I was on this kid the moment we signed him in the summer after seeing him quite a bit in Arizona. If Fiz is a man of his word, at this point, Zo is earning a roster spot. He's clearly outplayed Mudiay and deserves a spot over him but will Knicks have the balls to send Mudiay back to china?

Uptown wrote:Knicks secured 3 legit first rounders this summer...Zo is a professional scorer, who can get his own shot at any time against almost any defender. His skill set is needed in today's NBA, especially when the game slows down and your sets are well scouted and become predictable.

I was on this kid the moment we signed him in the summer after seeing him quite a bit in Arizona. If Fiz is a man of his word, at this point, Zo is earning a roster spot. He's clearly outplayed Mudiay and deserves a spot over him but will Knicks have the balls to send Mudiay back to china?

For whatever reason I am not yet on the Trier train even though he has scored a bunch in 2 preseason games - for me he holds the ball too much but I am willing to be patient on that for a while - but man Mudiay does suck so much.

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:Knicks secured 3 legit first rounders this summer...Zo is a professional scorer, who can get his own shot at any time against almost any defender. His skill set is needed in today's NBA, especially when the game slows down and your sets are well scouted and become predictable.

I was on this kid the moment we signed him in the summer after seeing him quite a bit in Arizona. If Fiz is a man of his word, at this point, Zo is earning a roster spot. He's clearly outplayed Mudiay and deserves a spot over him but will Knicks have the balls to send Mudiay back to china?

For whatever reason I am not yet on the Trier train even though he has scored a bunch in 2 preseason games - for me he holds the ball too much but I am willing to be patient on that for a while - but man Mudiay does suck so much.

The ball does stick with him and to me, it's okay so long as most of his teammates are ball movers. Plus he's a bench player who knows his role as instant offense off the bench, so if the shot isn't falling, Fiz can yank him. Unlike Melo who tended to hold the ball, we are not a slave to his contract or status...

Agreed that we still need to let this play out, so I'm not saying his spot should be set in stone at this point, but if he continues to play this aggressively and show the ability to get off good looks regardless of who is in front of him, he deserves a new contract and spot on the roster.

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:Knicks secured 3 legit first rounders this summer...Zo is a professional scorer, who can get his own shot at any time against almost any defender. His skill set is needed in today's NBA, especially when the game slows down and your sets are well scouted and become predictable.

I was on this kid the moment we signed him in the summer after seeing him quite a bit in Arizona. If Fiz is a man of his word, at this point, Zo is earning a roster spot. He's clearly outplayed Mudiay and deserves a spot over him but will Knicks have the balls to send Mudiay back to china?

For whatever reason I am not yet on the Trier train even though he has scored a bunch in 2 preseason games - for me he holds the ball too much but I am willing to be patient on that for a while - but man Mudiay does suck so much.

Fizdale was asked about his "one second rule" when it comes to holding the ball, making a decision. Said he knows that when you have a player like Trier, with his ISO skills, you make exceptions. You dont become doctrinaire.

Thats refreshing to me because it shows that Fizdale isnt so married to his system, that he wont adapt to his roster.

This has been a problem with former regimes and their systems, find it refreshing.

You hit it on the head with adaptive to his roster...Feel like we nailed it with the Fiz hire. He gets it....Dark clouds seem to be clearing away from the garden.

StarksEwing1 wrote:So far Trier has opened a bunch of eyes and deserves to be on the roster. The question becomes can he keep it up when the real games begin

Sounds similar to what you were saying when Burke is tearing up the G league. This kid is the real deal and plays with a boat load of confidence, some of you will have a hard time with him because he tends to hold the ball and a lot of ISO's.

I love him because he gets to the FT line and he knocks them down

StarksEwing1 wrote:So far Trier has opened a bunch of eyes and deserves to be on the roster. The question becomes can he keep it up when the real games begin

He's a ballsy sob...and probably holds the ball too much, but most of the shots he's taken have been pretty good looks. He's also crafty as hell as a scorer.

Did a lot of research on him when we picked him up, and he sure as heck looked like an early 2nd pick to me.

I think his D is better than it was in SL, and it looks like he's worked on his upper body. You don't like to see the 5 turnovers- but everything else he did looked impressive.

His jumper is a little different, but he always gets it off.I don't recall him finishing with his left hand yesterday, but seem to recall seeing him use it in college highlights.

You can make a case that we got 3 of the top 35 players in the draft. Time will tell, but, at the very least, this guy is going to be an instant offense guy off the bench...hopefully the way JR was for us when he got the 6th man award.

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:Knicks secured 3 legit first rounders this summer...Zo is a professional scorer, who can get his own shot at any time against almost any defender. His skill set is needed in today's NBA, especially when the game slows down and your sets are well scouted and become predictable.

I was on this kid the moment we signed him in the summer after seeing him quite a bit in Arizona. If Fiz is a man of his word, at this point, Zo is earning a roster spot. He's clearly outplayed Mudiay and deserves a spot over him but will Knicks have the balls to send Mudiay back to china?

For whatever reason I am not yet on the Trier train even though he has scored a bunch in 2 preseason games - for me he holds the ball too much but I am willing to be patient on that for a while - but man Mudiay does suck so much.

I normally don't like someone that holds the ball that long....But Trier at least tries to run the offense, and play in the flow first....When that doesn't work, he has the IQ to know when to go into "ISO ZO" mode, without icing his teammates. He has the potential to be 6th man on a good team right now! Imagine what he will be in 5 yrs..........

CrushAlot wrote:Trier was the 12th ranked player coming out of high school for his class. At one point he was ranked in the top 5 for his class. The ped suspensions hurt his draft stock. Robinson and Trier both fell in the draft but both look like steals for the Knicks.

Not sure it was just the PEDs. There are guys who hav done worse things that have been drafted. That said, it looks like we got a solid hit on undrafted free agent.The draft and rookie free agency are tools that seem to be paying off for us, finally!

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BigDaddyG wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Trier was the 12th ranked player coming out of high school for his class. At one point he was ranked in the top 5 for his class. The ped suspensions hurt his draft stock. Robinson and Trier both fell in the draft but both look like steals for the Knicks.

Not sure it was just the PEDs. There are guys who hav done worse things that have been drafted. That said, it looks like we got a solid hit on undrafted free agent.The draft and rookie free agency are tools that seem to be paying off for us, finally!

Finally is right....Spoken like a true knick fans, with permanent wounds.

We can all thank Fisher for winning those last few games. Caused KP to land on our lap, and our draft luck has changed ever since.

Yes, the past three years we have wanted to lose more games but it turned out good for us with the picks we ended up with. Just goes to show that tanking is not always worth it. It is better to have a high quality scouting department than to tank.

Trier fell because of the PEDs, the fact that his defense was so-so in college and he had few assists, and the fact that he is older (23 yrs). Teams always go for youth and pass over quality upperclassmen whom they don't believe have the same upside. It is a stupid way to think because if a guy can play, then draft him. It does not matter if he is 22-24 years old.

Nalod wrote:trier fell because in part of PED’s, but also a reputation as a selfish player.
This guy was passed over 60 times! Let’s not fool ourselves that we are smarter or Lucky.
Fact is we have opportunities because we suck and its a good place for him to get an audition.
He picked us for a reason. I’m not saying its not a good thing but this is what bad teams should do.
His early projections are he has the talent but a bone head. JR had all star talent but was a bone head.
Maybe he can change his trajectory and prove everyone wrong. This is a guy I’d be afraid to give a long term contract to. That’s why he was undrafted.

He would have been taken in the 45-60 range but told teams no because he wanted to go with the Knicks. The PED stuff is worrisome because he has been bulking lately.