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newyorknewyork
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11/8/2018 5:01 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:arkrud wrote:he doesnt believe in building through the draft. He doesnt understand that it takes some patience but we have built a solid foundation and free agents notice that more than winning a few extra gamesknicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Chandler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Uptown wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Not to pick on Timmy. But we have seen Levert and Oladipo finish the Knicks off with last min/second scores. And we have just now witnessed Lavine make a last 2nd drive attempt on to steal and OT win. Frank our best perimeter player wasn't guarding any of these guys during these moments. Fizz stated that he wanted Timmy to be tested in these situations and not to call on Frank even though thisay be his best attribute. As I thought, no reply. Questions not answered. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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CrushAlot
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11/8/2018 5:20 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Where is the quote from? I thought I had read all of the articles about last nights game but I didn't see or missed this. I do think it is a reach for a reporter to post about body language and not an actual source.newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:arkrud wrote:he doesnt believe in building through the draft. He doesnt understand that it takes some patience but we have built a solid foundation and free agents notice that more than winning a few extra gamesknicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Chandler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Uptown wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Not to pick on Timmy. But we have seen Levert and Oladipo finish the Knicks off with last min/second scores. And we have just now witnessed Lavine make a last 2nd drive attempt on to steal and OT win. Frank our best perimeter player wasn't guarding any of these guys during these moments. Fizz stated that he wanted Timmy to be tested in these situations and not to call on Frank even though thisay be his best attribute. Thanks. I'll see if I can find it. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
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11/8/2018 7:37 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Begley tweeted it which gives it a bit more clout in my opinion.newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Where is the quote from? I thought I had read all of the articles about last nights game but I didn't see or missed this. I do think it is a reach for a reporter to post about body language and not an actual source.newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:arkrud wrote:he doesnt believe in building through the draft. He doesnt understand that it takes some patience but we have built a solid foundation and free agents notice that more than winning a few extra gamesknicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Chandler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Uptown wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Not to pick on Timmy. But we have seen Levert and Oladipo finish the Knicks off with last min/second scores. And we have just now witnessed Lavine make a last 2nd drive attempt on to steal and OT win. Frank our best perimeter player wasn't guarding any of these guys during these moments. Fizz stated that he wanted Timmy to be tested in these situations and not to call on Frank even though thisay be his best attribute. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Chandler
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11/9/2018 10:43 AM LAST EDITED: 11/9/2018 10:43 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-sports-david-fizdale-timeouts-knicks-20181108-story.html
Caveat I don't like Bondy personally, but here's a clip from the above article. Fizz has to clean this up or get an assistant to help him. "Fizdale had four opportunities to draw up a winning shot in Monday’s double OT defeat to the Bulls, and the Knicks went 0-for-4 with just one decent look. In earlier games this season in ATO/inbounds situations, the Knicks allowed Brooklyn’s Caris LeVert to drive for a game-winner, and, a day later, struggled to get the ball in bounds on a potential game-tying possession against Boston. The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." (5)(5)
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Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 10:57 AM
Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." I'm sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with fact they're the youngest, least experienced team in the NBA. Nah, nothing. |
Chandler
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11/9/2018 12:34 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." of course it does. It also has something to do with the coaching (5)(5)
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Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 12:38 PM
Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." Okay. Why is Fizdale seemingly more successful in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd quarters, specifically? |
TripleThreat
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11/9/2018 1:02 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns."
