meloshouldgo wrote:If he starts including defense reps into his insane practice - he will be a really good player. But he has to include defense and passing so those comenatuaraly like the shooting and dribbling. He may never have great court vision,but his speed will allow him to set up bigs like Kanter for dunks all the time.

Been making chase down blocks since SL. Fizdale brought it up a while back. Trier had a nice one last night as well. Shows there is something to build on defensively.

His college career was not a walk in the park. There are many times Trier’s love for basketball was tested. One example of this would be the multiple suspensions he served for a positive test of PEDs, minuscule traces seemed like overkill by the NCAA who sidelined him for a few games. After an injury in his freshman season, he came back to Arizona ready to show the world what he was made of. Zo has endured adversity each season but it did not deter him from working on his craft and supporting his teammates.

During his time at the University of Arizona, Allonzo averaged 16 points a game with a field goal percentage of 48% Not to mention shooting 56.5% from inside the three points arc and 38% from beyond the three-point arc.

These stats are the main reason why so many PAC-12 schools rejoiced when he announced that he is going to put his name into the NBA draft. While Arizona fans cling to the memories that he brought to the Arizona Basketball Program. The late-season Wooden Award finalist improved each season in every category, he finished his college career making 86.5% of his free throws which was good for No. 2 in the Pac-12 behind Utah’s Justin Bibbins.

In the 2017-2018 season, Trier ranked No. 1 in Offensive Box Plus/Minus and True Shooting Percentage (at 65.4%), Ayton came in third at 65%.

Allonzo Trier has a game similar to Damian Lillard of the Portland Trail Blazers. There is a lot of teams that could use a Damian Lillard type of player on their roster right now due to the way he can affect the game. With that being said, NBA owners should take a good long hard look at Allonzo Trier before passing on him. Any teams sleeping on Allonzo Trier will soon be awake as soon as he gets his chance in the NBA.

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:If he starts including defense reps into his insane practice - he will be a really good player. But he has to include defense and passing so those comenatuaraly like the shooting and dribbling. He may never have great court vision,but his speed will allow him to set up bigs like Kanter for dunks all the time.

Been making chase down blocks since SL. Fizdale brought it up a while back. Trier had a nice one last night as well. Shows there is something to build on defensively.

CrushAlot wrote:That is a great article. The Knicks stole Trier.

A grand theft indeed. There were 60 opportunities to land Trier. No one bit. Someone (Perry?) tracked this player since 2009, when the article was written. The rewards goes to the most prepared! (Trier/Perry)

StarksEwing1 wrote:My only issue with Trier is eventually teams are gonna gameplan for him and when his offense isnt there will he be able to contribute in other ways?

Like all pure gunners, he's going to be useful when his shot is falling. Nothing he's shown for his entire playing CAREER THUS FAR indicates he can produce offensively enough at volume and consistency at THE NBA LEVEL to be shoot first/shoot all/ shoot only gunner.

He only knows how to play ONE WAY and one way only.

He got caught doing PEDS. I don't care how it's framed in the media, you have to be a bonehead in the NBA/NCAA to get caught doing PEDS. There are literally 5-6 different established informal pathways for NBA/NCAA guys to know the test is coming and when. His coach openly said move the ball and he kept chucking.

He comes off as high effort ( he wants long term security right...) but undisciplined.

Everyone here hopes he breaks out and breaks out long term for this team, but it's early and it's better to wait and see. When the league gets a better scouting "book" on him and they adjust and how he counteradjusts, that will say a lot. Something troubling is you don't see any counteradjustments now. He's playing one way, one type of ball and that's it. Which, again, is fine if he can be an effective gunner at volume and consistency, but that's pretty rare.

Wait and see. Costs the Knicks nothing to wait and see.

He's doing a nice job around the rim. He has an innate feel for natural spacing/operating in close contact. Some of the things he's doing, you can't teach. That being said, you have to adjust at this level.

I want him to do well, but he's an undisciplined chucker until he shows consistency otherwise. Contract wise, as I always say, you don't buy an engagement ring after one great blowjob. A long term NBA contract is just that, a COMMITMENT that's enforced even if the player doesn't hold up his end for sheer effort ( Melo, Bargs, STAT, Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Noah, do I need to go on?)

As fans, nice to be excited about something. For functional rational team building, wait and see.

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Jmpasq wrote:I have a question how much could he get in FA next year. Is it feasible we could lose him immediately. Shouldn't we offer a full deal right now like Robinson.

I think he is locked into his two way deal. My guess is the Knicks are looking to move Lee to free up a roster space. If not maybe they move Dotson for a future second or something. I don't think they just waive someone unless it is Mudiay.

The Knicks can sign him to any NBA contract as long as they use cap space or an exemption. His two-way contract is treated like a g league deal. Knicks should try to sign him for at least three years. If we can get him for three years at 1.4 mill per year, that would be solid for the team. Trier can then take over if he continues to improve and we decide not to resign Hardaway. However, I agree with others that he needs to develop as a passer.

Having both Trier and Robinson on one of those 4 year deals would be huge because it makes for 2 rotation players at a minimal cost. I agree about Trier and becoming a better passer. Hopefully he does in the future, but even if he doesn't, i think he has a place as a big-time bench scorer.