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StarksEwing1
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10/1/2018  2:21 PM
Sorry if this is a little early. Im excited for the season to watch the kids grow BUT im also excited for adding more youth next year as well as a potential big free agent. Obviously we all expect our first rounder to be high BUT we also have 2 2nd rounders from Houston and Cleveland. Obviously the Houston pick will be at the end of the round BUT the Cleveland pick can be pretty high. This is important because you can find some gems early in the second round(Mitchell robinson). My question is are there any restrictions on the picks. I though I rad that somebody has the option to flip picks with the Cleveland pick?
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10/1/2018  3:21 PM
I'm getting this from RealGM, but I believe we only have one second:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2019 second round draft pick from Orlando, Cleveland or Houston (least favorable)
Orlando will receive the most favorable of its 2019 2nd round pick, Cleveland's 2019 2nd round pick, Houston's 2019 2nd round pick and Portland's 2019 2nd round pick; Sacramento will receive the second most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick and New York will receive the least favorable of these three picks; L.A. Clippers will receive the less favorable of (i) the Portland pick and (ii) the most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick (via Orlando's right to swap for Cleveland or Houston (via Cleveland and Houston to New York); via New York to Sacramento; via Portland to Orlando to Detroit to L.A. Clippers) [Cleveland-New York-Oklahoma City, 1/5/2015; Houston-New York, 2/19/2015; New York-Orlando, 7/9/2015; Orlando-Portland, 6/23/2016; Detroit-Orlando, 6/29/2016; New York-Sacramento, 7/14/2017; Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 1/29/2018]
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10/1/2018  10:41 PM
It'll likely be Houstons so around 57 or so.......possibly 60

Also, the Knicks have their own.

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StarksEwing1
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10/1/2018  10:42 PM
wargames wrote:It'll likely be Houstons so around 57 or so.......possibly 60

Also, the Knicks have their own.

im pretty sure we traded our own a while back
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10/1/2018  11:16 PM
yes we do not have second round picks next year, but next year is definitely FA addition season for us.
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10/1/2018  11:55 PM
Cartman718 wrote:yes we do not have second round picks next year, but next year is definitely FA addition season for us.
we have 2 2nd rounders from trades just not our own
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10/2/2018  12:12 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:yes we do not have second round picks next year, but next year is definitely FA addition season for us.
we have 2 2nd rounders from trades just not our own


Both of you may want to read this link:

BigDaddyG wrote:I'm getting this from RealGM, but I believe we only have one second:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2019 second round draft pick from Orlando, Cleveland or Houston (least favorable)
Orlando will receive the most favorable of its 2019 2nd round pick, Cleveland's 2019 2nd round pick, Houston's 2019 2nd round pick and Portland's 2019 2nd round pick; Sacramento will receive the second most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick and New York will receive the least favorable of these three picks; L.A. Clippers will receive the less favorable of (i) the Portland pick and (ii) the most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick (via Orlando's right to swap for Cleveland or Houston (via Cleveland and Houston to New York); via New York to Sacramento; via Portland to Orlando to Detroit to L.A. Clippers) [Cleveland-New York-Oklahoma City, 1/5/2015; Houston-New York, 2/19/2015; New York-Orlando, 7/9/2015; Orlando-Portland, 6/23/2016; Detroit-Orlando, 6/29/2016; New York-Sacramento, 7/14/2017; Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 1/29/2018]

2019 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
New York's 2019 2nd round pick to Brooklyn (via Philadelphia) [New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014; Brooklyn-Philadelphia, 12/7/2017]

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10/2/2018  6:14 AM
Ok so we're going to get Brooklyn's and maybe (likely) Houston.

So that is a pick in the 30-35 range and the 55-60 range.

Not bad

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10/2/2018  7:09 AM
wargames wrote:Ok so we're going to get Brooklyn's and maybe (likely) Houston.

So that is a pick in the 30-35 range and the 55-60 range.

Not bad


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10/2/2018  7:54 AM
**** it, its going to be a pick 55-60 range.... I'm going to go to sleep after we draft in the 1st round
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10/2/2018  8:53 AM
wargames wrote:**** it, its going to be a pick 55-60 range.... I'm going to go to sleep after we draft in the 1st round

that pick this year would've landed someone trier, who i think is gonna be a real player. just sayin . . .
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10/2/2018  11:07 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:I'm getting this from RealGM, but I believe we only have one second:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2019 second round draft pick from Orlando, Cleveland or Houston (least favorable)
Orlando will receive the most favorable of its 2019 2nd round pick, Cleveland's 2019 2nd round pick, Houston's 2019 2nd round pick and Portland's 2019 2nd round pick; Sacramento will receive the second most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick and New York will receive the least favorable of these three picks; L.A. Clippers will receive the less favorable of (i) the Portland pick and (ii) the most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick (via Orlando's right to swap for Cleveland or Houston (via Cleveland and Houston to New York); via New York to Sacramento; via Portland to Orlando to Detroit to L.A. Clippers) [Cleveland-New York-Oklahoma City, 1/5/2015; Houston-New York, 2/19/2015; New York-Orlando, 7/9/2015; Orlando-Portland, 6/23/2016; Detroit-Orlando, 6/29/2016; New York-Sacramento, 7/14/2017; Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 1/29/2018]

