NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

Huh? What stats are you looking at in comparing this year to his career numbers?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mudiaem01.html

Your confusing things with facts. Fyi..You can't talk to Meloshouldgo when he is staring at Jeremy Lin's poster. Which is most timea except 8am to 830am and 5:30 to 6pm(Commute tumes) He just can't function.

Funny how so many preach patience yet cast off a kid with just a couple of years experience. Specially at the PG position. Im sure these armchair GMs know the first thing about how hard it is to play the PG position. Kid is doing well. Perry did a good job realizing its stupid to give up on a 22 year old. And Fiz has done a good job developing him. Hopefully he continues to improve.

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

Huh? What stats are you looking at in comparing this year to his career numbers?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mudiaem01.html

He is making one extra field goal, per 10.6 attempts, his rebounds are the same and his assists have gone down. What are you looking at?

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

Huh? What stats are you looking at in comparing this year to his career numbers?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mudiaem01.html

He is making one extra field goal, per 10.6 attempts, his rebounds are the same and his assists have gone down. What are you looking at?

Field goal percentage, free throw percentage, 3 pt field goal percentage, 2 pt field goal percentage, effective field goal percentage, PER, and win shares.

Yup all that's covered in the precious 1 extra bucket he is making. Except win shares, which isn't really improved, unless you consider fluctuations within half a standard deviation as "significant" improvement. This dude had shown zero improvement and I haven't even started on defense.

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CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

Huh? What stats are you looking at in comparing this year to his career numbers?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mudiaem01.html

He is making one extra field goal, per 10.6 attempts, his rebounds are the same and his assists have gone down. What are you looking at?

Field goal percentage, free throw percentage, 3 pt field goal percentage, 2 pt field goal percentage, effective field goal percentage, PER, and win shares.

Yup all that's covered in the precious 1 extra bucket he is making. Except win shares, which isn't really improved, unless you consider fluctuations within half a standard deviation as "significant" improvement. This dude had shown zero improvement and I haven't even started on defense.

ok.

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https://twitter.com/claudio_gsn/status/1073991257595219969

Yes, we are back to looking at a cherry picked set of 4-5 games. Try not to hijack conversations, or try to read the context first.

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

marginal improvement? Don't talk about stats unless you've looked at them. He's shooting 46.3% this season up from a career of 38.4%. His 3 pt% FT% and scoring are all up.

nykshaknbake wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

marginal improvement? Don't talk about stats unless you've looked at them. He's shooting 46.3% this season up from a career of 38.4%. His 3 pt% FT% and scoring are all up.

TripleThreat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Earlier you said it was 4 games. It is the last 7.

"Do what you did this Sunday all season long. Then I'll decide if I want to shake your hand." - Tom Landry

No one is "hating" on Mudiay. Do it all year long. Do it when defenses are game planning specifically for you. Do it consistently. While tired, hurt, in foul trouble, having a bad shooting night, with the flu, with team mates injured or dogging it. Do it when the team needs you. Do it when the team doesn't need you.

You don't buy an engagement ring after one good blowjob. Well, it's more like one good blowjob and a few half hearted tugs.

Some of you guys are some desperate ass thirsty mother****ers. Bust a nut once and you start planning the wedding. He's had a few nice games, good for him. He's also had a longer body of work where he's not given a ****, been out of shape and hasn't shown progress in his game. When his back is to the wall and he realizes his career is soon to be over, then he tries. You want to give a big contract to that kind of guy?

"Well he got into shape!" It is his MOTHERFUCKING JOB to be in SHAPE ALREADY.

"You take care of your kids? You bragging about taking care of your kids? You are supposed to take care of your kids, you low expectations having mother****er!" - Chris Rock

Let's see Mudiay do it ALL YEAR LONG, then everyone can talk.

Already looking up florists in the phone book after one mediocre hand job. Some of you sell out real cheap.

nykshaknbake wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

franco12 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:^

NDA's are now common when dealing with celebrities and celebrity athletes. I'm not sure what the big deal about that is except the average person in the public is likely unaware that NDA's are pretty standard now.

You could simply walk their dog and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone who will. You could walk the dog for the players mom or sister and you'll have to sign one or they'll hire someone else. Gardener, housekeeper, nanny, personal trainer, chef, nutritionist, math tutors for the kids who come to the house, etc, etc.

Camera set ups are pretty common as well. While it backfires some instances like Aaron Hernandez, it usually offers a shield against liability in many other instances.

Here's something they teach at various rookie symposiums, if you are driving and you have a problem with someone in the car with you ( likely a woman, but could be anyone), then you stop in a well lit public place. You use the ATM there and get some cash out. You walk into a store and you buy something. You introduce yourself to the manager or clerk, if they recognize you, sign an autograph and take a picture. Ask the employee for the time. Repeat the time you are given out loud. Ask for todays date and day of the week. Repeat what you are given out loud. Wait in the parking lot, and then call a car service to pick up the person and take them home.

