Knicks would weaken them. Kyrie can play with Durant or AD. If he stays Boston gets depleted. They likely lose Horford and depth. Haywood is not a good trade asset. He can play with Durant and depth. It’s not just year one, its a 4 year thing. My view is Durant and depth is better than AD and not.

If he hasn’t hired an agent, he can still play another season at Duke as well. I still think he’ll play with the Pelicans but if he had to choose between getting paid sheot in Europe or playing for Duke, I think he would take Duke.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Marv wrote:

Chandler wrote:I don't see AD going to LA. Too much bad blood from last year. Can't imagine Griffin is psyched with helping out Lebron either

Celts are in turmoil now. If Kyrie stays they have chemistry issues. IF he goes then why would Boston want AD, to pair him with a bunch of non-superstars like he had in NOLA? I don't see them including Tatum. We might think that's fair value but Ainge will offer assets like Brown, Rozier et al,

Zion did not look happy about NOLA. Is there anyway he throws a hissy fit like (was it) Danny Ferry and forces a trade?

ferry backed it up by playing overseas to force the trade.

Forgot about that. He forced the trade from the CLippers to play in Cleveland. Thats how bad playing for a sterling owned team was then. SoCal to Ohio. Wow!!
They likely got Zion out of there as any small slip could have had consequences regarding shoe deals and other considerations. Smart move. Kid is under a microscope. THere was a moment he was 50-50 going to NY or LA. Then it was between Memphis or Nola. Can’t hide that shyt! HE has yet to hire an agent and if there is any thought to pulling a power play picking the right guy to do that is still on the table. Ferry’s dad was long time Bulletts/Wizards GM Bob Ferry and he obviously knew his stuff. Orchestrating that potential exile to Europe was a masterstroke if staying away from Clipperland was the objective.

For the 100th time, AD to Knicks would weaken them. Kyrie can play with Durant or AD. If he stays Boston gets depleted. They likely lose Horford and depth. Haywood is not a good trade asset. He can play with Durant and depth. It’s not just year one, its a 4 year thing. My view is Durant and depth is better than AD and not.

If he hasn’t hired an agent, he can still play another season at Duke as well. I still think he’ll play with the Pelicans but if he had to choose between getting paid sheot in Europe or playing for Duke, I think he would take Duke.

Im sure you're right, guess it will be official when Zion has one. Would likely be too expensive to trade for him, on the very off chance that Zion tried to force his way out.

Cartman718 wrote:People here talking about “but we had an 86% chance we wouldn't get #1”. Well guess what pelicans and grizz were 94% in that chance

Its like the power ball lottery. The odds are better to get hit by lightening. Someone will win. Buy more tickets increase the odds.
Knicks like Suns and Cav's had the best odds but still was stacked against them.
Each pick out did not increase our odds. At the "final 4" the logic was we had the best chance but it was already determined. Take the emotion out and just look at the math.
Does it make you feel better? Of course not!
I had us pegged at 5th given the math. You might think we fell 2 spots down or I might thing we moved two spots up. Since the odds were out there before the season started all is fair in my view.
Did we "tank", "Suck", or "Fundamentally rebuild"? Since Tanking is mathematically ignorant and once evident there was no miracle to our roster we fundamentally did what teams should do with a youthful roster and the construction of how it was put together. Give them minutes as they earned it, give young guys opportunities, and remove players like Enes that did not fit in our plans.

The benefits? Unseen given the record but here we are. Can draft the next Paul George/Harden type talent (they were not hyped out of college) or all star potential guard, have some damn good rookies on the bench and unprecedented cap space. Its going to be interesting at the very least. Sun fans were thinking Zion or Ja will be awesome!! They fell to their odds. Same as ours.

smackeddog wrote:This new system sucks- what are the Cavs meant to do? No one wants to sign there, they don't have enough talent, yet they could be stuff in the cellar for years and years due to such low lottery odds for the worst teams.

Cartman718 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:This new system sucks- what are the Cavs meant to do? No one wants to sign there, they don't have enough talent, yet they could be stuff in the cellar for years and years due to such low lottery odds for the worst teams.

For the love of God, Cavs have had more #1 picks since Lebron than like 2-3 lottery bound franchises combined!

So what is a bad team in an unpopular area supposed to do? When they're just a bad team, they're not tanking, they're just genuinely bad? How do they get out of it?

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LegendD wrote:3rd pick... I think it's karma, because Knicks trade away own superstar KP... and now a large part of Knicks fans laughs at the KP fight incident... so Knicks got back karma