I agree with you but at the same time Knox has done nothing so far. He needs to get a fire lit under his ass and show some signs of life. I know he’s very young but show us you can do something besides shoot a lot.

I didn't see much of the game last night but Mitch and knox both played like (deer in head lights) rookies, they are on the scouting reports now and Mitch looked more like a project then steal of the draft. Knoxs Motor was his biggest flaw coming into the draft, it has never been consistent

Obviously when you put these young guys in roles they really shouldn't be in, your going to get super inconsistent play.

does anyone care what berman writes? it's a joke and doesn't everyone (front office, players included) know to ignore it by now?

KnickDanger wrote:Isola a douche, Stephen A a douche, Michael Kay and his bobos mucho douche. Add most of the radio gasbags. There is de rigueur Knicks hate when it comes to covering the team. Like the lead post said, this isn't about being kool ade drinking, pom pom waving. We see what is bad (a lot!). But there is a clear difference in the vision of the front office to work for the future and not another win-now death march. Fiz too is a work in progress but is the anti-Hornacek in terms of playing the youngsters instead of going for useless wins. And we have a group of interesting young players with potential -- potential that needs patience, the kind the douches can't imagine.

To me we seem to be going in a good direction, granted a painful one. And there are no guarantees of where it will lead and who will stick. But the lazy condemnation of this Knicks "process", to focus on only the shortcomings and equate with all previous sins, to belch out "same old Knicks" without doing your homework because you believe that is what the mob wants to hear....

Go jump in the East River.

First all this NYC, the Largest Media Market in the WORLD, and no matter who you are or what you have done, you can expect criticism. Every single player in NY experiences this, there's like 5 beat writes per team as oppose to most teams that have 1 or 2.

knicks1248 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Isola a douche, Stephen A a douche, Michael Kay and his bobos mucho douche. Add most of the radio gasbags. There is de rigueur Knicks hate when it comes to covering the team. Like the lead post said, this isn't about being kool ade drinking, pom pom waving. We see what is bad (a lot!). But there is a clear difference in the vision of the front office to work for the future and not another win-now death march. Fiz too is a work in progress but is the anti-Hornacek in terms of playing the youngsters instead of going for useless wins. And we have a group of interesting young players with potential -- potential that needs patience, the kind the douches can't imagine.

To me we seem to be going in a good direction, granted a painful one. And there are no guarantees of where it will lead and who will stick. But the lazy condemnation of this Knicks "process", to focus on only the shortcomings and equate with all previous sins, to belch out "same old Knicks" without doing your homework because you believe that is what the mob wants to hear....

Go jump in the East River.

First all this NYC, the Largest Media Market in the WORLD, and no matter who you are or what you have done, you can expect criticism. Every single player in NY experiences this, there's like 5 beat writes per team as oppose to most teams that have 1 or 2.

The point isn't about criticism. It's about thoughtfulness. Yeah I don't expect it but the laziness bugs me.

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

Just so that you know, beat writers create the article content and then the newspapers typically create the article title, and obviously they do it for clicks and whatnot

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:Y'all no I'm not a kool-aid drinking, rose colored glasses wearing type. I call it like i see it. But here on these boards where it just us Joe Schmoes. But even I'm a bit disgusted at Berman calling out rookies in article headlines 17 games into the season.
He's got one calling out Knox and one on Mitch Rob. Wtf is his problem? Has he no restraint? No decency? Give the kids a chance before humiliating them in the public press. What a douche.

Just so that you know, beat writers create the article content and then the newspapers typically create the article title, and obviously they do it for clicks and whatnot

The key is not to click... there's so much information out there. I would rather read one of you guys give an opinion than Berman or anybody else. The ny media or any other TV outlet has no interest in taking good about the knicks. Bashing the knicks is like throwing a fart around a 4 year old... cheap laughs

EnySpree wrote:...The ny media or any other TV outlet has no interest in taking good about the knicks....

You've got to be kidding. The media doesn't want to talk good about the Knicks. So you want them to make sh!t up? "Wow, Knox is definitely on pace for Rookie Of The Year! Fiz was an inspired choice for our new coach! Mitchell is not just the steal of the draft, but the steal of the century!" Is that what you want?

Please, tell me what good should the media be talking about?

On Ultimate Knicks website its all fair game.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:As with almost all rookies, they shouldn't be in the SL from the beginning of their rookie seasons. They should be eased in, and earn it. If they are failing in a starting role, this is on the coach, not one kid with 1 year college ball, and one with zero. No need to rip these kids in the press. Give them a bloody grace period.

On Ultimate Knicks website its all fair game.

Realistically speaking, do the Knicks have 5 guys who have earned a SL position?

It's also about fit too after that.

I don't think that matters. It takes some time for rooks to get acclimated to the NBA. I'm not saying not to play them, but don't throw them in the deep end, either.