KnickDanger wrote:

FireHornacek wrote:

EnySpree wrote:...The ny media or any other TV outlet has no interest in taking good about the knicks....

Uhh, what exactly is good about the Knicks thus far?

You've got to be kidding. The media doesn't want to talk good about the Knicks. So you want them to make sh!t up? "Wow, Knox is definitely on pace for Rookie Of The Year! Fiz was an inspired choice for our new coach! Mitchell is not just the steal of the draft, but the steal of the century!" Is that what you want?

Please, tell me what good should the media be talking about?

Well of course Berman isn't the only douche.

Other team networks in our current situation talk highly of their club. We're in a healthy no drama situation. We're the youngest team... anybody crying about this year don't deserve the future that is to come.

We've been through easy worse then what's happening now. If anything this is the best season we've had in years from a fan standpoint

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:As with almost all rookies, they shouldn't be in the SL from the beginning of their rookie seasons. They should be eased in, and earn it. If they are failing in a starting role, this is on the coach, not one kid with 1 year college ball, and one with zero. No need to rip these kids in the press. Give them a bloody grace period.

On Ultimate Knicks website its all fair game.

Realistically speaking, do the Knicks have 5 guys who have earned a SL position?

It's also about fit too after that.

I don't think that matters. It takes some time for rooks to get acclimated to the NBA. I'm not saying not to play them, but don't throw them in the deep end, either.

Im still waiting for Lance Thomas to figure it out

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:As with almost all rookies, they shouldn't be in the SL from the beginning of their rookie seasons. They should be eased in, and earn it. If they are failing in a starting role, this is on the coach, not one kid with 1 year college ball, and one with zero. No need to rip these kids in the press. Give them a bloody grace period.

On Ultimate Knicks website its all fair game.

Realistically speaking, do the Knicks have 5 guys who have earned a SL position?

It's also about fit too after that.

I don't think that matters. It takes some time for rooks to get acclimated to the NBA. I'm not saying not to play them, but don't throw them in the deep end, either.

Fair, I think that's why you saw Kanter, LT, Frank, THJr and Trey start the season.

After that...

EnySpree wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

Just so that you know, beat writers create the article content and then the newspapers typically create the article title, and obviously they do it for clicks and whatnot

The key is not to click... there's so much information out there. I would rather read one of you guys give an opinion than Berman or anybody else. The ny media or any other TV outlet has no interest in taking good about the knicks. Bashing the knicks is like throwing a fart around a 4 year old... cheap laughs

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

FireHornacek wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Other team networks in our current situation talk highly of their club.

Good God. So you are one of those fools that just want our announcers to shake pom poms and tell their viewers "Everything is great!"
Come on, come clean. You are really James Dolan, right?

Hey, kid, what makes a writer, journalist, TV analyst great is their ability to tell it like it truly is, not give us the party line. You want that dope Wally Szerbiak to tell you Mitchell Robinson is the second coming of Kareem. The legendary Clint Eastwood has a great quote about kids like you: You like to pissed on and told it's raining.

I almost feel sorry for you.

The record speaks for itself. You don’t have to point out a thing.
It’s easy to think another coach could do better, but you don’t know. You see the loses and think you have a fix. YOu don’t.
This team was depleated and this is really our first year all in on a rebuild.
Seems your that one that can’t handle the truth. We all see what’s going on. A youth movement in its early stages. Opportunities. You see results and react to it. Snarky at it too.

Dude we lost beasly, KOQ and Jack, how were we depleted, and replace them with mario, noah, knox, and mitch, who should be better shooters, and better athletes.

Mills and perry said WHO NEEDS VETERANS, in the next breath state, we're no tanking

So JH was really a good coach who had a bad team, because fizdale is on pace to lose at least 10 to 15 more games than JH did, and he has a better roster..

Forget those quotes and think with what you see.
We were depleted for years void of developing to be used on the court or as trade fodder. Boston does this and is effective. Despite Phillys mistakes they still incubated Saric and Developed Covington which they converted to Butler to pair with those blue chippers that did pan out. Good teams miss as well on picks but the ones that stick are the ones that matter. Consider Clev who drafted Anthony Bennett and Wiggins and neither lived up to expectations.
My point is its not just about the draft but really Rainman if you look at the team we have few trade chips and if we move them we get older good players perhaps, but they are paired with our reclamation projects.
There is no quick fix.
I was OK with JH and thought he was not our problem. But Im good with Fiz as he too has upside.
KOQ is a cool dude, but not that good. Beas performed because KP went down. Empty stat guy on a bad team. Jack did good but we can't play older guys and not develop. Look at the roster and when your rotation guys are Beas, Jack and KOQ we were depleted then. We are depleted now but with guys that MIGHT have upside. Vonleh is showing some stuff as is Mudiay of late. They are 22 vs. 30.

TripleThreat wrote:

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

If you reacting and talking about something stupid that Berman said, then he's actually done his job well.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

If you reacting and talking about something stupid that Berman said, then he's actually done his job well.

True. Berman is like a fat chick with a donkey you don't want to look at. Yet at the same time you can't really look away either.

That's the great thing about this matter. There are so many writers, mainstream and grassroots, that there really isn't any need to fixate on any one writer or any one story. I read the Berman article and was like whatever. Every once he'll drop a nugget, but I don't count on him as a primary source for Knicks news. He's just another beat writer. Sometimes there's truth in what they write and sometimes you have to look around and try to piece it together. I've never seen a donkey show, but I imagine it's interesting. Can you fill us in a little more Nalod lol

EnySpree wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

FireHornacek wrote:

EnySpree wrote:...The ny media or any other TV outlet has no interest in taking good about the knicks....

Uhh, what exactly is good about the Knicks thus far?

You've got to be kidding. The media doesn't want to talk good about the Knicks. So you want them to make sh!t up? "Wow, Knox is definitely on pace for Rookie Of The Year! Fiz was an inspired choice for our new coach! Mitchell is not just the steal of the draft, but the steal of the century!" Is that what you want?

Please, tell me what good should the media be talking about?

Well of course Berman isn't the only douche.

Other team networks in our current situation talk highly of their club. We're in a healthy no drama situation. We're the youngest team... anybody crying about this year don't deserve the future that is to come.

We've been through easy worse then what's happening now. If anything this is the best season we've had in years from a fan standpoint

Ay man brotha

Nalod wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

If you reacting and talking about something stupid that Berman said, then he's actually done his job well.

True. Berman is like a fat chick with a donkey you don't want to look at. Yet at the same time you can't really look away either.

But does the donkey get in the truck?

Berman stopped being interesting when Starbles went to China.