Free agents:

C- Cousins
C- DeAndre Jordan
C- Al Horford

PF/SF- Tobias Harris
PF- Mirotic
PF- Julius randle

SF- Durant
SF- Leonard
SF- Khris Middleton
SF- Harrison Barnes

SG- Butler
SG- Klay Thompson

PG- Irving
PG- Kemba Walker
PG- Terry Rozier
PG- Collinson
PG- Jeff Teague

Knox looks like he'll be able to hold down the SF spot. We're kind of overloaded at SG (plus the draft is overloaded with SGs). Mitch looks like he's a few years away from being able to start at C. Frank looking less likely to be a starting PG (but it's early days). Mud looking like he could be okay at starting PG. I'm presuming KP will spend most minutes at PF.

So looking like our main gaps will be starting C and PG.

I think the way the celtics have been struggling makes Irving more possible than at the start of the season. Kemba Walker may also be a possibility. My problem with those two are that Knox is looking quite shot heavy, as is Trier and Tim Jr and as will be KP- would a shot heavy PG really complement those three or work well with them?

I've gone off the idea of going fro Middleton (if knox continues to improve). I think there's no hope of Leonard or Klay, and very little hope of KD (plus what would signing him mean for Knox? Unless you move KP to C). I'd give some more thought to Tobias Harris than I did at the start of the season.

this may be controversial, but fit wise, assuming we miss out on the big names (very likely), I wouldn't be upset if we signed Horford for 2 or 3 years. Yes, I know he's old and on the decline, but fit wise he adds a good passer and unselfish player, so should compliment not, KP etc. He's a good defender. Plus he acts as a stop gap until Mitch is ready to take the reins. If we manage to move Lee or Tim Jr, I'd use some of that money to then add a backup PG.

smackeddog wrote:Now we've a better idea of what we have, assuming there are no more big surprises or regressions, have you changed your mind regarding who we should add vis free agency? Who do you think fits best and would complement what we have?

Free agents:

C- Cousins
C- DeAndre Jordan
C- Al Horford

PF/SF- Tobias Harris
PF- Mirotic
PF- Julius randle

SF- Durant
SF- Leonard
SF- Khris Middleton
SF- Harrison Barnes

SG- Butler
SG- Klay Thompson

PG- Irving
PG- Kemba Walker
PG- Terry Rozier
PG- Collinson
PG- Jeff Teague

Knox looks like he'll be able to hold down the SF spot. We're kind of overloaded at SG (plus the draft is overloaded with SGs). Mitch looks like he's a few years away from being able to start at C. Frank looking less likely to be a starting PG (but it's early days). Mud looking like he could be okay at starting PG. I'm presuming KP will spend most minutes at PF.

So looking like our main gaps will be starting C and PG.

I think the way the celtics have been struggling makes Irving more possible than at the start of the season. Kemba Walker may also be a possibility. My problem with those two are that Knox is looking quite shot heavy, as is Trier and Tim Jr and as will be KP- would a shot heavy PG really complement those three or work well with them?

I've gone off the idea of going fro Middleton (if knox continues to improve). I think there's no hope of Leonard or Klay, and very little hope of KD (plus what would signing him mean for Knox? Unless you move KP to C). I'd give some more thought to Tobias Harris than I did at the start of the season.

this may be controversial, but fit wise, assuming we miss out on the big names (very likely), I wouldn't be upset if we signed Horford for 2 or 3 years. Yes, I know he's old and on the decline, but fit wise he adds a good passer and unselfish player, so should compliment not, KP etc. He's a good defender. Plus he acts as a stop gap until Mitch is ready to take the reins. If we manage to move Lee or Tim Jr, I'd use some of that money to then add a backup PG.

Horford? Thats ridiculous. Who wants to add an older player as a stop gap. Now is the opportunity to add a younger piece for 4-5 yrs to help build this team. I don't want walker at the max. Certainly would be happy with KD. He would fit with any combo. Would take Irving even though injuries worry me and I think Mudiay looking like a keeper. Harris and Middleton are staying with their teams.

smackeddog wrote:Now we've a better idea of what we have, assuming there are no more big surprises or regressions, have you changed your mind regarding who we should add vis free agency? Who do you think fits best and would complement what we have?

