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ekstarks94
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1/28/2019  1:35 PM
Chips as we speak are being pushed to the center of the table..

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1/28/2019  1:42 PM
I do a KP for Davis as a centerpiece.
But they will need more.
I sort of send a back channel Russian to ask KD what he thought of it.
Or Kyrie. Just saying.
KP, Knox and hardaway for Davis and Holiday.
Im biased, If Frank is not that valuable via trade as implicated by those who don't really know, then I'd just as soon keep him. That's three starters for two.
but I have to know I got cap space for a Free agent and its either Kyrie or Durant.
KP and our first rounder? That's tough cuz if its Zion and he trans ends either Davis or KP then we gonna look stupid.
I can handle the losing. I can handle looking stupid. I can't handle both.
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1/28/2019  1:46 PM
So what's the plan? Everyone but KP? We aren't trading KP there. He won't want to be there, and if we want loyalty from him, we need to give it back. But everything on the table (including 1st round pick) except KP makes sense.
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1/28/2019  1:48 PM
Knixkik wrote:So what's the plan? Everyone but KP? We aren't trading KP there. He won't want to be there, and if we want loyalty from him, we need to give it back. But everything on the table (including 1st round pick) except KP makes sense.

How do you know what KP wants or would not want?

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1/28/2019  1:51 PM
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1/28/2019  1:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2019  2:03 PM
We should not trade for him. It will leave the Knicks in a Melo situation. We should wait for his free agency.

KP, AD, Zion, Hardaway and Ntlikina. Would win some games. Or we can complete deplete the roster.

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1/28/2019  2:03 PM
EnySpree wrote:

I said months ago Pels should see KP as attractive as given he is a marketable star.
MY preference is the deal expands to get knicks the cap space to get a free agent star.
We need a path for three all stars. Need not happen all in season one.
You get AD in here knicks will win some games. AD is better than KP sitting!!! KP playing might win some games also.
KP and first round pick protected top three with Hardaway? You have to protect the pick because Zion could be better than either davis or KP. Not saying that's how it goes down. Does NOla have the cap space? Im just throwing concepts around. Sub out the pick for Knox.

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1/28/2019  2:05 PM
Vmart wrote:We should not trade for him. It will leave the Knicks in a Melo situation. We should wait for his free agency.

KP, AD, Zion, Hardaway and Ntlikina. Would win some games. Or we can complete deplete the roster.

AD is "NOT" making it to free agency...

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1/28/2019  2:08 PM
Nalod wrote:I do a KP for Davis as a centerpiece.
But they will need more.
I sort of send a back channel Russian to ask KD what he thought of it.
Or Kyrie. Just saying.
KP, Knox and hardaway for Davis and Holiday.
Im biased, If Frank is not that valuable via trade as implicated by those who don't really know, then I'd just as soon keep him. That's three starters for two.
but I have to know I got cap space for a Free agent and its either Kyrie or Durant.
KP and our first rounder? That's tough cuz if its Zion and he trans ends either Davis or KP then we gonna look stupid.
I can handle the losing. I can handle looking stupid. I can't handle both.

I think bringing in both A.Davis AND J.Holiday would eliminate any possibility of bringing in K.Durant or K.Irving.

Any A.Davis trade has to start with K.Porzingas. I would NOT include this years first round pick. I normally wouldn't care about trading picks and if this was a year ago, would not had hesitated to suggest Porzingas & the 2019 first pick but I am completely SOLD on BOTH Z.Williamson and RJ Barrett (maybe even Cam Reddish).

I believe K.Porzingas and T.Hardaway for A.Davis is a fair deal for both teams. A.Davis may be a star NOW but KP is projected to be just a big as NBA Star has he is. They only thing that really hurts us is that ACL injury but AD has a history of being injury prone.

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1/28/2019  2:08 PM
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:We should not trade for him. It will leave the Knicks in a Melo situation. We should wait for his free agency.

KP, AD, Zion, Hardaway and Ntlikina. Would win some games. Or we can complete deplete the roster.

AD is "NOT" making it to free agency...

Why wouldn’t he make it to FA. He already said he isn’t signing. He will make it FA. No one is going to want to rent him as he is probably going to leave for Lakers.

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1/28/2019  2:11 PM
Nalod wrote:
EnySpree wrote:

I said months ago Pels should see KP as attractive as given he is a marketable star.
MY preference is the deal expands to get knicks the cap space to get a free agent star.
We need a path for three all stars. Need not happen all in season one.
You get AD in here knicks will win some games. AD is better than KP sitting!!! KP playing might win some games also.
KP and first round pick protected top three with Hardaway? You have to protect the pick because Zion could be better than either davis or KP. Not saying that's how it goes down. Does NOla have the cap space? Im just throwing concepts around. Sub out the pick for Knox.

