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WaltLongmire
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10/8/2018  12:24 PM
Don't know squat about the guy...but the Suns have had a ton of lottery picks in the past few years and continue to be terrible.

Real question is why they did it now, and not before the draft...and not before he hired a new coach in May.

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10/8/2018  12:51 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:Don't know squat about the guy...but the Suns have had a ton of lottery picks in the past few years and continue to be terrible.

Real question is why they did it now, and not before the draft...and not before he hired a new coach in May.

Probably because they saw how they played in their preseason games

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10/8/2018  12:52 PM
Sarver is very DolanEsque but my guess would be some breach of his contract. Either Substance, harassment, or non hoop related.
Im sure we'll know soon enough.
Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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10/8/2018  12:55 PM
T-minus not very much before Triple chimes in about someone banging someone's wife
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10/8/2018  1:14 PM
martin wrote:T-minus not very much before Triple chimes in about someone banging someone's wife

or what Nike wanted.

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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10/8/2018  1:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/8/2018  1:45 PM
McDonough made a lot of bad decisions in trade, free agency, and draft, but i know ownership's directions were all over the place as well, so it couldn't have helped.
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10/8/2018  2:24 PM
Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.

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10/8/2018  2:32 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.


Don't see anything terrible about the Ariza signing. You need that veteran to help ease the rookie in. But, I agree that the trade to get Bridges was questionable. At least it is wasn't for another Center/power forward.
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10/8/2018  3:03 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.

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10/8/2018  3:42 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.

Ok that isn't a horrendous trade

Mycal looks bad though and I think they are still a bad team. I could see the firing being related to the owner wanting a winning team and feeling they needed a New GM to make those moves.

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10/8/2018  3:50 PM
This is what happens when you focus on building through the draft, continue to lose, not landing any Prime FA, no power trades.

you can only run that game for a yr of 2

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10/8/2018  4:04 PM
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.

Ok that isn't a horrendous trade

Mycal looks bad though and I think they are still a bad team. I could see the firing being related to the owner wanting a winning team and feeling they needed a New GM to make those moves.

It is when you see how they’re struggling to trade for a PG- would have been much easier with that Miami pick. Now they have no pg, going into a season where their every move was geared towards winning this year. They used one of their better assets (the Miami pick) to land another SF when they already have Ariza and Jackson, and as the final insult Bridges has looked pretty bad so far.

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10/8/2018  4:12 PM
knicks1248 wrote:This is what happens when you focus on building through the draft, continue to lose, not landing any Prime FA, no power trades.

you can only run that game for a yr of 2

Nope, It’s what happens when you draft badly and poorly develop those young players. You’re the only person on earth who thinks building through the draft is a bad strategy

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10/8/2018  5:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/8/2018  5:36 PM
smackeddog wrote:
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Didn’t this dude trade #13 and an unprotected 2019 1sr to Sixers for the great Mykal Bridges?

Would fired him right then on draft night.

And he did this (drafting) Bridges (an older draft pick) after signing Arica to block his minutes and also already having SF from NC State at the SF spot.

No way Suns should be moving unprotected picks in their still building situation.

And they gift Sixers an extra pick as a favor to us Knick fans.

Ok that isn't a horrendous trade

Mycal looks bad though and I think they are still a bad team. I could see the firing being related to the owner wanting a winning team and feeling they needed a New GM to make those moves.

It is when you see how they’re struggling to trade for a PG- would have been much easier with that Miami pick. Now they have no pg, going into a season where their every move was geared towards winning this year. They used one of their better assets (the Miami pick) to land another SF when they already have Ariza and Jackson, and as the final insult Bridges has looked pretty bad so far.

This is it exactly. Trading up for Mychal instead of taking SGA a PG also doesn't make sense. Plus SGA looks like he would of worked great with their team. He messed up the draft and can't fix it, also yeah all indications based on FA point to this being the year they made a playoff push.

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10/8/2018  5:44 PM
Wojo mentions Sarver one of the leagues most involved owners in personal moves.
I don’t know who is responsible for what goes on there but where there is one constant among many changes its pretty obvious. The organization has turned to crap since he bought it.
Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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10/9/2018  12:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/9/2018  3:48 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This is what happens when you focus on building through the draft, continue to lose, not landing any Prime FA, no power trades.

you can only run that game for a yr of 2

Nope, It’s what happens when you draft badly and poorly develop those young players. You’re the only person on earth who thinks building through the draft is a bad strategy

the irony of course is that the Sixers built through the draft, continued to lose, did not land any prime FA or have any power trades (unless getting Futz instead of Tatum and another #1 counts as a power trade)

As Smacked said, it gets to bad drafting and development. And, guess what, the bad teams don't draft well -- year after year even with top picks

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10/9/2018  3:57 PM
Wojo paints Sarver in pretty bad light.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24942773/phoenix-suns-leaning-promoting-james-jones-full-general-manager
This dumbass seemingly cleaned house a week before the season started.

I have been trying to tell most of you the owner sets the tone and pace for a franchise. If owner is in on the decisions its one thing but if he don't know much, its ignorant.

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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