Free agents:

C- Cousins
C- DeAndre Jordan
C- Al Horford

PF/SF- Tobias Harris
PF- Mirotic
PF- Julius randle

SF- Durant
SF- Leonard
SF- Khris Middleton
SF- Harrison Barnes

SG- Butler
SG- Klay Thompson

PG- Irving
PG- Kemba Walker
PG- Terry Rozier
PG- Collinson
PG- Jeff Teague

Knox looks like he'll be able to hold down the SF spot. We're kind of overloaded at SG (plus the draft is overloaded with SGs). Mitch looks like he's a few years away from being able to start at C. Frank looking less likely to be a starting PG (but it's early days). Mud looking like he could be okay at starting PG. I'm presuming KP will spend most minutes at PF.

So looking like our main gaps will be starting C and PG.

I think the way the celtics have been struggling makes Irving more possible than at the start of the season. Kemba Walker may also be a possibility. My problem with those two are that Knox is looking quite shot heavy, as is Trier and Tim Jr and as will be KP- would a shot heavy PG really complement those three or work well with them?

I've gone off the idea of going fro Middleton (if knox continues to improve). I think there's no hope of Leonard or Klay, and very little hope of KD (plus what would signing him mean for Knox? Unless you move KP to C). I'd give some more thought to Tobias Harris than I did at the start of the season.

this may be controversial, but fit wise, assuming we miss out on the big names (very likely), I wouldn't be upset if we signed Horford for 2 or 3 years. Yes, I know he's old and on the decline, but fit wise he adds a good passer and unselfish player, so should compliment not, KP etc. He's a good defender. Plus he acts as a stop gap until Mitch is ready to take the reins. If we manage to move Lee or Tim Jr, I'd use some of that money to then add a backup PG.

Why Hoford when we have Vonlieh cheaper

smackeddog wrote:Now we've a better idea of what we have, assuming there are no more big surprises or regressions, have you changed your mind regarding who we should add vis free agency? Who do you think fits best and would complement what we have?

Free agents:

C- Cousins
C- DeAndre Jordan
C- Al Horford

PF/SF- Tobias Harris
PF- Mirotic
PF- Julius randle

SF- Durant
SF- Leonard
SF- Khris Middleton
SF- Harrison Barnes

SG- Butler
SG- Klay Thompson

PG- Irving
PG- Kemba Walker
PG- Terry Rozier
PG- Collinson
PG- Jeff Teague

Knox looks like he'll be able to hold down the SF spot. We're kind of overloaded at SG (plus the draft is overloaded with SGs). Mitch looks like he's a few years away from being able to start at C. Frank looking less likely to be a starting PG (but it's early days). Mud looking like he could be okay at starting PG. I'm presuming KP will spend most minutes at PF.

So looking like our main gaps will be starting C and PG.

I think the way the celtics have been struggling makes Irving more possible than at the start of the season. Kemba Walker may also be a possibility. My problem with those two are that Knox is looking quite shot heavy, as is Trier and Tim Jr and as will be KP- would a shot heavy PG really complement those three or work well with them?

I've gone off the idea of going fro Middleton (if knox continues to improve). I think there's no hope of Leonard or Klay, and very little hope of KD (plus what would signing him mean for Knox? Unless you move KP to C). I'd give some more thought to Tobias Harris than I did at the start of the season.

this may be controversial, but fit wise, assuming we miss out on the big names (very likely), I wouldn't be upset if we signed Horford for 2 or 3 years. Yes, I know he's old and on the decline, but fit wise he adds a good passer and unselfish player, so should compliment not, KP etc. He's a good defender. Plus he acts as a stop gap until Mitch is ready to take the reins. If we manage to move Lee or Tim Jr, I'd use some of that money to then add a backup PG.

I'm fine with resigning Vonleh (who still has upside and is an excellent fit next to Porzingis) and having Porzingis, Vonleh, Knox, and Hardaway as 4 starters, but we need a PG. Robinson, Dotson, Trier, Ntilikina and our 2019 lottery pick is a fine bench too. Whether it's a big FA like Kyrie or Kemba, a Tier 2 guard like Rubio or Bledsoe, or even another stopgap, we need to address the PG position to further develop Porzingis and Knox particularly. Otherwise it will be iso-ball each game from KP and Hardaway, and we don't need that. We need a PG who can get these guys easy baskets. Maybe Mudiay can be that guy, but i don't see it right now. We are fine at center, as KP, Vonleh, and Robinson can all play there, but we need a pass-first guard in the worst way.

