Nalod wrote:Uptown wrote:Nalod wrote:GSW fist title was a godsend. The path was paved by injuries and they sustained.
They got three titles in 5 trips. Pretty damn good! You know the longer you look at history, the more Phil Jax stands taller. The Bulls and Lakers were two stars and a lot of role players. THey were awesome!!!
GSW has defined the decade. Great team and stands on its greatness. Toronto got Lebron out but still had to deal with leagues best Milwaukee and the freak.
If you are only gonna have 2 superstars on a team, it helped phil a lot by having the best player to ever play the game during one run, and two of the top ten players to ever play the game on one team.
Jordan was 26 and in the league 6 years when Phil became his coach. He as not the Goat yet.
Kobe was a 22 year old in his 4th season when Phil took him on. Shaq Stature was already set.
Kerr took Curry to two time MVP. MDA took Nash to similar levels.
All these guys were allstars and destined to be allstars and perhaps HOF prolific scorers. PHil made them Goats. This fiction that Phil walked into greatness is nonsense. These guys bought into something and achieved more AFTER Phil became their coach.
OKC had KD, Harden, Russell, Ibaka and a good bench and did't win a championship.
this idea that winning is just talent is a bunch of blatant nonsense perpetuated by people who will say anything to discredit Jackson because he failed as Knicks prez
No one would argue about the importance of talent, but there's a lot more to it than that, starting with chemistry, self-sacrifice, common purpose etc. And of course it would be a greater accomplishment if Jackson had won with a bunch of scrubs.
even in the Holy Trinity Miami years, the Heat only won 2 of 4, and one of those two years the refs gave them a gift in the Boston series
the fact that Phil may have sucked as president does not mean the current FO is any better -- either as a factual or logical matter. As it stands, the facts are we came off a 17 win season, we completed the disillusionment of our best draft pick in a generation (who knows; maybe he couldn't be "righted" but we'll know soon enough if this was a smart move or dumb one), we criticized Phil for devaluing Melo (where subsequent events proved his lack of value) and then in the next breath we devalue a young pg who plays D (who at least, unlike Melo, is not a prima donna).
I think there are a lot of folks who (perhaps rightfully) blasted Phil who are now faced with the proposition that we can go from bad to worse. As it stands, us being on the upswing is based purely on hope and conjecture at the moment -- not evidence
As a fan i will continue to root for them and would prefer to win than be right in my assessment of the FO; but it ain't looking good