I had nothing better to do...so I tried this trade and it worked...

New York trades: PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 12.8 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (7.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 20.1 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 31.9 minutes)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
New York receives: C Jerome James (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.2 minutes)
PF Mark Madsen (3.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 17.3 minutes)
SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.2 minutes)
C Michael Olowokandi (6.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, -1.9 rpg, and -3.0 apg.

Seattle trades: SG Ray Allen (23.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.4 minutes)
C Jerome James (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.2 minutes)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 30.2 minutes)
Seattle receives: PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 66 games)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
$ 3 milllion in cash from Knicks
Change in team outlook: -2.9 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Minnesota trades: PF Mark Madsen (3.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 17.3 minutes)
SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.2 minutes)
C Michael Olowokandi (6.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 21.5 minutes)
Minnesota receives: C Nazr Mohammed (7.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 80 games)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 80 games)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
Change in team outlook: +1.0 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

Toronto trades: SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Toronto receives: SG Ray Allen (23.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.8 apg in 56 games)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 77 games)
Change in team outlook: +6.5 ppg, +2.9 rpg, and +0.9 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to New York, Seattle, Minnesota and Toronto being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New York, Seattle, Minnesota and Toronto had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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Seattle gets some frontcourt muscle in KT...they also get Vince who will pair off with Lewis at the 2 and 3....

Potapenko/Collison/Young
KT/Fortson
Lewis/Evans
Carter/Flip
Ridnour/Daniels

Toronto gets more than enough for Vince in Allen and Radmonovic....

Arujo/Moiso/Woods
Bosh/Marshall/
Rose/Radmonovic/Palacio
Allen/Peterson/Mason
Alston/Williams/Pape

Minny gets good solid role players for the ones with questions they give up.

Nazr/Johnson
KG/Ebi
Murray/Anderson
Sprewell/Hassell
Cassell/Hudson/Hoiberg

The Knicks get some big contracts, but they get some players with large potential.

Olowakandi/James/Sundov
Sweetney/Baker/Madsen
TT/Wally/JYD/Ariza
Houston/Crawford
Marbury/Penny/Brewer

"I had nothing better to do..."

next time get a dirty magazine and have some quality alone time

Posted by crzymdups:

Fictional answer:

Yeah, this trade is intense. I'd say it actually looks shockingly fair, except for Minnesota. They need more, or they've no reason to do it.

I think what might more realistically happen is the Sonics and Raptors trading Vince for Ray Ray with some pieces thrown in.

I noticed that...but I look at like this....
#1-Minny may look at this as addition by subtraction....Olowakandi is a bust by all accounts and Wally doesn't get along with KG and I can't see how he can not be a loner in that locker room. Plus they get rid of some massive contracts.

#2-Wally is hurt alot, they hardly get any production from him, these guys will at least produce.

#3-The guys they are getting would thrive in their offense. Shandon and Lamond are great running players and Nazr would be one of the better centers they've had.

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by fishmike:

"I had nothing better to do..."

next time get a dirty magazine and have some quality alone time

I already did that.

Man I'm surprised you guys are so low-tech!

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by fishmike:

"I had nothing better to do..."

next time get a dirty magazine and have some quality alone time

I already did that.

Man I'm surprised you guys are so low-tech!

So am I! You have to PAY for magazines; the internet is free and from what I've heard, has better material

"From what I've heard"....riiiiigggghhhhtttt......

Can't we throw in Frank Williams? Maybe nobody would notice!

Posted by TMS:

joe, have TOR throw in a 1st round pick & NY give up a future 1st round pick along w/a 2nd round pick this coming season (all going to Minny), & i think it works out better all around.

Way too much....As I said Wally is talented but hurt alot and Kandi has been a bust so far...There is no way I would ship those all to Minny for what they are giving up....Maybe a 1st from Toronto and a 2nd from us....

you got Minnesota taking on Shandon Anderson AND Lamond Murray dude...nuff said...they'll need alot of incentive to make that trade & give up a talented player like Wally...Nazr isn't nearly enough in compensation.

[Edited by - TMS on 09/21/2004 11:17:52]

Lamond is ......talented......so is ....SHa....Shan.....I can't say it!

Posted by Allanfan20:

I rarely do trade proposals, but as some know, I made a brilliant one, about a year ago. I put the Knicks franchise on my wings by offering Minnesota Howard Eisley for Kevin Garnett!!! How could they refuse? Then Isiah had to ruin it by trading for some scrub named Lardbury. What a dirtbag Isiah has become.

I dont know...I would've demanded they take back Shandon's contract too.