Should have kept reading the thread...agree with everything. Like the idea of the TOP 3 protected.

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1/28/2019  2:22 PM
AD only makes 24 million... this is not a Melo situation. We don't have to trade KP and the 1st together. We offer the 1st, Timmy, Mitch and Frank and that's it.... we don't have to do anything else. If they don't like that then take the bull**** deal the Lakers are gonna give them.

Our return? We get AD and KP together... we still have Knox.... we still have cap space to sign a point guard, maybe Rubio for instance. Then we start Trier or Dotson at the 2. So, AD, KP, Knox, Rubio and Trier.... that's not worth the ride?

If not we walk away and start the course. I see alot of anxiety here. Chill

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1/28/2019  2:35 PM
I would not trade KP for AD

I would definitely trade the pick

Then I would start waiting outside Kemba Walker's house RIGHT NOW

I feel like that would be what Amar'e/Melo should have been: a great PG distributing to the high or low post, depending on what the defense gives

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1/28/2019  2:37 PM
I don't see a trade where both teams agree on the terms. Only hope is to wait until the draft. If the #1 pick is landed then an either or situation could be worked out with Zion or KP and another piece or 2 for AD. Looking to make a move for him now would mean offering more and unless Hardaway and Lee are moved in the deal. Would also eat up the cap to add a free agent to give AD help as well as knock our lotto pick out of the top 3 range. We would have limited ability to build a contender around AD other than the left overs from the trade panning out.

Boston has a bunch of future draft picks as well as current productive pieces. They can legit offer Hayward, Rozier, Brown and rights to the Grizzlies pick which is top 6 lotto right now. Still fall back on a Iriving, Tatum, AD, Hortford, Morris, Smart rotation.

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1/28/2019  2:53 PM
EnySpree wrote:AD only makes 24 million... this is not a Melo situation. We don't have to trade KP and the 1st together. We offer the 1st, Timmy, Mitch and Frank and that's it.... we don't have to do anything else. If they don't like that then take the bull**** deal the Lakers are gonna give them.

Our return? We get AD and KP together... we still have Knox.... we still have cap space to sign a point guard, maybe Rubio for instance. Then we start Trier or Dotson at the 2. So, AD, KP, Knox, Rubio and Trier.... that's not worth the ride?

If not we walk away and start the course. I see alot of anxiety here. Chill

That's a good take too. Lakers can offer some mix of players but NONE has the upside that KP has.
Pels like most teams need a bankable star. Thus they might be more drawn to KP as a center piece.
In my dream fantasy I have KP and Hardaway for AD. Naturally AD will resign. Since he stated he won't sign extension he will be traded. Question is does AD approve a NY deal? He wants to go to a contender which neither LA or NY is.
Now if Durant or Kyrie are in play and we get some of that, well there is now a host of possibilities including Trading Knox if need be.
Chips need three stars.
After months of embattlement with Rainman over the validity of Frank I have lost all objectivity to include him in any deal. Teams win championships with players like that. Players that play defense and are unselfish. If his value is as reported not so high, so why trade him??

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1/28/2019  3:02 PM
Nalod wrote:
EnySpree wrote:AD only makes 24 million... this is not a Melo situation. We don't have to trade KP and the 1st together. We offer the 1st, Timmy, Mitch and Frank and that's it.... we don't have to do anything else. If they don't like that then take the bull**** deal the Lakers are gonna give them.

Our return? We get AD and KP together... we still have Knox.... we still have cap space to sign a point guard, maybe Rubio for instance. Then we start Trier or Dotson at the 2. So, AD, KP, Knox, Rubio and Trier.... that's not worth the ride?

If not we walk away and start the course. I see alot of anxiety here. Chill

That's a good take too. Lakers can offer some mix of players but NONE has the upside that KP has.
Pels like most teams need a bankable star. Thus they might be more drawn to KP as a center piece.
In my dream fantasy I have KP and Hardaway for AD. Naturally AD will resign. Since he stated he won't sign extension he will be traded. Question is does AD approve a NY deal? He wants to go to a contender which neither LA or NY is.
Now if Durant or Kyrie are in play and we get some of that, well there is now a host of possibilities including Trading Knox if need be.
Chips need three stars.
After months of embattlement with Rainman over the validity of Frank I have lost all objectivity to include him in any deal. Teams win championships with players like that. Players that play defense and are unselfish. If his value is as reported not so high, so why trade him??

I agree that it is a good take. I personally think that if the Knicks are somewhat patient, the best offer the Pelicans could get is something like our pick, THJ, and Frank. I don't really see another team beating that. If you want to include another young asset in case of emergency, fine, but I can't see another team topping that offer, especially when our pick could very well be Zion

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1/28/2019  3:03 PM
KP, next years 1st,Hardaway for AD..Im not going no further.....
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