Some good quotes:

“I’ve been around, I’ve seen a lot here at the Garden, and what I try to do is learn from what I’ve seen and what I’ve experienced. I know those short-term quick fixes, you’re planning one way and then all of a sudden you’re making a shift. It’s one thing if you’re right on the cusp of competing for a championship, but when you’re where we are to all of a sudden pivot and go in a different direction, I’ve just seen it go wrong too many times. I’m not going to be part of doing it that way.”

I do feel like it’s going to work because I think we have patience, which is not something that normally is connected with how the Knicks operate,” Mills said. “We laid out a plan that requires patience and Jim agreed to buy into it. That’s what I think makes it different.

“I believe the fans will accept a team that has a plan and you stick with it and if you deliver players, you do have some hope. [Porzingis] is an elite player in the NBA. He has an injury, but he’s a very special player. We added some players in the draft. Hopefully this year will be a big move for Frank. He’s a lot more confident. We think we have something we can see is different as long as we have the patience to stick to it.”

“The first thing we had to do was convince players this is a good place to play and that we have a plan, what their role is in the plan, and to make them feel comfortable that we’re doing something the right way, that we’re going in a positive direction and make them feel like part of something important and they’re going to be part of something big. And that was our goal throughout the season, to make these guys believers in us and believers in the Knicks.

“And at the same time convince the players outside of the Knicks that something’s different here and this team is going in the right direction and this is a good place to be.”

By Steve Popper

GustavBahler wrote:Been saying mostly nice things about the job Perry/Mills have been doing, almost all good.

Still, I wish Mills would finally STFU with this "I was just an innocent buystander" BS.

Plenty of bad decisions made by Mills with the Knicks, which I wont go into again.

Enough to say that this continuing attempt to completely obscure his role in 20 plus years of futility is pathetic and nauseating.

You can't pin the past on Mills. His first tenure was overseeing MSG, not the knicks.
His knick presidency after Grunwald was just a few months and was put on hold when phil was negotiating.
What you know was Phil was firmly in charge.
Many execs don't agree with their superiors but have to own it publicly.
Even if im all wrong, this is the first window we had our picks. Knicks tanked when KP went down. Can't ask for a better plan. Post KP knicks were 2nd worst team in the league. Thats real.
Knox is a high ceiling pick. Good choice. Robinson great pick. All high ceiling. Love picking up Fiz. Nobody is expecting instant results.
None of the same bullshyt hype. This is still a rebuilding. If Isiah was in charge of this i'd be applauding it.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Been saying mostly nice things about the job Perry/Mills have been doing, almost all good.

Still, I wish Mills would finally STFU with this "I was just an innocent buystander" BS.

Plenty of bad decisions made by Mills with the Knicks, which I wont go into again.

Enough to say that this continuing attempt to completely obscure his role in 20 plus years of futility is pathetic and nauseating.

You can't pin the past on Mills. His first tenure was overseeing MSG, not the knicks.
His knick presidency after Grunwald was just a few months and was put on hold when phil was negotiating.
What you know was Phil was firmly in charge.
Many execs don't agree with their superiors but have to own it publicly.
Even if im all wrong, this is the first window we had our picks. Knicks tanked when KP went down. Can't ask for a better plan. Post KP knicks were 2nd worst team in the league. Thats real.
Knox is a high ceiling pick. Good choice. Robinson great pick. All high ceiling. Love picking up Fiz. Nobody is expecting instant results.
None of the same bullshyt hype. This is still a rebuilding. If Isiah was in charge of this i'd be applauding it.

I am not suggesting that Steve Mills is the author of all our pain, so to speak. Dolan bears most of the blame. Mills made enough bad decisions on his own, when empowered by Dolan to do so. Made a costly mistake in the Shumpert trade that was General Manager 101 stuff.

After all these years with the organization to keep saying that all the bad decisions in the past decades were entirely someone else's fault is offensive to me as a long time Knicks fan.

Im surprised Dolan hasnt called Mills up and asked him whats with all the buck passing?

Mills is putting 100 percent on Dolan, and every other past Knicks exec. Not sure why this sits well with Dolan.