It's hard to stop a run fighting 5 on 8. Knicks have journeymen, retreads and really young players. They've also got guys hurt. Refs have no incentive to give them anything. Vonleh gets like zero calls. Kanter will get some calls because the refs understand if they keep jobbing him, he'll start a fight in the parking lot. While it seems counter intuitive, a guy like Vonleh would be better off just knocking someone the **** out. Once you fight in the NBA, they hard review all the calls leading up to it. Then the refs are punished for jobbing teams and players when they know if they don't job them, they won't stay refs for long. Cheat for us, but don't get caught. This is why NBA refs are under so much pressure. How can you manipulate a game without too much scrutiny. Steph Curry would have it so much easier if he ate a 10 game suspension and just throttled some mother****er. The refs then would have to start doing something about all the hard contact he gets with no call. |
knicks1248
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11/9/2018 1:15 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." Im not sure who stated we were the youngest team in the NBA, when that actually goes to the (9-2)Denver nuggets and 2nd is the (9-3)portland trail blazers https://herosports.com/nba/oldest-youngest-teams-start-2018-19-season-byby ES
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Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 1:16 PM
TripleThreat wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." I think the more important question TT is did Nasa and Walt Disney destroy the sets used to fake the moon landing or are they still stored in the secret bunker under the Griffith Observatory? |
Kemet
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11/9/2018 1:21 PM
Chandler wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-sports-david-fizdale-timeouts-knicks-20181108-story.html In the 12 games the Knicks played this season, coach Fizdale has showed he's more inexperience than Hornacek as a X n O head coach. I'm still waiting for one Knick game that shows signs of development in the Knick players. Fizdale's offense has been shooting 3's and isolation scoring, plus Fizdale's half-court defense format has not stop any Knick opponent from scoring during crunch time situation. After 12 games the question still stands: |
Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 1:24 PM
Kemet wrote:When are the Knicks going to start developing their young-core players ??? This is an outright silly question to ask publicly because it is entirely dependent on your very subjective opinion as to what that is. |
Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 1:56 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." RealGM has different numbers. https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/transactions/composition_search Knicks are second behind Chicago here. Of course that includes 33 year-old Lee who hasn't played a minute, and doesn't seem to include the 22 year old Trier (seems limited to 15 players, not 16 which Trier actually is for the moment). Not even mentioning 30-yo Thomas. But all fair enough. Add in experience and I think its likely the Knicks are putting the less experienced NBA team on the floor, probably by far. Mitchell (not even mentioning his lack of experience, period), Trier, Dotson, Knox, and Nitilikina have a combined 112 NBA games and 31 starts between them. I doubt Denver or Portland compare to that. |
Chandler
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11/9/2018 2:03 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." personally, I have no idea how he does in the other 36 minutes, but if it's the case that he's not the worst rating in the league, you should send him a medal for the accomplishment why is everyone so touchy about a legitimate criticism on something that is fixable (5)(5)
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arkrud
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11/9/2018 2:10 PM
Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." What you can run as a coach if you have a bunch or rookies and busts? "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 2:20 PM
Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Chandler wrote:The mishaps are obviously more pronounced in the fourth quarter, and the Knicks are getting beat by an average of 5.1 points in those final 12 minutes. It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." Nothing to do with touchy. The point of this forum is to respond to posts. So I did. What I found curious was this: "It’s the worst rating in the league, and the near collapse Wednesday against Atlanta did not alleviate the concerns." Has the person wrote it or the person who quoted actually ever seen a 4th quarter of an NBA basketball game? :-) |
Kemet
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11/9/2018 2:27 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Kemet wrote:When are the Knicks going to start developing their young-core players ??? Having two young-core players in the starting lineup Frank/Burke, letting the two young players play 10 games running a few plays (using screens, picks, and box-out to score and rebound) having Tim/LT/and Kanter in the lineup.
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Knickoftime
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11/9/2018 6:53 PM
Kemet wrote:Knickoftime wrote:Kemet wrote:When are the Knicks going to start developing their young-core players ??? So just to be clear, this seems to suggest the Knicks have the talent to be a good NBA basketball team. They're a couple of close-outs from being a .500 team or better. Do YOU think this team is better than a lottery team based on pure talent? |
TripleThreat
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11/9/2018 8:00 PM
Kemet wrote: Fizdale's offense has been shooting 3's and isolation scoring
People here, many, roundly criticized Pringles as coach. They did so when he was in LA too. But give him talent in Houston and you see something different. Kanter, Burke, Trier and THJr all have some black hole tendencies to their game. The benefit of contract year guys is you'll get top effort. They want to get a new contract. The bad side is they are more concerned with their own counting stats because that's more in line with that new contract than helping the team win. Or even just play sound team basketball. You could bring Chuck Daly back to life and put him in charge of this team and you'd still see many of the same problems. A marker of Fizdale might just be THJr. With basically three years left on his deal, he can dog it if he wants, but he's not. |