What a convoluted bunch of garbage. Seems like lawyers were involved in this trade.
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10/2/2018  4:13 PM
wargames wrote:**** it, its going to be a pick 55-60 range.... I'm going to go to sleep after we draft in the 1st round


The one advantage of a pick in the 55-60 range is you are getting a player not much different than UDFA quality, but based on positional crunch, you might get a player you might not get otherwise.

For example, last offseason, the Warriors got a young big man, Chris Boucher, as an UDFA. Pivot was a position of flux for that team. Pachulia and McGee were not sure things at any point. West was very old, and the other candidates were very young as well. While the odds were low, Boucher had a better pathway to playing time ( Jordan Bell did , so there's that example) than he would on the Knicks with Kanter/pre injury KP/Noah/KOQ/pre trade Hernangomez

Teams are able to find some big men gems in the 2nd round. Knicks might be able to grab a decent big man prospect who might otherwise have signed with a different team as a UDFA based on pathway to minutes/playing time.

This is also where cap flexibility come into play. The Warriors could only sign Jordan Bell to a two year deal because they were so heavily cap locked. It's one thing with the Warriors, who are that way because they are bursting with talent. It's another thing on the Knicks, who just have some really ****ty contracts. You need cap flexibility to give your 2nd rounds some guaranteed money, so you can leverage a longer deal with them.

Someone like Jordan Bell for four years instead of two, at cost control, you can see the massive difference.

A pick in the late 50s is still an asset. Make the most out of it. See them like bullets in a gun. A bullet for a 50 caliber anti-material rifle would be cool. But a single shot from a Derringer can still kill somebody. Margin of error is vastly different though.

Try to see the good in the opportunity, even if it's just a matter of principle.
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10/2/2018  4:23 PM
It doesn't look like they have any second round picks. Draftnet and another draft site have them having one pick in the second round. Spotrac is generally right though.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/draft/2019/round-2/new-york-knicks/
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10/2/2018  4:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:It doesn't look like they have any second round picks. Draftnet and another draft site have them having one pick in the second round. Spotrac is generally right though.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/draft/2019/round-2/new-york-knicks/
They have one from the shupert trade. And one from the prigioni trade. However there are restrictions in terms of flipping picks
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10/2/2018  4:28 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:It doesn't look like they have any second round picks. Draftnet and another draft site have them having one pick in the second round. Spotrac is generally right though.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/draft/2019/round-2/new-york-knicks/
They have one from the shupert trade. And one from the prigioni trade. However there are restrictions in terms of flipping picks
Awesome. It looked like they had two picks coming in and two going out. That would actually leave them with 1 pick. I hope you are right.
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StarksEwing1
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10/2/2018  4:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:It doesn't look like they have any second round picks. Draftnet and another draft site have them having one pick in the second round. Spotrac is generally right though.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/draft/2019/round-2/new-york-knicks/
They have one from the shupert trade. And one from the prigioni trade. However there are restrictions in terms of flipping picks
Awesome. It looked like they had two picks coming in and two going out. That would actually leave them with 1 pick. I hope you are right.
As far as i know only their OWN second rounder was going out. The only draft pick we traded for the last few years was one of last years second rounders for mudiay
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10/2/2018  8:57 PM
Panos wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:I'm getting this from RealGM, but I believe we only have one second:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2019 second round draft pick from Orlando, Cleveland or Houston (least favorable)
Orlando will receive the most favorable of its 2019 2nd round pick, Cleveland's 2019 2nd round pick, Houston's 2019 2nd round pick and Portland's 2019 2nd round pick; Sacramento will receive the second most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick and New York will receive the least favorable of these three picks; L.A. Clippers will receive the less favorable of (i) the Portland pick and (ii) the most favorable of the Orlando pick, the Cleveland pick and the Houston pick (via Orlando's right to swap for Cleveland or Houston (via Cleveland and Houston to New York); via New York to Sacramento; via Portland to Orlando to Detroit to L.A. Clippers) [Cleveland-New York-Oklahoma City, 1/5/2015; Houston-New York, 2/19/2015; New York-Orlando, 7/9/2015; Orlando-Portland, 6/23/2016; Detroit-Orlando, 6/29/2016; New York-Sacramento, 7/14/2017; Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 1/29/2018]

What a convoluted bunch of garbage. Seems like lawyers were involved in this trade.

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