jskinny35 wrote:I think we need to seriously consider trading for Rubio this offseason, as opposed to trying to sign a "big" FA - we need better ball movement as most of the guys that play decent minutes are shot happy (Hardaway Jr, Trier, Knox, Mud, Kanter, Burke). We could really benefit from a Rubio-type guard that can lead the young guys and serve as a stop gap for a couple of years. Think how well he could help KP, Mud, Trier and Knox. I'm not sure what it would take to get him but I think he would help our team more then a Kyrie (although Kyrie more dynamic and offensively gifted). I think he may be the best fit for this youthful team in need of sacrifice, mentoring and leadership. Who else is out there that is a better fit?

Rubio is a free agent. Let’s jist sign him. He would be an excellent fit.

ramtour420 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:I think we need to seriously consider trading for Rubio this offseason, as opposed to trying to sign a "big" FA - we need better ball movement as most of the guys that play decent minutes are shot happy (Hardaway Jr, Trier, Knox, Mud, Kanter, Burke). We could really benefit from a Rubio-type guard that can lead the young guys and serve as a stop gap for a couple of years. Think how well he could help KP, Mud, Trier and Knox. I'm not sure what it would take to get him but I think he would help our team more then a Kyrie (although Kyrie more dynamic and offensively gifted). I think he may be the best fit for this youthful team in need of sacrifice, mentoring and leadership. Who else is out there that is a better fit?

Rubio is a free agent. Let’s jist sign him. He would be an excellent fit.

From what I can remember he actually wanted to play for New York and that's why he originally stayed in Europe after the draft. Now would be his chance

He’s the ideal fit for any non star. He would do wonders for Porzingis and Knox.

SupremeCommander wrote:I think/thought that Klay Thompson would be the best catch. I think my main target would be Julius Randle though, if they keep the team together. I think his age and skillset really fits this team. Mirotic would be the fallback

Mudiay
THJ
Knox
Randle/KP
KP/Randle

I like Randle as well but at what cost? We really need a primary ball handler. I could see us trading for Wall

SupremeCommander wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I think/thought that Klay Thompson would be the best catch. I think my main target would be Julius Randle though, if they keep the team together. I think his age and skillset really fits this team. Mirotic would be the fallback

Mudiay
THJ
Knox
Randle/KP
KP/Randle

I like Randle as well but at what cost? We really need a primary ball handler. I could see us trading for Wall

I keep gaining comfort with Mudiay. Maybe I feel different by the end of the year but I would rather sign Mudiay to 10 million a year and also grab Randle than say sign Kemba. If Mudiay doesn't improve then I'm all-in on the Kemba train... I think he would have lots of big moments at MSG

What makes you comfortable with Mudiay. To me he still can't create for others or defend. He lives in the mid range offensively which is not efficient basketball. I would much rather pay for Rubio who can make Porzingis and Knox better players. Mudiay still has time but he has to become a real PG for me to want to keep him.

jskinny35 wrote:I think we need to seriously consider trading for Rubio this offseason, as opposed to trying to sign a "big" FA - we need better ball movement as most of the guys that play decent minutes are shot happy (Hardaway Jr, Trier, Knox, Mud, Kanter, Burke). We could really benefit from a Rubio-type guard that can lead the young guys and serve as a stop gap for a couple of years. Think how well he could help KP, Mud, Trier and Knox. I'm not sure what it would take to get him but I think he would help our team more then a Kyrie (although Kyrie more dynamic and offensively gifted). I think he may be the best fit for this youthful team in need of sacrifice, mentoring and leadership. Who else is out there that is a better fit?

This is the guy i've been wanting for a while now. If you have plenty of scoring at the other 4 positions then R.Rubio is the perfect PG to run the offense and he plays defense as well. I've always been a big fan of this kid and can't believe they messed up a couple of years ago when they had the chance to trade D.Rose for him straight up. If we could find a way to get Rubio and either KD or Kawhi to go with KP, Knox, 2019 lottery pick (Zion please) and the other young bucks we have then that would be pretty much a dream scenario for me.

If we can't get either KD, AD or Kawhi and maybe Kyrie then i'm not spending big money on any other player. There's a ton of guys on that list that are really good or great players but not team changing type of talents and they're still gonna get max contracts. If not one of those 4 and like i said Kyrie is still a maybe then i'm signing guys to one year deals and trying for the game changing player again in 2020.