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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/21/2018 3:00 AM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33767 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
12/21/2018 1:14 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: that was a good read Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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CrushAlot
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12/21/2018 4:24 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:It was. I tried to find other articles on his blog but didn't have any luck.CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
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12/22/2018 10:50 AM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
12/22/2018 11:54 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Before the year started, most fans had dismissed Mudiay an an NBA player let alone a rotational player...It was said that he didn't deserve minutes on this team and would be out of the league in a year. Not only has Mudiay shown that he belongs, but he is making a case that he should be in the discussion for the starting pg spot next year if he continues with his play. Mudiay went from out of the rotation, to our best player during the month of December.....has scored 30, three times in a few weeks and he is starting to get recognition around the league. Dominique praised him last night saying he is a much different player than he remembered seeing last year. NBAtv commentators were showing him love too....Yet, we aren't seeing or hearing much on this board especially from the ones who were harshest on Mudiay at the beginning of the season. I started a thread awhile ago, asking the question: Why can't Mudiay be Chauncey Billups? He's 22 and perhaps he is finding himself now...He is playing with supreme confidence and his game is soaring right now. Does he still have faults and things he can improve on? Absolutely!! But look at where he is now compared to where he was in October!!! And to think that we got this guy off the scrap heap!!! If FRank was having a month like this, I have a feeling there would be multiple threads on him. But since it's Mudiay, we ain't hearing much. It's pretty obvious why! |
TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
12/23/2018 5:31 PM
Uptown wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:
So yes, if Mudiay got traded in the middle of his first year, had to deal with a psychotic egomaniac in Pitino and spend a long time wondering if he'd end up in jail for life while feuding with the then team franchise player, I suppose his career arc could take some more time too. Even during this stretch, has Mudiay shown even a league average three point shot? No. For his career arc? No Even during this stretch and during his entire career, how is his defense? It's complete ass. (He's trying a bit harder though, he wants that new contract) Most of his career, how was his fitness? Not in elite shape. How is his BBIQ? He's ****ing dumb. Poor court vision, when he's not falling down after running into air, and consistently shows he cannot read the floor and make his team mates around him better. He's not better right now on the things HE NEEDS TO DO TO HAVE SUSTAINED VALUE IN THE LEAGUE. DEFENSE. THREE POINT SHOOTING. INTELLIGENT PLAY. He's getting to the line more, doing better at the line, and hitting from mid range at a rate not in line with the rest of his career. Is it more likely he changed his entire career? Or he is having a good streak ( he's had them before) with VOLUME, and will eventually regress? Why was he on the "scrap heap" in the first place? Why weren't other teams rushing to get this guy? You'll notice that people who want to push Mudiay are going to ignore questions about his defense. His three point shooting. His general low BBIQ. They say he'll be better for the long haul.. because... yes guys, what exactly are strong indicators he can keep this up? You know what would be strong indicators? IF HE COULD PLAY SOME MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSE IF HE COULD HIT A MOTHERFUCKING THREE POINT SHOT CONSISTENTLY IF HE PLAYED WITH EVEN AVERAGE BBIQ For the people you think are "harsh" on Mudiay's play across his career arc, you think there are no reasons to criticize the entire span of his NBA career? He's has a few bright spots this month. Good for him, good for the team. But don't blame anyone for looking at his entire career and thinking to themselves it's a little early for getting on their knees and start blowing the guy. But there won't be anything left for the others, since you and Welpee clearly have managed to drain his balls dry already. |
Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
12/24/2018 1:07 PM
Uptown wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Billups in year four of his career: 10.9 ppg, 3.7 ast, 86 ft%, 34 3pt%, 39 fg%, 215 games/149 starts Mudiay in year four of his career (so far): Yep, can't understand what people are thinking comparing the two (sarcasm alert). And Mudiay is 2 years younger in year four of his career. Keep in mind, part of the game when comparing two players is if the two situations aren't EXACTLY the same (which is impossible) haters will attempt to discredit your comparison. |