Maybe because its true?
Maybe Mills was in Dolan's ear for sometime advocating for this? You seem to confuse Mills role in the Isiah Era.
Why are you offended by this?

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Been saying mostly nice things about the job Perry/Mills have been doing, almost all good.

Still, I wish Mills would finally STFU with this "I was just an innocent buystander" BS.

Plenty of bad decisions made by Mills with the Knicks, which I wont go into again.

Enough to say that this continuing attempt to completely obscure his role in 20 plus years of futility is pathetic and nauseating.

You can't pin the past on Mills. His first tenure was overseeing MSG, not the knicks.
His knick presidency after Grunwald was just a few months and was put on hold when phil was negotiating.
What you know was Phil was firmly in charge.
Many execs don't agree with their superiors but have to own it publicly.
Even if im all wrong, this is the first window we had our picks. Knicks tanked when KP went down. Can't ask for a better plan. Post KP knicks were 2nd worst team in the league. Thats real.
Knox is a high ceiling pick. Good choice. Robinson great pick. All high ceiling. Love picking up Fiz. Nobody is expecting instant results.
None of the same bullshyt hype. This is still a rebuilding. If Isiah was in charge of this i'd be applauding it.

I am not suggesting that Steve Mills is the author of all our pain, so to speak. Dolan bears most of the blame. Mills made enough bad decisions on his own, when empowered by Dolan to do so. Made a costly mistake in the Shumpert trade that was General Manager 101 stuff.

After all these years with the organization to keep saying that all the bad decisions in the past decades were entirely someone else's fault is offensive to me as a long time Knicks fan.

Im surprised Dolan hasnt called Mills up and asked him whats with all the buck passing?

Mills is putting 100 percent on Dolan, and every other past Knicks exec. Not sure why this sits well with Dolan.

Maybe because its true?
Maybe Mills was in Dolan's ear for sometime advocating for this? You seem to confuse Mills role in the Isiah Era.
Why are you offended by this?

Not going to catalog the mistakes Mills made as an exec, before and after the lawsuit. The one where he was found guilty of enabling bad behavior, like Isiah. Found a way back to MSG, like Isiah.

Ill just say that Steve Mills has absolutely no business talking about the past failures of the NY Knicks without using "we". None whatsoever.

Cant believe anyone would even try to suggest that Steve Mills didnt make a single mistake as an exec worth owning up to. Cultish.

Never said he was not without fault. I do know enough that in Corp. America you sometimes have to own decisions made by your boss and implement. You might voice that think its a good idea. As for Isiah, do you know at all Mills did not suggest to Dolan to not extend him, or even contest Anucha in court. Just pay her and be done with it? Of course not. Neither do I. But I do no the one constant thru the years of bad decisions was not the legions of coach's, GM's or presidents, it was Dolan.
In his tenure The Mills Era starts with the exit of Phil. Simple really. This is his era good, bad or indifferent. This is his coach, Knox is his pick. Frank was on Phil and Gaines. "Frankly", im fine with Ntilinka and his upside. Jeff was given a solid chance.
Going forward Frank is on Mills because he has not traded him (yet?)after a full season.
No cult, just logic. If you have solid facts please include them. I can't verify exactly all of Mills input or not, but in the absence of that it falls on the man in charge. Isiah was team president. Phil was team president. Mills was the GM under him but we all know who drove the decisions. Mills got the gig he signed up for when Dolan recruited him back. He has his GM and coach now.

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Been saying mostly nice things about the job Perry/Mills have been doing, almost all good.

Still, I wish Mills would finally STFU with this "I was just an innocent buystander" BS.

Plenty of bad decisions made by Mills with the Knicks, which I wont go into again.

Enough to say that this continuing attempt to completely obscure his role in 20 plus years of futility is pathetic and nauseating.

You can't pin the past on Mills. His first tenure was overseeing MSG, not the knicks.
His knick presidency after Grunwald was just a few months and was put on hold when phil was negotiating.
What you know was Phil was firmly in charge.
Many execs don't agree with their superiors but have to own it publicly.
Even if im all wrong, this is the first window we had our picks. Knicks tanked when KP went down. Can't ask for a better plan. Post KP knicks were 2nd worst team in the league. Thats real.
Knox is a high ceiling pick. Good choice. Robinson great pick. All high ceiling. Love picking up Fiz. Nobody is expecting instant results.
None of the same bullshyt hype. This is still a rebuilding. If Isiah was in charge of this i'd be applauding it.

