Then he slowed down, became more of an all star level, and the team wasn’t able to stay in the playoffs but were competitive.

I think same case now in that with a 22 point a night KP we are able to win 30 games a season, with a 27 pint a night MVP level KP we are a playoff team.

Talent simply lacks here. I only think KP and Frank are longterm assets to this franchise as they can impact the game on both sides of the ball. Frank will not be a star, however he can be an asset on a team that has KP and another star, where Frank can then focus on défense, shooting open 3s etc

Knox I don’t really know man, I think he will be a good scorer in the league but he’s a dime a dozen wing, nothing special about his talent. I’d trade him and THj for an established all star guard who is 26 or younger like Bradley Beal without hesitation.

nyknickzingis wrote:When this team played well last year and were in the playoff hunt, KP was dominant MVP level scorer with elite interior D.

Then he slowed down, became more of an all star level, and the team wasn’t able to stay in the playoffs but were competitive.

I think same case now in that with a 22 point a night KP we are able to win 30 games a season, with a 27 pint a night MVP level KP we are a playoff team.

Talent simply lacks here. I only think KP and Frank are longterm assets to this franchise as they can impact the game on both sides of the ball. Frank will not be a star, however he can be an asset on a team that has KP and another star, where Frank can then focus on défense, shooting open 3s etc

Knox I don’t really know man, I think he will be a good scorer in the league but he’s a dime a dozen wing, nothing special about his talent. I’d trade him and THj for an established all star guard who is 26 or younger like Bradley Beal without hesitation.

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:We still lost so 1248 will not be impressed..

You know who I'm impress with, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, he was a pg that was pick @ 11, who's the same age and height as frank but, 10x better on both ends. He has taken more FT in 3 wks, than frank HAS IN 6 MONTHS....lol, did the knicks even work him out...oh wait, they wanted to put all their attn to frank and mudiay (kudos for mudiay who is playing much much better)

Shai is playing better than Knox as well, but i'll hold my judgement on knox for now, but the concerns coming into the draft for him, yeah, their showing it's head.

The Mills and Perry show is starting to look like reruns from the Phil jackson and MILLS show..were are headed for a 17 win season, only THJ is the NEW melo, a one man show that tries to carry the team.

your telling your fans that knox, frank, trier, and mitch will be good 4 yrs from now (but no guaranties) that's what your telling the OWNER, FA.

SGA has been good but don't go crazy. He's a better offensive player than Frank, and better overall, but nowhere near the defender. I like him a lot, and a lot better than Frank, but you're not being realistic.

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:When this team played well last year and were in the playoff hunt, KP was dominant MVP level scorer with elite interior D.

Then he slowed down, became more of an all star level, and the team wasn’t able to stay in the playoffs but were competitive.

I think same case now in that with a 22 point a night KP we are able to win 30 games a season, with a 27 pint a night MVP level KP we are a playoff team.

Talent simply lacks here. I only think KP and Frank are longterm assets to this franchise as they can impact the game on both sides of the ball. Frank will not be a star, however he can be an asset on a team that has KP and another star, where Frank can then focus on défense, shooting open 3s etc

Knox I don’t really know man, I think he will be a good scorer in the league but he’s a dime a dozen wing, nothing special about his talent. I’d trade him and THj for an established all star guard who is 26 or younger like Bradley Beal without hesitation.

That 2-10 run that started right before Christmas buried them. The same thing happened the previous season. In regards to Frank, I am hoping for good things but enjoying the good play of the other young guys and not focusing on Frank as much. I think the franchise hit a home run with the 18 draft. Robinson, Knox and Trier are all a part of the future. I think Dotson, Vonleh and maybe Mudiay will be a part of the future as well. If Frank ends up being Andre Roberston light on d but with a bit more offense that wouldn't be horrible. One good sign with Frank is he is hitting the free throws that he takes (small sample size) at a higher rate and sometimes that leads to a better shooting percentage.

Yeah i agree. I am down on Frank but we know at least what he is in the league. A roberson-type defensive player. This draft class could be the saving grace here. 3 guys who have real NBA talent and all look the part of a great supporting cast to KP. We just need a 2nd star.

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:We still lost so 1248 will not be impressed..

You know who I'm impress with, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, he was a pg that was pick @ 11, who's the same age and height as frank but, 10x better on both ends. He has taken more FT in 3 wks, than frank HAS IN 6 MONTHS....lol, did the knicks even work him out...oh wait, they wanted to put all their attn to frank and mudiay (kudos for mudiay who is playing much much better)

Shai is playing better than Knox as well, but i'll hold my judgement on knox for now, but the concerns coming into the draft for him, yeah, their showing it's head.