SupremeCommander
Posts: 33767 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
12/24/2018 1:56 PM
Welpee wrote:Uptown wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: point guard is definitely the position that takes the longest to master. I thought the genius in Perry's PG moves last year was just in creating the competition. I definitely would not have bet on Mudiay looking like the favorite but that's the case right now. I think his academically ineligibility at SMU and his Chinese excursion was a mistake. I don't think he ever got showed how to work. You can work hard but work on the wrong things. I made worse mistakes at his age. People forget there were a lot of people that thought had Mudiay played for Larry Brown he probably would have been the #1 overall pick afterwards. This is definitely a unique case study and I'm glad we're taking our time Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
12/25/2018 8:37 AM LAST EDITED: 12/25/2018 8:45 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:This is an interesting article on what happened in Denver: https://gazette.com/sports/paul-klee-what-went-wrong-for-emmanuel-mudiay-with-denver/article_55c29a9e-d5e5-5544-a717-f58f628533b5.htmlWelpee wrote:Uptown wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Also, according to his manager, Mudiay's acceptance to SMU got held up by the NCAA because of accreditation issues with his Dallas high school, Prime Prep Academy. His manager claimed by the time the NCAA cleared Mudiay to play he would've missed half of the season. In hindsight Mudiay would've benefited staying at SMU at least though his sophomore season. But I remember also reading Mudiay saying something about wanting to financially help his family. Getting paid $1.2 million for what amounted to only a handful of games due to injury definitely didn't help his development as a player but is a hard situation to turn down as a 18 year old with NCAA uncertainty hanging over your head. If anything, this illustrates the incompetence of the NCAA and its baffling why they can't get these matters cleared up in a more timely manner. It's also interesting how a certain poster offers up every excuse in the book to explain the slow start to Billups' career but won't give Mudiay similar consideration before trashing him. |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/25/2018 10:07 AM
Welpee wrote:Great article. Thanks for posting it. It was nice to read that the Nuggets thought so highly of Mudiay as a person.SupremeCommander wrote:This is an interesting article on what happened in Denver: https://gazette.com/sports/paul-klee-what-went-wrong-for-emmanuel-mudiay-with-denver/article_55c29a9e-d5e5-5544-a717-f58f628533b5.htmlWelpee wrote:Uptown wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
12/29/2018 2:17 PM LAST EDITED: 12/29/2018 2:36 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:First back off your own hyperbole. Nobody is "worshiping" Mudiay. The only point that has been made by most in his defense (for the 1000th time) is giving up on the guy at age 22 is too soon. Nobody is predicting stardom so there's nothing to respond to. The guy didn't produce his first few years in the league. It doesn't take writing the same short story 100 times to convey that.Welpee wrote:TripleThreat wrote:Of course no two players are ever going to have the exact same circumstances that led to their careers getting off to a slow start. Every player has their own individual reasons/excuses/circumstances etc.Welpee wrote:Billups in year four of his career: And regarding Billups, all of this is hindsight. None of you guys would've posted any of that about Billups at the time of his struggles. Now, 10 years after he got with the right coaches in the right systems and under the right circumstances and he flourished you can post all of these superlatives about him as if you knew this about him in year four of his career. Ironically, I would bet anything Billups himself would use his own experience to justify not closing the book on Mudiay just yet. Edit - in fact, this from Billups himself: Coach Fizdale is doing a really good job, but you’re just trying to set a culture there. It’s tough to do it without your best player on the floor, but he’s doing it, and doing it as good as he could do. I’m really liking the development of Emmanuel Mudiay. I’ve been a fan of his since he’s been in the league. Obviously, he’s taken a rough little path. It reminds me of my path, a little bit, being given up on early in his career, but he’s starting to find himself. He’s doing a good job.https://uproxx.com/dimemag/nba-christmas-day-schedule-preview-matchups-analysis/2/ The good thing about all of this is time will tell and I would have no problem saying you told us so (just like you were right about Melo). What I suspect is Mudiay could become the next Chris Paul and you guys still wouldn't give it up to him. |