I am not suggesting that Steve Mills is the author of all our pain, so to speak. Dolan bears most of the blame. Mills made enough bad decisions on his own, when empowered by Dolan to do so. Made a costly mistake in the Shumpert trade that was General Manager 101 stuff.

After all these years with the organization to keep saying that all the bad decisions in the past decades were entirely someone else's fault is offensive to me as a long time Knicks fan.

Im surprised Dolan hasnt called Mills up and asked him whats with all the buck passing?

Mills is putting 100 percent on Dolan, and every other past Knicks exec. Not sure why this sits well with Dolan.

Maybe because its true?
Maybe Mills was in Dolan's ear for sometime advocating for this? You seem to confuse Mills role in the Isiah Era.
Why are you offended by this?

Not going to catalog the mistakes Mills made as an exec, before and after the lawsuit. The one where he was found guilty of enabling bad behavior, like Isiah. Found a way back to MSG, like Isiah.

Ill just say that Steve Mills has absolutely no business talking about the past failures of the NY Knicks without using "we". None whatsoever.

Cant believe anyone would even try to suggest that Steve Mills didnt make a single mistake as an exec worth owning up to. Cultish.

Never said he was not without fault. I do know enough that in Corp. America you sometimes have to own decisions made by your boss and implement. You might voice that think its a good idea. As for Isiah, do you know at all Mills did not suggest to Dolan to not extend him, or even contest Anucha in court. Just pay her and be done with it? Of course not. Neither do I. But I do no the one constant thru the years of bad decisions was not the legions of coach's, GM's or presidents, it was Dolan.
In his tenure The Mills Era starts with the exit of Phil. Simple really. This is his era good, bad or indifferent. This is his coach, Knox is his pick. Frank was on Phil and Gaines. "Frankly", im fine with Ntilinka and his upside. Jeff was given a solid chance.
Going forward Frank is on Mills because he has not traded him (yet?)after a full season.
No cult, just logic. If you have solid facts please include them. I can't verify exactly all of Mills input or not, but in the absence of that it falls on the man in charge. Isiah was team president. Phil was team president. Mills was the GM under him but we all know who drove the decisions. Mills got the gig he signed up for when Dolan recruited him back. He has his GM and coach now.

Isiah was "his guy". Will take Magic's word over Isiah about how he got hired. You might not be saying that Mills didnt make any mistakes. Thats what Mills is saying when he discusses the past as a witness, and not a participant. In for a penny, in for a pound in this situation IMO. Too many years with the franchise.

Im all for not bringing up the past, the present looks a lot better. At the same time, I dont like hearing someone who has been with this organization for many years, acting like he wasnt part of the problem at times. Dont need to be an insider to see that.

Otherwise Mills should avoid answering questions about the past, and say he wants to focus on the future. Better that than trying to rewrite history.

Nalod wrote:Nope. You keep bringing it up. You want him to take blame in the place you can't assign it. Dolan clearly was enthralled with Isiah. Dolan was the boss. Magic didn't hire Isiah. Dolan did. I don't know how culpable Mills was, but I'm not making **** up about him. Prove me wrong.

Easy Peasy. Mills was tasked with finding an exec who could lead a storied franchise into the future. Mills chose someone who had not been a consensus builder in Toronto, or a team player. Quite the contrary. Tried to force out the owner I believe.

Isiah also drove a 50 year old Bball league, a feeder system into the NBA, into the ground.

This is who Mills decided to put in Dolan's orbit. Nothing you say negates that fact. Thats just one bad decision. Not going to go into the others.

Sorry, "I dont know nothing, I just work here" isnt a valid excuse for top execs. Not after decades with the organization. Nope.

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knicks1248 wrote:live now perrry mills fiz

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Thx for posting. Likable guys. Mills is a bit stiff but these three are a welcome change.

If he wants to talk about the past (at all) - then take some responsibility for some part of the **** show.

Hopefully he made the right move with Perry who's moves I agree with so far - I trust Perry when he says he is going to be patient.