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Knixkik
Posts: 34913 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
12/17/2018 9:56 PM
Big difference without Hardaway, Trier, and Dotson.
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
12/17/2018 10:02 PM
Cartman718 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Frank is sooooooo inconsistent on offense... he needs to just shoot contested 3s in practice to get better....it will. Still a baby. Mudiay is a good example. For 4 years he couldn’t make a shot now he is hitting everything He was very much under a microscope, but that was IN DENVER, with 1 or 2 beat writers. In NY you have roughly 7 to 10 beat rights, and a 100 bloggers. Besides, mudiay still avg double digit scoring his rookie yr, just a low % ES
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
12/17/2018 10:06 PM
Always was a big fan of Jamal Crawford. Good guy and gave us some good moments s despite the horror we had to deal with in the isiah years
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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
12/17/2018 10:10 PM
Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!!
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
12/17/2018 10:13 PM
Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!!playing very well. Hopefully he can sustain it the rest of the way |
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WP76
Posts: 22086 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/8/2013 Member: #4508 |
12/17/2018 10:14 PM
I know I'll get hate mail on this but when exactly is the expiration date on the "Frank is young" rationalization?
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/17/2018 10:23 PM
Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!!He has been awesome. Someone on Twitter mentioned that turning McDermot into Mudiay means the Knicks got Mitch, Mudiay, and Kanter for Melo. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
12/17/2018 10:24 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Yeah it was a great trade.Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!!He has been awesome. Someone on Twitter mentioned that turning McDermot into Mudiay means the Knicks got Mitch, Mudiay, and Kanter for Melo. |
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
12/17/2018 10:28 PM
Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!! The issue with him is that he knows very little on how to actually run a team's offense. He looks for his own shot, and his teammates don't know if he's going to pass even when they are open. The Nuggets have gotten better without him by a lot. I hope they can turn Kanter and Mudiay into another asset, neither should be re-signed beyond this season. Knicks have two starting caliber players, IMO. One is obviously KP. The other is possibly Knox, if he keeps developing, Hardaway is a 6th man on a good team. This roster needs massive change.
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
12/17/2018 10:29 PM
WP76 wrote:I know I'll get hate mail on this but when exactly is the expiration date on the "Frank is young" rationalization? I stop looking at his regular stats and his plus/minus, he's either has the worse or 2nd worse... If the knicks don't try and flip him for a better fit while he still has value ES
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Chandler
Posts: 26042 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
12/17/2018 10:36 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!!playing very well. Hopefully he can sustain it the rest of the way Assume he plays real well the rest of the year 20/5/4 what’s his contract demands and do we get any discount? (5)(5)
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Chandler
Posts: 26042 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
12/17/2018 10:41 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!! Close to my thinking. I would consider THJ to be a starter and Mitch as a very valuable asset as well But you’re definitely right about KP. His patience will be very limited Someone tells him to play zone and he says f that —- honestly crazy on so many levels. Lack of development. Teams are already hoisting historic number of 3s and hitting them (5)(5)
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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
12/17/2018 10:46 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Uptown wrote:Another 30 point game for Mudiay....Averaging 25pts, 7 asts, and 5 rbs over the last 4 games on 54% shooting!! 20 year old Denver Mudiay and 2018-19 Knicks Mudiay are two different players....Not sure why that's being mentioned... Mudiay is a pass first guard, although he has hunted for his shot more over the last 2 games when the offense has stalled. He is shooting 54% over the last 4 so why shouldn't he shoot the ball more when he has it going? If the team needs buckets as they did against the Hornets, a good lead guard attacks the rim which is what he has been doing of late. If the help defender slides over, Mudiay will drop it off for a lay up or kick it out for a jumper; if not he can take the shot. It's what all lead guards do in the NBA.... |
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Chandler
Posts: 26042 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
12/17/2018 10:59 PM
One only need look at the team box score and how many players had 0
Assists No surprise we Shot 40% against perhaps the worst D in the league AND we were home They were dunking and we were taking congested shots. And some posters say we should be practicing our contested shots W should be installing an offense and practice passing. Our best point guard throws away an inbounds pass Again lots of blame can go around. But one thing should be clear if we play zone and iso say goodbye to KP. He’s already going to make a fortune. He’s not going to wait around until we graduate from this crap. G league teams have more structure (5)(5)
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24112 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
12/17/2018 11:29 PM
WP76 wrote:I know I'll get hate mail on this but when exactly is the expiration date on the "Frank is young" rationalization? Uh, when he's not young? |
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
12/18/2018 12:06 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Frank is sooooooo inconsistent on offense... he needs to just shoot contested 3s in practice to get better....it will. Still a baby. Mudiay is a good example. For 4 years he couldn’t make a shot now he is hitting everything obviously your definition is different from mine Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
12/18/2018 12:19 AM
KnickDanger wrote:WP76 wrote:I know I'll get hate mail on this but when exactly is the expiration date on the "Frank is young" rationalization? I would say next season by trading deadline, if he's not performing, you trade him. He is 2 yrs younger than Mudiay, and by Feb 2020, you will know if he's morphed into a lock down defender or not, if he's shooting well or not, if he's basically a consistent player or not and whether he's developed the stamina to get through a full NBA season. At that time you would still get a first round pick for him easy. Also number of drives to basket would be an indicator. You do not want to wait to the point that Denver waited for Mudiay and didn't get much in return. Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
12/18/2018 2:44 AM
WP76 wrote:I know I'll get hate mail on this but when exactly is the expiration date on the "Frank is young" rationalization? Young NBA players typically make their largest developmental leaps ( barring massive injury or bizarre restriction of playing time) in the offseason of Year 1 and Year 2, and again in the offseason of Year 2 and Year 3. By the All Star break of Year 3, you tend to see 90 percent of what a player will give you for the rest of his career, without factoring typical age related decline. The structure of NBA first round picks ( Basically 4 years before the RFA year) is set up around this reality. The previous system was three years guaranteed for rookies when the slotting system was created. |