In many conflicts, esp with women, several guys were only cleared because they happened to use the ATM to get some cash and the time stamps contradicted the narrative presented against them. This contradicts what many athletes do, which is pay for everything in cash ( Every CC stub you sign is now your autograph and there are plenty of guys who don't want anyone tracking them by using a card )

Likely teams interested in getting Fultz at a low trade price are releasing this. No different than teams wanting a certain QB will release his low Wonderlic score privately to a journalist to scare off other teams.

Guys I've trained for the Combine, who I know would end up as first round picks, I've told them to hire a full time personal driver. You want to end up like Donte Stallworth and kill someone on the road? Even if it's a minor fender bender, once someone realizes you have fat cash in your pocket, how fast do you think their back is now shot up from the incident?

Professional athletes are not paranoid, some people are out to get them. The classic symposium story is about a player who banged a random thot and realized she was locked in a bathroom, using a plunger and rolled the used condom inside out and was jamming it inside her while he was trying to break down the door. Agents push for their high profile guys to get a vasectomy and put their swimmers on ice and storage in a professional facility. I suspect many people don't get why a guy would have an "entourage" In many cases, it's having more eyes to watch your back. It's having hands to get dirty so you don't have to ruin your career in one night.

During Linsanity, people would follow Lin's relatives all day in other countries. During the aftermath of OJ getting caught, tabloid guys would hang out by his daughter's school to try to get her to talk and say anything. They tried to pay cash and give gifts to his daughters classmates to lure her out towards them. Cameras aren't crazy, guys in the NBA/NFL/MLB who don't have them are crazy.

Fultz has a crazy mother. Who gives a ****. Everyone has someone insane in their family. Someone here probably has a grandmother who is a coke dealer and is bi-polar while talking to her pet donkey named Peaches Divine.

So...can we get a 600+ word essay on Mudiay? You had no hesitation posting super-sized word salad dissertations trashing him. Now that he's playing well, crickets. Funny how people don't have the credibility to admit that maybe sometimes they're wrong.

Mudiay has always been a streaky player. He might be on something of a high at the moment, but the fall-off will happen soon thereafter. And to be honest, he looked doughy to me earlier in the season, which didn't surprise me. I think the dude doesn't love the game and is only doing it for a check. After all, there is a reason no other team tried besting an offer of middling 2nd round picks when we got him.

This is kinda insulting. Maybe Mudiay has started to figure things out. He is young, and most NBA pgs take a while to figure things out.

He's always shown flashes, and now is starting to put together some consistent play.

I think he might be out PG for the future.

....you are taking a few games this month and acting as though the rest of his career is irrelevant. That would be a prime example of (selection) bias.

I'm not. I'm looking at how his play has developed this year. He's improved. He is becoming a leader for this team. He's been able to finish at the rim, something he couldn't do last year.

He was drafted based on his physical abilities. His problem has been between the ears. Fizdale has, I think, worked wonders and gotten him to start to realize his potential.

None of his stats show anything but marginal improvement, be it advanced or simple when you compare this season to his career.
You guys are so hell bent on proving he has improved that you keep making these claims that's are not borne out by data. Now if you take a 4 game sample here and the any player can look greatly improved. I hope we don't waste money giving this kid a contract, he isn't worth it. He isn't even an average NBA player.

marginal improvement? Don't talk about stats unless you've looked at them. He's shooting 46.3% this season up from a career of 38.4%. His 3 pt% FT% and scoring are all up.

Don't respond to my posts unless you read and understood what I said.

TripleThreat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Earlier you said it was 4 games. It is the last 7.

"Do what you did this Sunday all season long. Then I'll decide if I want to shake your hand." - Tom Landry

No one is "hating" on Mudiay. Do it all year long. Do it when defenses are game planning specifically for you. Do it consistently. While tired, hurt, in foul trouble, having a bad shooting night, with the flu, with team mates injured or dogging it. Do it when the team needs you. Do it when the team doesn't need you.

You don't buy an engagement ring after one good blowjob. Well, it's more like one good blowjob and a few half hearted tugs.

Some of you guys are some desperate ass thirsty mother****ers. Bust a nut once and you start planning the wedding. He's had a few nice games, good for him. He's also had a longer body of work where he's not given a ****, been out of shape and hasn't shown progress in his game. When his back is to the wall and he realizes his career is soon to be over, then he tries. You want to give a big contract to that kind of guy?

"Well he got into shape!" It is his MOTHERFUCKING JOB to be in SHAPE ALREADY.

"You take care of your kids? You bragging about taking care of your kids? You are supposed to take care of your kids, you low expectations having mother****er!" - Chris Rock

Let's see Mudiay do it ALL YEAR LONG, then everyone can talk.

Already looking up florists in the phone book after one mediocre hand job. Some of you sell out real cheap.

Can we have another 600 word essay on Ron Baker being a starting PG but Mudiay sucks.
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