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knicks1248
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3/4/2019 12:17 PM LAST EDITED: 3/4/2019 12:19 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2822874-metrics-101-exposing-the-nbas-worst-defender-at-every-position?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba#slide3
DBPM: minus-2.5 THAT RECENT CLEVELAND LOST, WAS a perfect example of our bad he is, because when he came back in the game, we were horrible bad in an instant why did the FO and the coach PREACH, DEFENSE..DEFENSE..DEFENSE AS THE #1 PRIORITY all summer long, and then go out and draft a guy who had major defense question marks and motor issues coming in. He's worse than Melo, Amare and kanter.. ES
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anrst
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3/4/2019 1:51 PM
he's gassed. the guy isn't strong enough. he hit the rookie wall a long time ago and isn't coming through it.
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Kemet
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3/4/2019 3:13 PM
anrst wrote:he's gassed. the guy isn't strong enough. he hit the rookie wall a long time ago and isn't coming through it. Yeah! Knox hit the rookie WALL late in Dec. however, Knox selfish individual no defensive-effort performance has been GREAT for the Knicks inexperience head coach Fizdale race toward ZION. |
fitzfarm
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3/4/2019 4:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2822874-metrics-101-exposing-the-nbas-worst-defender-at-every-position?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba#slide3 Man the kid is 19!consistancy is the number one issue with ANY 19 year old... kids probably going to be the next Paul George by the time he’s 22... remember PG13 sucked his rookie year too. |
newyorknewyork
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3/4/2019 4:49 PM
Knicks got trashed for the last player they picked in the lottery for defensive purposes. Knox has pretty much performed like a 2nd round pick. But there is no agenda after him so he can rest easy being 19 years old.
There is no proven formula to the lottery as much as people tried to make it seem that way last draft. You take players who are young and have potential. And try to weigh on how they will improve their games and weaknesses. How strong is their work ethics? Do they have high characters? Do they love and live for the game or is it just a job? https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37533 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
3/4/2019 5:14 PM
fitzfarm wrote:knicks1248 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2822874-metrics-101-exposing-the-nbas-worst-defender-at-every-position?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba#slide3 I agree with everything you said, except the Paul George part. George was a legitimate rotation player his rookie year. He was also older when he came into the league. I don't see Knox being Paul George, but I can still see him developing into a frontline starter. It's tough for many teens to get their footing, especially in a freelance office like this. At least wait for him to get season in. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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GustavBahler
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3/4/2019 5:30 PM LAST EDITED: 3/4/2019 5:30 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks got trashed for the last player they picked in the lottery for defensive purposes. Knox has pretty much performed like a 2nd round pick. But there is no agenda after him so he can rest easy being 19 years old. If Knox was showing the same offensively challenged game that Frank has shown since being drafted, you would hear a lot more concern. Knox was named rookie of the month for his production on offense. Not one good game, then weeks (if not months) before we see another good one. Like we saw often with Frank. Knox doesnt look as fast as he did early in the season, looks spent. Frank got 20 minutes every game like clockwork his rookie season. Cant remember another Knicks rookie in recent memory who was treated with kid gloves the way Frank was. Was the right thing to do, given his age, new to this country, the NBA, and his lack of conditioning. Knox hasnt had that kind of consistency in his minutes, or his place in the rotation. |
arkrud
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3/4/2019 6:58 PM LAST EDITED: 3/4/2019 6:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks got trashed for the last player they picked in the lottery for defensive purposes. Knox has pretty much performed like a 2nd round pick. But there is no agenda after him so he can rest easy being 19 years old. We are discussing 2 teens in the league of Superhumans. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Ira
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3/4/2019 7:15 PM
Taking the long view, Knox is helping the Knicks get a better chance of drafting Zion.
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Jmpasq
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3/4/2019 7:18 PM LAST EDITED: 3/4/2019 7:45 PM
TLover wrote:Knox does play with cinder block shoes and is not a small forward. He needs to bulk up in the offseason and play the 4. If we do get the #1 and draft Zion, then will look to trade him. I think he is gone for cap space if we get stars I believe his game is hopeless. Kid is a chucker with nothing else to his game. If he was just shooting poorly I could see him turning it around but he does Nothing well. If we can trade him for a protected first and cap space this off-season it should be done, Frank too. Mitchell, DSJ, Dotson, and Trier are the only ones worth keeping Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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Swishfm3
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3/4/2019 7:35 PM
fitzfarm wrote:knicks1248 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2822874-metrics-101-exposing-the-nbas-worst-defender-at-every-position?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba#slide3 ummm...That's definitely not true |
fitzfarm
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3/4/2019 9:52 PM
knicks1248 wrote: I couldn’t disagree more, what kind of 19 year old do you know that is mentality peeked, and if so the world is more scary place then I originally thought. I feel just from personal experience you always evolve over time, I know I will be wiser then I am now, 5 years from now. And I’m a lot older then 19 As a ball player your athletic peak is 28-32 . That’s 10 years away for Knox.... the kid probably still has his mom cook him food. He has to learn how to have a better work ethic. If knox puts in the work and is motivated the sky is the limit. I have seen Knox show flashes on both ends. I expect Knox to become a all star in this league ... he is neither mentally developed or physically developed and he surely will be a smarter player in 6 months from now and he’ll be a way smarter player 5 years from now at the ripe age of 24.
I agree Knox is struggling and has hit numerous rookie walls. There still is no denying his talent in his draft class he’s still a top 10 pick.
Let’s learn from our mistakes and not give up on a 19 year old kid loaded with untapped talent... |
fitzfarm
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3/4/2019 10:08 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:fitzfarm wrote:knicks1248 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2822874-metrics-101-exposing-the-nbas-worst-defender-at-every-position?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba#slide3 Umm yea he did the guy shot 29% from 3 and averaged 7 pts per game . Knox is averaging almost 13 pts a game. Oh and PG13 was still a wimpy kid in college at 19... he didn’t even debut till 20 and a half . PG13 had a very underwhelming rookie year. So Knox is almost averaging double what PG13 did his rookie and Knox is doing it a whole year younger ... Give the child a chance to mature, if the pacers gave up on PG13 after a aweful rookie showing and traded him they would have never got the haul they did from OKC .... if they did trade him after a dismal rookie season... it would have been a very knick like move to give up on a young talent like PG13. Again let’s not throw a 19 year old kid under the bus for being a 19 year old kid playing vs grown men. |
Cartman718
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3/4/2019 10:11 PM
anrst wrote:he's gassed. the guy isn't strong enough. he hit the rookie wall a long time ago and isn't coming through it.Sure looks like it Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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