The Mills and Perry show is starting to look like reruns from the Phil jackson and MILLS show..were are headed for a 17 win season, only THJ is the NEW melo, a one man show that tries to carry the team.

your telling your fans that knox, frank, trier, and mitch will be good 4 yrs from now (but no guaranties) that's what your telling the OWNER, FA.

We are playing without our stud player and you think his play doesn't pick others up as well when he's back? come on. THJ is the new melo....? Dude is playing D right now and rebounding and assisting and for the most part taking good shots and has shown the strong desire to be an all star.

Mills n Perry look NOTHING like Phil show. Phil signed Noah to a 4 yr contract meanwhile Perry and Mills have shown that with the youngest club they're moving to player development rather than win-now phase. It doesn't matter if KD doesn't sign here. The long term future of this team is finally headed in the right direction. When you focus your NBA and G-League teams on player development, good things are bound to happen. Yoots baby!

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:We still lost so 1248 will not be impressed..

You know who I'm impress with, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, he was a pg that was pick @ 11, who's the same age and height as frank but, 10x better on both ends. He has taken more FT in 3 wks, than frank HAS IN 6 MONTHS....lol, did the knicks even work him out...oh wait, they wanted to put all their attn to frank and mudiay (kudos for mudiay who is playing much much better)

Shai is playing better than Knox as well, but i'll hold my judgement on knox for now, but the concerns coming into the draft for him, yeah, their showing it's head.

The Mills and Perry show is starting to look like reruns from the Phil jackson and MILLS show..were are headed for a 17 win season, only THJ is the NEW melo, a one man show that tries to carry the team.

your telling your fans that knox, frank, trier, and mitch will be good 4 yrs from now (but no guaranties) that's what your telling the OWNER, FA.

We are playing without our stud player and you think his play doesn't pick others up as well when he's back? come on. THJ is the new melo....? Dude is playing D right now and rebounding and assisting and for the most part taking good shots and has shown the strong desire to be an all star.

Mills n Perry look NOTHING like Phil show. Phil signed Noah to a 4 yr contract meanwhile Perry and Mills have shown that with the youngest club they're moving to player development rather than win-now phase. It doesn't matter if KD doesn't sign here. The long term future of this team is finally headed in the right direction. When you focus your NBA and G-League teams on player development, good things are bound to happen. Yoots baby!

Knicks1248's post is exactly why they say you can't rebuild in NY.

Knixkik wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Knox hasn't shown anything at all. I find it amazing people amount him part of the future.

He just turned 19 (should be a college freshman) and has shown signs of NBA scoring ability. He's big and a smooth athlete. Dominated his age in SL. He's all potential, and little production right now. It is more about his approach than his talent. He shows the talent, no one can deny that. You can see what he's capable of in flashes. But remember he's 19. It won't happen very often yet.

Agreed...I mentioned in a another post that Knox is a year older than HS seniors!!! And after 18 games in the NBA (actually less than that since he was hurt) some are ready to write him off as being a part of our future? SMH...This is the mentality that makes it impossible for this fanbase to accept a rebuild. How about we give his body time to grow and get stronger...Give him time to adjust to the speed of the game...Give him a couple of summers to do some film work and work on his weaknesses and add on to his strengths....Remember, we are the same franchise that had a coach walk the sidelines and call a 19-20 year old Trevor Ariza delusional and force us to trade him away before he could develop into the champion and elite talent he became.

Uptown wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Knox hasn't shown anything at all. I find it amazing people amount him part of the future.

He just turned 19 (should be a college freshman) and has shown signs of NBA scoring ability. He's big and a smooth athlete. Dominated his age in SL. He's all potential, and little production right now. It is more about his approach than his talent. He shows the talent, no one can deny that. You can see what he's capable of in flashes. But remember he's 19. It won't happen very often yet.

Agreed...I mentioned in a another post that Knox is a year older than HS seniors!!! And after 18 games in the NBA (actually less than that since he was hurt) some are ready to write him off as being a part of our future? SMH...This is the mentality that makes it impossible for this fanbase to accept a rebuild. How about we give his body time to grow and get stronger...Give him time to adjust to the speed of the game...Give him a couple of summers to do some film work and work on his weaknesses and add on to his strengths....Remember, we are the same franchise that had a coach walk the sidelines and call a 19-20 year old Trevor Ariza delusional and force us to trade him away before he could develop into the champion and elite talent he became.