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9/16/2004  7:39 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/7684458
Ranking the shooting guards:

1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers: Unquestionably the third-best shooting guard of the past 20 years once you get past No. 23 and No. 45 ... Michael Jordan and, uh, Michael Jordan.

2. Tracy McGrady, Houston Rockets: Coming to the Rockets is a chance for T-Mac to redeem himself and silence all the critics accusing him of being a quitter last season.

3. Ray Allen, Seattle SuperSonics: A great shooter, but he hasn't proved he can raise his teammates' level of play yet and to be paid the maximum, he'll have to do that this season.

4. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: He is the second coming of Reggie Miller, with less range. He is non-stop motion and the best mid-range shooter in the game but needs to improve his defense.

5. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs: His toughness and versatility are exceptional, which makes his role more vital on the Spurs. And leading Argentina to the gold medal won't hurt his confidence, either.

6. Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks: He blossomed as one of the pre-eminent shooters in the game -- both from 3-point and mid-range. We'll see if he improved at all this summer ... particularly his floor game.

7. Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors: The past three years haven't even been half amazing. It's time for Carter to bounce back and lead this team somewhere, or he'll always be remembered as an underachiever.

8. Michael Finley, Dallas Mavericks: When he's healthy and running the floor, his jump shot is going in from everywhere and he's as effective as any open-floor player in the game. But that has become the exception rather than the rule.

9. Latrell Sprewell, Minnesota Timberwolves: He has lost a little bit off his fastball, but Spree is still capable of taking over games -- big games. But it doesn't happen as often as it used to. But if you ignore him, you're in trouble.

10. Corey Maggette, Los Angeles Clippers: He's so strong and athletic, and his jumper has improved every year. People forget he was 19 when he came into the league, but all of that potential is coming to fruition.

Also receiving consideration: Doug Christie, Sacramento Kings; Bonzi Wells, Memphis Grizzlies; Joe Johnson, Phoenix Suns; Jason Richardson, Golden State Warriors; Stephen Jackson, Indiana Pacers; Quentin Richardson, Phoenix Suns; Larry Hughes, Washington Wizards; Eddie Jones, Miami Heat; Allan Houston, New York Knicks; Derek Anderson, Portland Trail Blazers.
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9/16/2004  7:47 PM
This list is bogus, because it's all about, if he was this or health issuse, Then they want to put my man Allan at the bottom the the rest of those sub par players.

If allans healthy, he's top 3.
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9/16/2004  7:50 PM
Here's last years, same time...

2003-2004 PRESEASON
1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers: He has three rings, improved a lot as a passer last season and got much stronger. He's the new prototype, but his off-court issues are very likely to affect his game in some form this season.

2. Tracy McGrady, Orlando Magic: The only real issue with McGrady is his back. He hasn't missed a significant amount of games, but it has bothered him a significant amount of time. That aside, he is already a dream player at 24.

3. Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers: His ability to dominate games is even more dramatic because he is about 6-feet and 160 pounds. He played so well for the U.S. team in Puerto Rico he might pass the above duo this season.

4. Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics: The best clutch fourth-quarter scorer in the league, he is very strong and a great shooter, and he'll either get fouled or score. He damaged his reputation on the 2002 World Championship team as a selfish whiner, but the Celtics beg to differ.

5. Ray Allen, Seattle SuperSonics: He raised his play to superstar level after the Sonics got him in the Payton trade last year, and he was great in Puerto Rico. An exceptional talent and an even better person than player.

6. Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors: After constant knee issues, Carter says he's back and better than ever. His electrifying dunks aside, he doesn't have the ball-handling skills or defensive inclination of the others.

7. Michael Finley, Dallas Mavericks: Were it not for persistent hamstring problems, Finley might be ahead of Carter. He is a terrific post-up player and a great shooter but can't handle the ball or pass like the top guys, either.

8. Latrell Sprewell, Minnesota Timberwolves: Injuries and playing small forward in New York stifled his game. But getting traded to Minnesota and playing his natural position should rejuvenate him.

9. Allan Houston, New York Knicks: With Sprewell gone, Houston will be more of the focal point on offense. He is the best pure shooter of this group. His overall game isn't as good as the others, but he is a solid player in all ways.

10. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: A great mid-range shooter, he is young and still has to get stronger, but he showed last season he could slash to the rim as well as drain jumpers. Now he has to get a consistent 3-point shot.

Others considered: Jerry Stackhouse, Washington Wizards; Bonzi Wells, Portland Trail Blazers; Jalen Rose, Chicago Bulls; Eddie Jones, Miami Heat; Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs; Reggie Miller, Indiana Pacers.
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9/16/2004  7:55 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

If allans healthy, he's top 3.
TOP 3!! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!! He is not even close to being Top 5! No wait, TOP 10! They dont want to put "your man" Allan down, they are trying to rate by skill. This list however should not list Eddie Jones and Larry Hughes over Houston. Even though he is even more of a 1-dimensional than those two, he is still a little better than them.

They also left out Iverson in this list. He maybe a selfish player but he is still the 3rd best SG in the league.

Top 10
Kode, T-MAC, Iverson, Ray Allen, Carter, Redd, Rip Hamilton, Maggette, Sprewell, Richardson.
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Mac
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9/16/2004  8:04 PM
AI is a PG now.
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9/16/2004  8:17 PM
Posted by Mac:

AI is a PG now.
OH. I guess Pierce has moved to SF then? no wonder he wasn't on the list.
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9/16/2004  8:36 PM
if tmac was healthy, i would but him on number 1! Allan houston should be at ten if he was healthy
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9/16/2004  8:54 PM
Posted by MaRbUrYiSaKnIcK:

if tmac was healthy, i would but him on number 1!
Shouldn't the #1 SG be able to carry his team to a record better than dead last in his division?
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9/16/2004  9:24 PM
Is Paul Pierce no longer a shooting guard? I have always considered him to be just as good as Kobe and T-Mac. Afterall, didn't he once lead the league in 4th quarter scoring?
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9/16/2004  10:07 PM
my rankings from The Zone:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Allen Iverson
3. Tracy McGrady
4. Lebron James
5. Paul Pierce
6. Ray Allen
7. Vince Carter
8. Richard Hamilton
9. Quentin Richardson
10. Michael Finley
11. Michael Redd
12. Allan Houston
13. Latrell Sprewell
14. Jerry Stackhouse
15. Kerry Kittles
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9/16/2004  10:47 PM
dang billi is high up on that list. the dude is putting him there all because of his olympic play.
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9/16/2004  11:42 PM
houston isn't top 20 right now
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9/17/2004  12:00 AM
Posted by TMS:

12. Allan Houston
13. Latrell Sprewell
Spree is better than Houston. Not only on offense but during the overall game. He also shows up for big games better than Houston. I am not a huge spree fan but I do remember he was playing out of position at SF and still did better on defense guarding people bigger and taller than him.
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9/17/2004  12:34 AM
the only guy on there Houston is still better than is Kittles
BRIGGS
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9/17/2004  1:20 AM
top 10

1.Kobe
2.Tmac
3.Allen
4 James
5.Carter
6 Hamilton
7 Maggette
8 Wade
9 J Johnson
10.J Richardson
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9/17/2004  1:23 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

top 10

1.Kobe
2.Tmac
3.Allen
4 James
5.Carter
6 Hamilton
7 Maggette
8 Wade
9 J Johnson
10.J Richardson

If they count Pierce as a shooting G I would put at #3 and move everyone else down.
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9/17/2004  8:21 AM
BRIGGS, you don't even have Iverson in your top 10???
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